Questions that do not deserve a thread

[vol.2]

How about hooking a Dreamcast to a TV without a VGA input? Would a Toro box be part of the answer?

You can just buy a regular cable if you don't need VGA. The toro is a premium solution that allows switchable outputs and can add scan lines. If you are asking because you want to run 480p through RGB, then yes, toro does that. If you have a display that can do 480p, and it has an RGB input. The other situation is that you have a display with component inputs. That would require an RGB to component conversion.

[Stevens]

Thanks vol.2

I currently have a tv with a VGA input and a Hanzo. Just more of a curiosity since I know one day I won't have this tv anymore and want as much information as I can get.

[atheistgod1999]

Any good places to get high-quality RGB SCART cables other than retro_console_accessories? She barely ever has any for sale.

[vol.2]

You know this place?
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/ind ... ommon/home

[NormalFish]

How would folks go about modding a mad catz TE for 360/PS3 to work on a PS2?

MC Cthulhu seems to be out of production, as are most of the other similar boards. I know I could use a PS1/2 controller PCB but I'm struggling to find nice diagrams/tutorials for how to do that and I'm not super confident in my ability to not incinerate a contact.

[headlesshobbs]

Are there any type of vga cables or filters that can be used to keep high contrast levels from crushing out detail?

[vol.2]

Are there any type of vga cables or filters that can be used to keep high contrast levels from crushing out detail?

I am not 100% sure what you want, but there are extron rgb interfaces that have level and peak controls on them. This may help to fine tune your picture. Be aware that they don't do scan conversion, so they won't allow you to play a VGA signal on a TV unless it's a newer flat screen that can accept an actual VGA input.

[copy]

Any good places to get high-quality RGB SCART cables other than retro_console_accessories? She barely ever has any for sale.

She puts up a limited quantity for sale each day. If you check her store page in the morning, you'll be able to buy what you need.

[headlesshobbs]

Are there any type of vga cables or filters that can be used to keep high contrast levels from crushing out detail?

I am not 100% sure what you want, but there are extron rgb interfaces that have level and peak controls on them. This may help to fine tune your picture. Be aware that they don't do scan conversion, so they won't allow you to play a VGA signal on a TV unless it's a newer flat screen that can accept an actual VGA input.

The ossc does fine for that.

My main issue is what mainly causes contrast to bloom out of control over most vga to hdmi converters. As a test I ran my slg3000 with some slight interlacing and somehow it managed to bring down said bloom level to the point where it'd be nonexistent while correcting the color level, but it's not a viable solution with all the flicker going on. I had a thought that maybe what the signal needs is either something that's low-pass, or maybe some resistors that help to dampen the levels a bit in order to make it something most of these converters can handle. I didn't think I'd need another whole piece of equipment like an extron as a fix when I figure just a simple mod could do it.

That's why I'm wondering if there's anything like this that somebody already sells on the market, or do I have to have one made?

[Fudoh]

The DC has out of speak voltage levels and usually requires adjustment on the display's end. If you're sure that you get lost details in areas with high white levels you need resistors in line with the RGB signals. If you don't want to mod your cable, you can use an Extron interface to achieve the same thing. The interface will usually normalize your levels already and on many interfaces you get additional peak level controls.

[paulb_nl]

If your Dreamcast cable outputs the wrong voltage levels causing white crush then you need a better cable.

[headlesshobbs]

If your Dreamcast cable outputs the wrong voltage levels causing white crush then you need a better cable.

Can you suggest any?

[paulb_nl]

The beharbros VGA boxes seem to get great reviews. Look here for more information http://retrorgb.com/dreamcast.html

[headlesshobbs]

The DC has out of speak voltage levels and usually requires adjustment on the display's end. If you're sure that you get lost details in areas with high white levels you need resistors in line with the RGB signals. If you don't want to mod your cable, you can use an Extron interface to achieve the same thing. The interface will usually normalize your levels already and on many interfaces you get additional peak level controls.

Would something like this work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extron-RGB-192- ... Swx2dYHNYZ

The beharbros VGA boxes seem to get great reviews. Look here for more information http://retrorgb.com/dreamcast.html

I'll have to look into that. Does it say anywhere on what resistors they're using if anything? Also since we have the ossc thread, I'm wondering if there's any posts on pairing these together?

Want to make another note that it's not just the Dreamcast that's doing this. I've tried a couple different cables between two pcs and ended up getting a good deal of contrast oversaturation as well. Like I said, this is a common vga to hdmi issue and I'm very doubtful it's only me who's going through this. The only thing I've seen that hasn't gone to butcher video quality was that cga/vga converter and I've got no plans on touching that again.

[Fudoh]

Would something like this work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Extron-RGB-192- ... Swx2dYHNYZ

the smaller ones (like this one) have no peak controls, but it will still normalize your levels.

What VGA box or cable are you using right now ? It seems weird that this gives you trouble beyond what's fixable on your display. The beharbros VGA boxes still have too high signal levels.

[mrmop520]

Came into 2 JVC 16-SDU monitors (as well as a pvm20md4!) this week. I'm wondering if anyone has access to a service manual for this jvc model, or one similar to it. I was able to get into the service menu, but the values to change were not labeled (D01 D02 rather than H size and H phase etc). Geometry on them was pretty decent just one needs a small trapezoid fix, and other could use a bit of tinkering.

[Einzelherz]

Came into 2 JVC 16-SDU monitors (as well as a pvm20md4!) this week. I'm wondering if anyone has access to a service manual for this jvc model, or one similar to it. I was able to get into the service menu, but the values to change were not labeled (D01 D02 rather than H size and H phase etc). Geometry on them was pretty decent just one needs a small trapezoid fix, and other could use a bit of tinkering.

Unless you have a colorimeter I wouldn't mess with the lower level settings much. I have a newer model and was able to use a TM-A101G manual I found online. If you can't locate it I can upload later.

[mrmop520]

Ok cool found that service manual. Seems to be a bit different with the numbering on the service menu, but still useful! Yeah I'm only messing with simple resizing / centering commands and a few geometry commands to get the corners and edges a bit more even.

[paulb_nl]

Want to make another note that it's not just the Dreamcast that's doing this. I've tried a couple different cables between two pcs and ended up getting a good deal of contrast oversaturation as well. Like I said, this is a common vga to hdmi issue and I'm very doubtful it's only me who's going through this. The only thing I've seen that hasn't gone to butcher video quality was that cga/vga converter and I've got no plans on touching that again.

If you are seeing this issue with other devices besides the Dreamcast then there must be something else going on. I have not seen anyone else in the OSSC thread mention VGA being too bright/white crush. Even Marqs himself used a kuro to test the Dreamcast with the OSSC.

Have you tried different hdmi displays?

[headlesshobbs]

Sorry for the late reply.

I've done a lot of testing with a few vga to hdmi converters between my dreamcast/pc and I'm coming up with the same results in contrast or luminance overpowering the picture. Even with some cables that have that filter built in it doesn't matter any. If Marq hasn't tested with just a standard vga box, then he's more then likely got to be missing something, because those settings he added in the last firmware aren't doing hardly anything to address the issue. This is mostly what's "coming into" the ossc, rather then what he can manipulate going through the hdmi conversion.



~Fudoh

I'm using Madness Gameware and Retrobit (currently for 15khz output)

Can you do me a favor and remind Marqs to do his testing on both the official vga box or from a 3rd party? Garo and Kuro is pretty much cheating this as he's already got luminance adjustment for those devices, so that's not at all an accurate example. If he finds out it's something he can't adjust himself, then we really do need to consider that external solution I'm bringing up. Btw what type of value for the resistors would be most suitable? I was thinking something above 75 ohms would do it, but it might end up being overkill on my part. Afterall, I just barely touched the nob on my SLG and the bloom came right out.

[Fudoh]

Btw what type of value for the resistors would be most suitable?

if you have no means of measuring the levels beforehand I would simply use potentiometers (variable resistors). Add one to each color channel and give it a try.

[Xyga]

What's the (SNES) game right at the beginning of that video please ?

EDIT: scratch that I've found it is Secret of Evermore.

http://youtu.be/aX8bX9YdDEY
snap:
- snip - no use

[tomwhite2004]

^ Secret of Evermore

[Xyga]

oops just at the same time ^^

thanks anyway

[Megamew28]

Guys, I have a Sony PVM 1442QM and I bought an RGB adapter. It's got RGB and Composite Sync BNC cables, along with the phono audio ones. When I tried to connect my PlayStation 2 to it (via RGB Scart) the signal was messed up. It has some horizontal lines that go up slowly and get thicker or thinner too when the drive is reading a game. It also lacks the white color. The Scart cable i'm using is a generic one. Maybe I need a specific one, but I don't really know what cable do I need.

It's fine when I connect it to a DVD Recorder using it as passthrough, but it just doesn't look good when I connect it directly into the PVM.

This is how it looks when using the PS2 Scart cable through the adapter:

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(The red tint in the pic above is because of my camera)

As you can see, there is no white at all, just some really thin lines at the edges. (The best example is visible in the eyes of the character) You can also see that there is some kind of crosstalk in the yellow letters too. (Bad quality cable?)

I think it may be a problem with the C-SYNC. Either from the PlayStation 2 or the Scart cable. AFAIK there are Scart cables for PlayStation made for its use with a PVM monitor, but I don't know if they would work in a PlayStation 2. I need some advice on the type of cable that I need.

[Ikaruga11]

1. Is it possible to jailbreak and install CFW on a PS3 Slim with Version 3.81 firmware?

2. Any advantages or disadvantages of having a Japanese PS3 over an American PS3?

3. Any difference in frame rate between the Fat, Slim and SuperSlim?

4. Which system makes the least amount of noise and heat: the Fat, Slim or SuperSlim?

5. Can I play US DVDs on a Japanese PS3? If I hack it, can I?

6. Does the PS3 have a better HDMI or Component output? Can it do RGB in 1080p?

7. Picture quality wise, is it better to play a PS3 on a BVM via HDMI (digital to analog) or Component (analog; no conversion)?

8. Is it true that older PS3 models have better component output?

[Fudoh]

Which system makes the least amount of noise and heat: the Fat, Slim or SuperSlim?

Slim. Fat has louder fans and SuperSlim has a louder drive. Downloads might be a better on a SuperSlim.

Does the PS3 have a better HDMI or Component output? Can it do RGB in 1080p?

HDMI looks better. You can get 1080p RGB 4:4:4, yes.

Picture quality wise, is it better to play a PS3 on a BVM via HDMI (digital to analog) or Component (analog; no conversion)?

HDMI converted to component is visibly better.

[ZellSF]

Which system makes the least amount of noise and heat: the Fat, Slim or SuperSlim?

Slim. Fat has louder fans and SuperSlim has a louder drive. Downloads might be a better on a SuperSlim.

This isn't universal. Some slims have really loud disc drives. I would prefer the noise level of my original fat PS3 to the slim I have now... if only it didn't die.

Best to go the safe option of a slim that's at 3.55 or less and mod it to load games from HDD, so you can cut out disc noise factor entirely.

[bobrocks95]

Does Retro Console Accessories still offer coax cables? Has anyone used them, and if so, do they eliminate any audio buzzing?

As far as I can tell the only way to eliminate all buzzing is to wire in audio connectors with their own separate ground- has anyone found success with other methods?

[citrus3000psi]

1. Is it possible to jailbreak and install CFW on a PS3 Slim with Version 3.81 firmware?

You will have to downgrade the console to 3.55 using a hardware method such has the E3 flasher, teensy etc.

2. Any advantages or disadvantages of having a Japanese PS3 over an American PS3?

Japaneses ps3 consoles have swapped X / O buttons.

3. Any difference in frame rate between the Fat, Slim and SuperSlim?

I've heard of there being more frame drops in fat's. I think the slim 250X made before Nov 2010 is the best model to get.

5. Can I play US DVDs on a Japanese PS3? If I hack it, can I?

Yes