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Checked out the cool prologue scene titled "Last Supper" of the crew just before they are to go under for cryo-sleep stasis in the upcoming Alien Covenant sci-fi/horror flick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ0Rx4aqWr0 It clocks at 4 minutes and 29 seconds in it's entirety courtesy of 20th Century Fox. Is slated for a May 2017 theatrical release -- not too far, indeed.

Once again, we see the very detailed set pieces and background scenery/props that's reminescent of Alien & Prometheus -- looks awesome. Another return appearance of a familiar "synthetic" android character (same make & model) from the likes of Weyland-Yutani conglomerate (aka "The Company") that was shown in Prometheus. "Building Better Worlds" is Weyland-Yutani's trademarked slogan -- it's a given, folks.

What's fascinating about those emergency lifeboat ships like that shown at the end in Alien is, a single person can remain in cryo-sleep stasis indefinitely until proper help arrives (could be out there drifting for centuries in the vast emptiness of the cosmos if no help arrives at all). That is a strong possibility, especially if one is drifting in an unexplored region of the galaxy (unless Weyland-Yutani has got most of the galaxy mapped out/charted as far as space exploration and mining business goes {not to mention their bio-weapons branch/division} -- it's business as usual for them).

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Holy crap, that was fucking terrible. Zero effort for image framing and cinematography, just give Best Boy Grip a mobile phone after a couple of Long Island Ice Teas and tell him to go nuts. Awful casting, shocking dialogue...

Hands up who's looking forward to this? :lol:
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Skykid wrote:Hands up who's looking forward to this? :lol:
Kenny Powers in space? I'm sold :lol:
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This has 'modern Hollywood horror' written all over it. A bunch of hip unlikeable youngsters having the time of their lives when suddenly oh noes! The alien attacks and slaughters almost everyone! I don't see why they have to go the lengths of making the first 30 minutes as hopeful and fun as possible only to contrast it with the slaughterfest everyone who hasn't lived under a rock knows will come. The whole thing is inappropriately shot like a fucking sitcom, it makes me feel like I'm watching The Office but with no idea of what I'm supposed to be looking at. It might as well be a sitcom in its later seasons considering everyone already has a girlfriend/boyfriend. And of course there's a not!chestburster fanservice moment to ensure the audience that the source material is treated with the utmost respect. Why the hell is the main character looking woman trying so much to look like Sigourney Weaver anyways?
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I honestly was not sure if what i was watching was for real or not for a while there :?
James Franco as the captain? A cowboy hatted Danny McBride as the "pilot"? David performing a parody of the original chestburster scene. A pair gay men wrestling on the dinner table and that lady that plays Daniels, Katherine Waterston . . . how fucking annoying is she?!
Scott, in my humble opinion, hates film. Is there any other explanation for his constant, gross decline. I mean just look at how this is shot. This is Scott 2017? He is not even turning up to set anymore, judging by this.
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I'm not homophobic. I swear I'm not.
What pisses me off, though, is when movies (or rather, media in general) present them like this.
"HEY LOOK GUYSSS! WE'RE GAY! Can't you see? We're the only ones who've been hugging for the entire run of the trailer, and we kissed each other when we arm wrestled! I *smack* still *smack* love *smack* you *smack*!"
If you want to turn homosexuality into a normal thing - and there's no problem with that - don't make the inclusion of a gay couple seem like the biggest thing you've ever done in your entire career.
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Zen wrote:Katherine Waterston . . . how fucking annoying is she?!
Very - and shit too. I thought she was just the woman who cried a lot when Steve Jobs told her to get lost.

This entire scene could be a wonderful parody ruse where Scott has purposely and comically created something as shit as possible so that we all shake our heads in disbelief only then to release the film with an entirely different cast, completely different, professional tone, and an accurate hard sci-fi atmosphere.

Wishful thinking.
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It was better than the trailer... :-/
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GaijinPunch wrote:It was better than the trailer... :-/
Didn't know there was a trailer. Just watched it.

Awful. Looks like a subpar Prometheus.
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AxelMill wrote:If you want to turn homosexuality into a normal thing - and there's no problem with that - don't make the inclusion of a gay couple seem like the biggest thing you've ever done in your entire career.
It's not just that, the entire scene is thoroughly phony. Everyone's all WE'RE ALL SUPER BEST FRIENDS HAVING FUN WHEEE :D :D :D to the point that they're clearly full of it. Human beings don't act like that, even when drinking and playing card games.

I get the entire point of these movies is to empathize with the monster and root for its success, but they're essentially saturday morning cartoons these days at best. A hollow pantomime of the human condition - Hollywood.
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Skykid wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:It was better than the trailer... :-/
Didn't know there was a trailer. Just watched it.

Awful. Looks like a subpar Prometheus.
There was talk about it somewhere -- probably the movies thread? I think I actually started it. It's really, really bad trailer, and any hope I had for this film being a proper sequel and salvaging ANYTHING from Prometheus is gone. Noomi Rapace is actually cast, so my guess is she shows up in the last scene to somehow tie the two together, a la the proto-type xenomorph at the end of Prometheus.

It and Ghost in the Shell I'm seriously debating not seeing in the theater b/c I don't think these films should be fed... even though I know they'll keep being made.
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I'm just here for the trainwreck. I went into Prometheus with childishly high hopes, and was promptly brutalised by its vile union of rank slasher flick idiocy and aggressively vacuous navel gazing.

"Yeahhh man like, Space Jesus whoaaa" Get fucked! ಠ_ಠ

*a "scientist" removes helmet, gulps down lungfulls of alien atmosphere and god knows what else* "WOO-HOOO!" What in the... get Galaxy AIDS you smarmy fuckwit. Oh wait, he actually did. :O Damn, I'm sorry bro. SpaceJesu was just a Blue Jason though, you didn't miss much.

This is looking just as bad, but at least seems without pretense, so I can't be too mad. What a world we live in. PUT A FUCKING HELMET ON YOU CLUELESS BELL-ENDS. *alien spore flies in random redshirt's lughole* Oh never mind. Wait chum, don't peer into that hideous, ominously unfolding egg! At least not with a torch! Ohhh for fuck's sake.

This series needed to move on from the "uninformed space friends encounter bad alien shit, cue bloodbath" a quarter-century ago. Never mind. Cosmic horror, wazzat? We gotta get Abrahamic all up in here. Last supper, lmao! Geddit?!
Skykid wrote:This entire scene could be a wonderful parody ruse where Scott has purposely and comically created something as shit as possible so that we all shake our heads in disbelief only then to release the film with an entirely different cast, completely different, professional tone, and an accurate hard sci-fi atmosphere.

Wishful thinking.
It wouldn't restore my faith in Scott, but I think it'd be cute if this and the trailer both were some sort of in-universe spoofs - bad films within a bad film.

I thought the two wrestling guys were just palling about, lmao. :mrgreen: My gaydar's not great!
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Just like the Terminator franchise, the people that are allowed to make sequels/prequels don't know what the audience wants. If like Scott you made the original its obvious he doesn't know what made it good in the first place. These big movies will sell even if they are shit so the studios know that.

A force awakens, the trailer was 10/10. I'd give the movie 5/10. So trailers are not a good measure of the final product (unless its Ghostbusters and the new Turtles film).

This Covenant trailer was more like a "get to know the characters" kinda thing. It should be more sterile like the crew of "Sunshine" though. Agreed about the camera work. I'm pretty good freehand I can keep the picture still. In the clips shown it was almost like they exaggerated movement to prove its freehand. I think its a bad choice myself. Saying that though, I feel these clips were probably filmed on phones. Surely cannot be like that the whole way through.
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neorichieb1971 wrote: This Covenant trailer was more like a "get to know the characters" kinda thing. It should be more sterile like the crew of "Sunshine" though. Agreed about the camera work. I'm pretty good freehand I can keep the picture still. In the clips shown it was almost like they exaggerated movement to prove its freehand. I think its a bad choice myself. Saying that though, I feel these clips were probably filmed on phones. Surely cannot be like that the whole way through.
My theory is that they went for a shaky cam to emulate the feeling of being on a moving spaceship, though it just ends up being seasickness-inducing.
Four and a half minutes is barely enough to get to know an entire cast of characters of that size, most of them feel interchangeable in terms of personality because of how the is dialogue written as most characters do not come off as anything but shallow and two-dimensional. You could just change the background to some party in a modern household and slap some rich teenager clothes on everyone to see how much this movie differs from other Hollywood horror schlock. There sure as hell isn't anything unique or promising about the movie gauging from the promo footage.
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Do you even believe the proud xenomorphs would dirty their fangs with that bunch of happy pbr drinkers?
Let's not even talk about laying eggs in their flabby bellies. Yuck.
No but seriously, look at them: you can't call that a spaceship crew, they even fail at beards.
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With our first gay couple in space™ making headlines, I'm offended they didn't take the opportunity to upend the Black Guy Dies First (in the trailer anyway) stereotype and promote diversity by casting Twisted G. He wouldn't get distracted by some broad only to be taken out like a little bitch! :O You lyin', xenomorph! You know you ain't lost! *pulse rifle* *squeee*
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BIL wrote:first gay couple in space™
WRONG.

C3PO and R2D2.

Or if you're Milo Yianopolis:

Dr. Smith and Will Robinson.
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They're so in love though. What a wonderful demonstration of gay affection. While everyone else is talking, lets just arm wrestle over here and then pounce on each other as soon as one person wins. While the conversation continues, we can roll over on the table, loosen our belts, and fuck each other up the ass while giggling and calling each other pet names. The audience MUST KNOW this is what progressive gay space love looks like.

After Prometheus I was sure Scott was going to address the criticism and not do a Lucas. Sadly he's throwing another set of poorly cast, badly written, unbelievable cardboard characters at us - all of whom demonstrate an inexplicable void of professionalism despite the gravity of their mission.

Really, would you send that bunch of fucktards and those two idiot gay guys to colonise a planet? Weyland Yutani must enjoy burning money, unless...

They're meant to be alien fodder. Feeding time!
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oh cmon gays... i mean guys, at least we'll have the last laugh when they all die agonizing horrible death. too bad Katherine Waterston will prolly survive
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It's not like they're making Priscilla Queen of LV-426 either, ok the insistance in that scene is stupid because it's clearly intended to highlight the display of them being gays "do you see it audience!? got it that they're gay!?", but as always people go insane with every (yet extremely rare) moment they see men do gay things in a movie. After over a hundred years of straight couples kissing like they're furiously licking giant ice cream cones melting fast af (the Hollywood face-eating kiss I guess) don't tell me part of the issue there isn't simply "oh yuck gays".

ED: ok maybe an Alien-verse film isn't the best place to insert a 'deal with it 21st century arses' moment, but the real problem is not the forced display of the gay couple, rather that in the scene everyone gives gay vibes, the whole crew, like they're all Y generation enjoying spaceship travel and they don't deserve it.
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I seriously didn't get it, I thought they were just being bros. >_>

Anyway, I don't see the point. Beyond tokenism, anyway. Reminds me of Ken Penders' stirring revelation that Rotor from the Sonic comics is gay. Cartoon walrus builds gadgets, cartoon spaceman gets slaughtered by aliens, where does sexuality come into either's line of work?
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Also rather surprised nobody facepalmed at the lameness of the choking scene: a pitiful attempt at comedy in a fanchise where comedy doesn't belong in the first place.
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Although I'm 110% resigned to this ending poorly, that sort of self-referentialism actually would bother me. Not just the frying-pan-to-face obviousness (FOODS NOT THAT BAD MIRITE *WINK WINK*), but the marginally subtler presence of ROBOFRIEND.

"I've got your back." *everyone chuckles* *icy smile*

OMG! Is he secretly a baddie like Ash from Alien?! :O But maybe... he's actually a goodie, like Bishop from Aliens!! :O

HOW ABOUT SOMETHING NEW, YOU GERIATRIC OLD FUCKER (・`W´・)

I dislike nostalgising for its own sake. And familiarity is the natural enemy of horror. Enough telegraphing FFS. But I know this ain't the horror business anymore. 3:

If this is all misdirection for the sake of marketing I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Somebody dub Julian Clary over an Alien.
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Skykid wrote:They're so in love though. What a wonderful demonstration of gay affection.
You can't have characters who just happen to be gay; their being gay has to be their only defining personality trait and you have to parade them out like some kind of fascinating animals at a zoo! Arm wrestling then kissing and groping each other in front of work colleagues, how *progressive*!

Speaking as someone who fucks men in the ass: that scene was pretty gay. Cringy, without any of the redeeming campiness or true manliness of Mr. Gold and Mr. Silver.

Here's rooting for the xenomorphs.
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^ Gold & Silver FTW
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Eeeeee.

Honestly Alien 3 killed all my carecats for the franchise and nothing short of Alien 3: The Newtening can fix that, so I didn't hate Prometheus as much as some people did. It was packed full of a bunch of risible stupid nonsense that will last us decades to come, which was more than the nothing I expected going in. (That's similar to the Star Wars prequels!)

Still... can we not have the horseshoe spaceship every single christfoolin' time? Pliz?

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I was iffy about this sequel, but now that we've got an alien rendered in terrible CGI in full sunlight headbutting the windshield of a space truck I am sold!
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That second trailer has me shaking my head again at Katherine Waterston. It gives me no pleasure to say it but that face and manner are fucking punchable :(
And her "acting"? God almighty! Did not make sense until I read that "Oscar-nominated American actor" Sam Waterston is her father. Who needs ability when you have nepotism.
mnneurope wrote:too bad Katherine Waterston will prolly survive
Don't you just know it. She is going to be the sole human survivor "emoting" right out of the screen at you in the end.
Skykid wrote:unbelievable cardboard characters at us - all of whom demonstrate an inexplicable void of professionalism despite the gravity of their mission.
Exactly. All they are short, is Mappy McMapperson from Prometheus (2012) to "help" get them lost. "This crew is made up of couples" . . . . barf.
Skykid has this one nailed; they are there to die for our entertainment. Perhaps as part of some diabolical plan by David ? Its the only way I can take this farce seriously.
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