Our golden years.

Davey · Post by **Davey** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:20 am

professor ganson wrote:Will you still want to play even if you really suck?

We'll just need old-timer's brackets on the hi score board.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:27 am

BulletMagnet wrote:
Nemo wrote:Why is it the people without cars worry about oil? jklol
'Cuz if any of us who more "directly" depend on it ever thought about it too much, we'd probably end up unable to get up in the morning, heh heh.

Outside my obvious low blow at Rob, I do really have to wonder why people who don't depend on it, actually worry about it. If it were me, I'd feel emancipated. And if you're a person who can't avoid dependence, you can minimize it with things like hybrids and other forms of "smarter" transportation. Sure you can control what other people do, but you can control what you do. However, there truly there is no real dependence, it's just a matter of convenience that people don't want to give up. I passed a nice bicycle shop on the way home from work today.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:37 am

That's easy enought to say (and I don't drive, myself), but commuting to/from work has little to do with everybody's dependence on oil.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:05 am

Nemo wrote: I do really have to wonder why people who don't depend on it, actually worry about it.

Oil independence: that's how I got this computer and dinner from the grocery store. Wait, no. Educate yourself, Nemo. Read that brochure, it has pictures.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:11 am

I just think it will be scary to hear '80's bands and rap music being played in nursing homes 50 years from now!

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:21 am

No one will hear in a post-ipod world, don't worry.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:26 am

Read that brochure, it has pictures.

It's true though Nemo, do you think at all? Petrochemicals, the country's entire infrastructure, etc. Oil crash will affect more than your ability to drive to work.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:09 am

Neon wrote:
Read that brochure, it has pictures.

It's true though Nemo, do you think at all? Petrochemicals, the country's entire infrastructure, etc. Oil crash will affect more than your ability to drive to work.

the reason the US seems so dependant on oil is you guys get it so goddamn cheap over there.
dont worry there are plenty of renewable fuels once oil runs out.

over here all busses run on natural gas for example, its starting to take over in normal cars aswell.. as are fuelcells and all kinds of crap.. this kind of developement has been held back by oil companies for many years (and im sure theyre still struggeling) but now oil is starting to get so expensive here in europe that we have no alternative if we want to sustain the automotive industry...

i work for a company making engines for ships and powerplants and pretty much all our products (sinca about 5-6yrs ago) are powered by natural gas aswell.. i dont think oil running out is going to affect our lives in any significant way.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:57 pm

sven666 wrote:
Neon wrote:
Read that brochure, it has pictures.

It's true though Nemo, do you think at all? Petrochemicals, the country's entire infrastructure, etc. Oil crash will affect more than your ability to drive to work.
the reason the US seems so dependant on oil is you guys get it so goddamn cheap over there.
dont worry there are plenty of renewable fuels once oil runs out.

over here all busses run on natural gas for example, its starting to take over in normal cars aswell.. as are fuelcells and all kinds of crap.. this kind of developement has been held back by oil companies for many years (and im sure theyre still struggeling) but now oil is starting to get so expensive here in europe that we have no alternative if we want to sustain the automotive industry...

i work for a company making engines for ships and powerplants and pretty much all our products (sinca about 5-6yrs ago) are powered by natural gas aswell.. i dont think oil running out is going to affect our lives in any significant way.

A few weeks ago, I saw a piece on ABC World News about these high school kids over here who BUILT a car that runs on completely clean fuel-HIGH SCHOOL KIDS! But the oil industry has WAY to much power here, which is why cars like that will probably never be mass-produced, and neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are going to do a darn thing about it.

At any rate, getting older is not something I'd care to think about right now, since my 60-year old mom is still having medical problems almost a month after she had pnuemonia.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:11 pm

Rob wrote:
Nemo wrote: I do really have to wonder why people who don't depend on it, actually worry about it.
Oil independence: that's how I got this computer and dinner from the grocery store. Wait, no. Educate yourself, Nemo. Read that brochure, it has pictures.

The thing is, I don't get your beef. You're upset because people are wasting oil (not just using it), no? I mean you already made an entire topic about this with the crux of it being about the ills of the automobile industry. But if your beef is simply that oil is limited and will eventually run out because we use it, then good job on understanding the elementary concept of "limited resources". Why not just jump off a bridge now and save yourself the trouble of having to encounter this dire situation.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:17 pm

I get dibs on ruling Bartertown.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:34 pm

Nemo wrote:The thing is, I don't get your beef. You're upset because people are wasting oil (not just using it), no? I mean you already made an entire topic about this with the crux of it being about the ills of the automobile industry.

I never said or implied that I was upset or worried. I think that is called projecting. I also didn't make a topic about the "ills of the automobile industry." It was about peak oil doomsaying.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:11 am

Rob wrote:
Nemo wrote:The thing is, I don't get your beef. You're upset because people are wasting oil (not just using it), no? I mean you already made an entire topic about this with the crux of it being about the ills of the automobile industry.
I never said or implied that I was upset or worried. I think that is called projecting. I also didn't make a topic about the "ills of the automobile industry." It was about peak oil doomsaying.

Unfortunately, talk about oil always begins and ends with talk of automobiles, as did your topic, which is why I said "crux". And for someone that is claiming to have no emotional attachment, you sure talk a lot about the issue. But I realize you're just trying to inform people, which would be great if we hadn't learned this in the 3rd grade. Your whole agenda just went from naive but mildly admirable to pointless.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:43 am

talk about oil always begins and ends with talk of automobiles

Exhibit B in not getting it.

You're like... a collector who doesn't like to accumulate things! That would be A if you recall.

Zigfried the Trizealot · Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:50 am

Some collectors don't like to accumulate things.

//Zig

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:54 am

They must be tearing themselves apart. Sounds self-destructive.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:09 am

Depends on how you decipher the term "accumulate". I hear there's a nice place you can live with 3 walls, a door, a bed, and a toilet, perfect for the accumulaphobic, plus rent is free. Just go kill the next person you see driving an SUV, and you're in there like swimwear.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:02 am

Nemo wrote:Depends on how you decipher the term "accumulate".

It's OK to admit it was dumb, really.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:19 am

Rob wrote:
Nemo wrote:Depends on how you decipher the term "accumulate".
It's OK to admit it was dumb, really.

The only problem is it really wasn't dumb. Words are merely symbols and we as human decipher symbols differently. Is there any definitive amount for what yields accumulation? Of course not. Is 49 okay, but not 50? Technically anything more than 1 is accumulation.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:33 am

Here's a good resource for deciphering the English language.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:54 am

Damn. You sure have dimmed all my hopes about getting old. We're not even 40, and we're already bickering like a bunch of bitter codgers.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:47 am

You call this bickering? Bah! You don't know how GOOD you have it! Why, back in my day, we had to bicker for 12 hours straight, in the snow, no breaks for inhaling! And you know what? We LIKED it, dadgum it!

UnscathedFlyingObject · Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:27 am

You old fellas make me sick with your old fellas talk.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:32 pm

UFO - "old fellas"? Don't you know, life begins at 40?

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:40 pm

sven666 wrote:i work for a company making engines for ships and powerplants and pretty much all our products (sinca about 5-6yrs ago) are powered by natural gas aswell.. i dont think oil running out is going to affect our lives in any significant way.

With all those PCBs you got, I thought you are running an acrade...

It is quite a surprice to know you are not an acrade owner.

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:53 pm

I just got my dad a Pacman plug-n-play TV game for his 66th birthday. And he loves it! He was 40 when that game came out in the arcades and he played it a lot at the bowling alley back then. I can even remember him buying it for me & my sister's Atari 2600 so he could play it at home. So I suppose that this is proof that you never get too old for gaming.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:24 pm

I just got back from getting the first haircut I've had in about 2 years. There were quite a bit of grey hairs in that pile on my lap! ...guess I'd better get used to it.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:26 pm

sven666 wrote:
i work for a company making engines for ships and powerplants and pretty much all our products (sinca about 5-6yrs ago) are powered by natural gas aswell.. i dont think oil running out is going to affect our lives in any significant way.

You do realize that we use oil for more than powering engines, right?
Without oil many common materials cannot be made. Like say, plastics. Look around and note how many things have some plastic in them. Now imagine you couldn't make anymore plastic.

There are some initial efforts at making biochemical based plastics, however.

Not to mention the issue of where your natural gas comes from...

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:59 pm

Hello? Recycling?

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:02 pm

howmuchkeefe wrote:I just got back from getting the first haircut I've had in about 2 years. There were quite a bit of grey hairs in that pile on my lap! ...guess I'd better get used to it.

I just wish that loosing weight was as easy as dying your hair.

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