OSSC (DIY video digitizer & scandoubler)

[blizzz]

The SC-500N1 and PEXHDCAP use the same driver, since they are the same card. I was using driver version v1.1.0.126 (I think) when I recorded from the OSSC and didn't have to set any special settings. The only issue I had was with the digital sound add-on, which would cause massive frame drops, so I had to record from analog audio.

[lolitsevan]

Thanks man, I ended up getting it working(I was being dumb) but the one thing I noticed is it took a long time to sync or something, almost 30 seconds to get an image to show up from when I start the capture. You might be able to cut that down by playing with settings on the remote or something but I couldn't make it consistent. It's a very, very small 'problem' with the ossc, if you can even call it that, and everything else so far is blowing me away. It looks even better than I expected, and I'm super psyched that I got one. I don't remember what issues people were having with the SNES but so far I've had 0 problems on the console end.

[Gnomenthusiast]

As Promised, I returned with more photos.

















I would have tried more games, but when they look as good as they do on this setup, it's hard not to just keep playing!

[Simon Belmont]

Just received my OSSC and I can't get a picture at all? It just says resolution is not supported on both my PC Engine rgb scart and Neo Geo mvs using Supergun Max Strike scart?

My TV is a Samsung ue50ku6000 4KTV

I'm so disappointed

The crappy scart to hdmi works fine, but not a £150 one?

Edit: No matter what I do I can't get a picture at all

[Elrinth]

Just received my OSSC and I can't get a picture at all? It just says resolution is not supported on both my PC Engine rgb scart and Neo Geo mvs using Supergun Max Strike scart?

My TV is a Samsung ue50ku6000 4KTV

I'm so disappointed

The crappy scart to hdmi works fine, but not a £150 one?

Edit: No matter what I do I can't get a picture at all

Make sure frame trippling is on.
Can you try frame trippling a SNES? I havne't personally tested the Pc-Engine with OSSC, but I don't think it should be a problem.

[Simon Belmont]

Just received my OSSC and I can't get a picture at all? It just says resolution is not supported on both my PC Engine rgb scart and Neo Geo mvs using Supergun Max Strike scart?

My TV is a Samsung ue50ku6000 4KTV

I'm so disappointed

The crappy scart to hdmi works fine, but not a £150 one?

Edit: No matter what I do I can't get a picture at all

Make sure frame trippling is on.
Can you try frame trippling a SNES? I havne't personally tested the Pc-Engine with OSSC, but I don't think it should be a problem.

Hello there

Frame tripping didn't work. I don't have a snes only a pc engine core 2 and a Neo Geo MVS using a supergun.

When I first turn on the OSSC I get this pic. test pattern I think? Put on RGB AVI 1. It shows syncing and light is green showing the Then not supported. On all 3 HDMI's too?





It shows this that it working, but no picture? (Sorry about pic it was hard for camera to focus)
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[neorichieb1971]

Some great pics guys.. Really impressed. Not impressed that a few individuals are having problems though.

Is it worth having a "recommended cable" piece in the OP?

I mean I don't know which cables work best with this OSSC or where to get the best cables from.

[NormalFish]

Some great pics guys.. Really impressed. Not impressed that a few individuals are having problems though.

Is it worth having a "recommended cable" piece in the OP?

I mean I don't know which cables work best with this OSSC or where to get the best cables from.

The not supported issues people are having are due to their displays. There's a growing amount of data on which displays are working, but obviously not every option has been tested. this is the nature of projects like this.

Also all of your posts read like concern trolling. Not sure if that's intended.

[marqs]

When I first turn on the OSSC I get this pic. test pattern I think? Put on RGB AVI 1. It shows syncing and light is green showing the Then not supported. On all 3 HDMI's too?
It shows this that it working, but no picture? (Sorry about pic it was hard for camera to focus)

Sounds like a faulty unit (test pattern is not 100% guarantee that actual sources work) - could you try out another display to rule out the tiny possibility that your TV is super-picky about refresh rate etc?

[Simon Belmont]

Some great pics guys.. Really impressed. Not impressed that a few individuals are having problems though.

Is it worth having a "recommended cable" piece in the OP?

I mean I don't know which cables work best with this OSSC or where to get the best cables from.

The not supported issues people are having are due to their displays. There's a growing amount of data on which displays are working, but obviously not every option has been tested. this is the nature of projects like this.

Also all of your posts read like concern trolling. Not sure if that's intended.

If it's down to my display then I might just sell the OSSC. Like I said ealier at least my crappy scart to hdmi upscaler works, just not as well as OSSC would.

[Simon Belmont]

When I first turn on the OSSC I get this pic. test pattern I think? Put on RGB AVI 1. It shows syncing and light is green showing the Then not supported. On all 3 HDMI's too?
It shows this that it working, but no picture? (Sorry about pic it was hard for camera to focus)

Sounds like a faulty unit (test pattern is not 100% guarantee that actual sources work) - could you try out another display to rule out the tiny possibility that your TV is super-picky about refresh rate etc?

Ok I'll try another

[blizzz]

Like I said ealier at least my crappy scart to hdmi upscaler works, just not as well as OSSC would.

Your cheap hdmi upscaler probably converts the video to 59.97 Hz or 60.00 Hz. The OSSC uses the same refresh rate as the console, which could lead to problems with overly picky devices. I remember that the BMI capture card has issues with stuff like this, but I haven't heard that TVs won't display slightly out-of-spec refresh rates.

[Simon Belmont]

Ok . It's not the OSSC. tried it on another tv and it worked the min I pushed the AVI 1. So it would seem it's my TV. I'm not going to buy another TV just for OSSC Might get another next year, but not now. Might have to think what to do next???

[marqs]

When I first turn on the OSSC I get this pic. test pattern I think? Put on RGB AVI 1. It shows syncing and light is green showing the Then not supported. On all 3 HDMI's too?
It shows this that it working, but no picture? (Sorry about pic it was hard for camera to focus)

Sounds like a faulty unit (test pattern is not 100% guarantee that actual sources work) - could you try out another display to rule out the tiny possibility that your TV is super-picky about refresh rate etc?

Also, is that 261p reading from PCE, and does it show LO=522 after pressing INFO on remote? Majority of 240p sources are 262/263 lines, and linedoubled output is then within +-1 scanlines of 480p spec which practically all displays accept. Along with somewhat off-spec refresh rate, Neo-Geo outputs 264 scanlines which can cause incompatibilities.

[Simon Belmont]

When I first turn on the OSSC I get this pic. test pattern I think? Put on RGB AVI 1. It shows syncing and light is green showing the Then not supported. On all 3 HDMI's too?
It shows this that it working, but no picture? (Sorry about pic it was hard for camera to focus)

Sounds like a faulty unit (test pattern is not 100% guarantee that actual sources work) - could you try out another display to rule out the tiny possibility that your TV is super-picky about refresh rate etc?

Also, is that 261p reading from PCE, and does it show LO=522 after pressing INFO on remote? Majority of 240p sources are 262/263 lines, and linedoubled output is then within +-1 scanlines of 480p spec which practically all displays accept. Along with somewhat off-spec refresh rate, Neo-Geo outputs 264 scanlines which can cause incompatibilities.

Yes that 261p is pc engine

[neorichieb1971]

Also all of your posts read like concern trolling. Not sure if that's intended.

Well, people only reply to say such things, instead of answering the questions I put forward. What do you expect?


edit -

I asked which SCART cables do you recommend for this device - No answer
A few posts back I asked if you need a HDMI attachment to make this work on HDTV's - No answer
I asked a question about availability on the next batch - Guess what - No answer.

[blizzz]

I asked which SCART cables do you recommend for this device

Any decent SCART cable that's wired for European SCART and carries RGB will work. If you're using sync on composite it should have good shielding. Same stuff as for the Framemeister.

A few posts back I asked if you need a HDMI attachment to make this work on HDTV's

No, you just need a DVI to HDMI adapter or cable. If you want to integrate audio into HDMI that's another story.

[Guspaz]

Maybe people don't reply because they don't have the answers?

1) Which SCART cable depends on what you're connecting to it. I use a Wookieewin BNC-to-SCART cable to connect the OSSC to the outputs of my PVM, but I had to get it custom ordered, because his normal cable is meant to go in the opposite direction. I had him reverse the sync direction, and remove the audio cables since the audio isn't going through my PVM.

2) Probably. Your HDTV likely doesn't have a DVI port, so you'd need a DVI-to-HDMI adapter. Make sure the DVI adapter is DVI-D, because the DVI socket on the OSSC does not have the analog pin holes, and a DVI-I or DVI-A adapter will not fit.

3) The plan was originally to have the next batch before Christmas, but that could have changed. On a random note, I would have liked mine to have transparent acrylic like earlier units did, since that looks nicer. Mine just had flat black acrylic, which doesn't look as nice. Also, the transparent one may have worked better with the remote?

[citrus3000psi]

I asked a question about availability on the next batch - Guess what - No answer.

Its already been said in this thread that you should expect the next batch in the first quarter of 2017.

[BuckoA51]

Technical support posts in the official forum please people, it's too difficult to keep track of them on here. If your question gets buried and missed on here that's not my fault.

Another batch of OSSC invites just went out. If you're number 1735 or under you should have one now. If not, get in touch.

There's now less than 20 units left, so this may well be the last lot of invites. There may be a small number of units in December but no significant quantity until the new year now.

Sounds like a faulty unit (test pattern is not 100% guarantee that actual sources work) - could you try out another display to rule out the tiny possibility that your TV is super-picky about refresh rate etc?

I already fully tested these last lot of OSSC (apart from JTAG) so it's more likely his TV unfortunately.

[Simon Belmont]

I already fully tested these last lot of OSSC (apart from JTAG) so it's more likely his TV unfortunately.

It is my TV. Bummer I'm either going to get a new TV or sell this unit?

[neorichieb1971]

Maybe people don't reply because they don't have the answers?

1) Which SCART cable depends on what you're connecting to it. I use a Wookieewin BNC-to-SCART cable to connect the OSSC to the outputs of my PVM, but I had to get it custom ordered, because his normal cable is meant to go in the opposite direction. I had him reverse the sync direction, and remove the audio cables since the audio isn't going through my PVM.

2) Probably. Your HDTV likely doesn't have a DVI port, so you'd need a DVI-to-HDMI adapter. Make sure the DVI adapter is DVI-D, because the DVI socket on the OSSC does not have the analog pin holes, and a DVI-I or DVI-A adapter will not fit.

3) The plan was originally to have the next batch before Christmas, but that could have changed. On a random note, I would have liked mine to have transparent acrylic like earlier units did, since that looks nicer. Mine just had flat black acrylic, which doesn't look as nice. Also, the transparent one may have worked better with the remote?

Thanks for all the answers


I'll pickup a DVI-D HDMI adapter first since I don't have one. For me 2nd batch seems more likely since unless I rev out my Credit card I won't recover for Xmas present spending. And without sounding harsh I hope these incompatibility issues are ironed out. A bit strange that some TV's are built with a wider spectrum of compatibility than others. I thought HDMI was a standard and all resolution and frequencies had to be a standard.

[BuckoA51]

Yes but OSSC isn't outputting standard signal. It can only line double/triple what it's fed in, if the TV won't handle that then there's not that much you can do.

It is my TV. Bummer I'm either going to get a new TV or sell this unit?

You have the option of returning it, distance selling act and all that.

[Simon Belmont]

Yes but OSSC isn't outputting standard signal. It can only line double/triple what it's fed in, if the TV won't handle that then there's not that much you can do.

It is my TV. Bummer I'm either going to get a new TV or sell this unit?

You have the option of returning it, distance selling act and all that.

Might just selling it on forums to someone that might need one or keep it? Need to talk to the wife and see if she can have my TV and I get a different one? She might not like that idea? I really don't want to sell it. I seen it work on the other TV I tried and it looked good on there. The only problem is the other TV is smaller 40" I need 50" or higher in my man cave. Need a hard think.....

Cheers for letting me know mate.

[bobrocks95]

As Promised, I returned with more photos.

I would have tried more games, but when they look as good as they do on this setup, it's hard not to just keep playing!

Whoa, that looks offensively good. Do you know the lag on your BenQ projector? Also, what would one have to do for aspect ratio correction, use another processor, or is anything built into that projector?

[Guspaz]

Projector Central says that the BenQ W1070 has 24ms of input lag, which is extremely low for a projector. That's half a frame faster than mine, which is already considered very fast for a projector. Most projectors are much higher (often well over 100ms), and if they can hit the 30-50ms range, it's usually only in a "game" mode that looks quite a bit worse. To achieve 24ms without needing to reduce image quality in a "game" mode is quite impressive.

[NormalFish]

Thanks for all the answers


I'll pickup a DVI-D HDMI adapter first since I don't have one. For me 2nd batch seems more likely since unless I rev out my Credit card I won't recover for Xmas present spending. And without sounding harsh I hope these incompatibility issues are ironed out. A bit strange that some TV's are built with a wider spectrum of compatibility than others. I thought HDMI was a standard and all resolution and frequencies had to be a standard.

HDMI is a standard. One the OSSC deviates from as part of its lag free line doubling design.

[Gnomenthusiast]

As Promised, I returned with more photos.

I would have tried more games, but when they look as good as they do on this setup, it's hard not to just keep playing!

Whoa, that looks offensively good. Do you know the lag on your BenQ projector? Also, what would one have to do for aspect ratio correction, use another processor, or is anything built into that projector?

Thanks! It does look great, and I haven't even "properly" setup the projector yet. It's projecting onto a wall, without a projection screen currently. I need to fix the projector position so I can dial the focus in correctly and run all the calibration disks and such. I would also say that if I took "proper" pictures (not handheld with an iPhone) it would capture even better how good it looks with line tripling and scan lines (I'm not a fan of how it looks without them).

I'm not sure about lag. People seem to obsess about it on forums and such, however I think my reaction times are a way bigger problem in my gaming than lag would ever be. If someone tells me how to test it, and I don't need to buy anything to do it, then I'll do the testing and post the results. I had a problem with audio lag, but this was because I had connected the output of the OSSC to a SONOS Play 5 speaker, and after reading online, I discovered that the line-in on that speaker is in no way useful as an AV speaker (for music, it's amazing for getting my turntable into the multi-room SONOS). The input lag on that speaker is ridiculous (several seconds at least). I hooked up some creative PC speakers and it works well.

As for the aspect ratio, the projector menu allows you to choose between the following (I haven't changed the setting from Auto, and it looks good after trimming the edges of the Megadrive image overscan using the OSSC). If anyone has any tips on what I should select, I'm all ears (although I assume it's different for different consoles?).



Perhaps I will experiment, however I'm pretty easily pleased compared to some on here, it's smooth and looks pretty. It scratches my nostalgic itch, and after figuring out that you could save the selected settings, I'm 100% pleased with it. I wasn't able to connect any of my old consoles before getting the OSSC so it's a perfect device for me. As I understand it, projectors are probably more likely to support the OSSC outputs because the internals will be closer to a PC monitor than a TV (pure conjecture).

[Simon Belmont]

As Promised, I returned with more photos.

I would have tried more games, but when they look as good as they do on this setup, it's hard not to just keep playing!

Whoa, that looks offensively good. Do you know the lag on your BenQ projector? Also, what would one have to do for aspect ratio correction, use another processor, or is anything built into that projector?

Thanks! It does look great, and I haven't even "properly" setup the projector yet. It's projecting onto a wall, without a projection screen currently. I need to fix the projector position so I can dial the focus in correctly and run all the calibration disks and such. I would also say that if I took "proper" pictures (not handheld with an iPhone) it would capture even better how good it looks with line tripling and scan lines (I'm not a fan of how it looks without them).

I'm not sure about lag. People seem to obsess about it on forums and such, however I think my reaction times are a way bigger problem in my gaming than lag would ever be. If someone tells me how to test it, and I don't need to buy anything to do it, then I'll do the testing and post the results. I had a problem with audio lag, but this was because I had connected the output of the OSSC to a SONOS Play 5 speaker, and after reading online, I discovered that the line-in on that speaker is in no way useful as an AV speaker (for music, it's amazing for getting my turntable into the multi-room SONOS). The input lag on that speaker is ridiculous (several seconds at least). I hooked up some creative PC speakers and it works well.

As for the aspect ratio, the projector menu allows you to choose between the following (I haven't changed the setting from Auto, and it looks good after trimming the edges of the Megadrive image overscan using the OSSC). If anyone has any tips on what I should select, I'm all ears (although I assume it's different for different consoles?).



Perhaps I will experiment, however I'm pretty easily pleased compared to some on here, it's smooth and looks pretty. It scratches my nostalgic itch, and after figuring out that you could save the selected settings, I'm 100% pleased with it. I wasn't able to connect any of my old consoles before getting the OSSC so it's a perfect device for me. As I understand it, projectors are probably more likely to support the OSSC outputs because the internals will be closer to a PC monitor than a TV (pure conjecture).

What projector do you have? Do you use the wall or a screen? Your pic's look good mate.

[citrus3000psi]

Yes but OSSC isn't outputting standard signal. It can only line double/triple what it's fed in, if the TV won't handle that then there's not that much you can do.

It is my TV. Bummer I'm either going to get a new TV or sell this unit?

You have the option of returning it, distance selling act and all that.

Might just selling it on forums to someone that might need one or keep it? Need to talk to the wife and see if she can have my TV and I get a different one? She might not like that idea? I really don't want to sell it. I seen it work on the other TV I tried and it looked good on there. The only problem is the other TV is smaller 40" I need 50" or higher in my man cave. Need a hard think.....

Cheers for letting me know mate.

Maybe keep both and add a DVDO to your setup.