quash wrote:
It didn't even last an entire day and consisted of a minority of gaslighted morons who sold off perfectly good stocks.
If people had good reason to believe that Trump was going to crash the economy into the ground, they'd be pulling their money out of the market like no tomorrow.
Maybe he'll say or do something that'll swing speculation the other way again, but I don't mind that at all.
(Talking about the US, here. International markets follow their own trends, and they were betting heavily on Clinton even after internal polls showed a lead for Trump.)
There's always a mood swing whenever a new president gets elected, perhaps with Brexit being touted as a major economic crash only to stabilize back to normal levels the investors have gotten used to this kind of thing.
Upset about not making as much off the stock exchange as you'd initially expect?
Speaking of Brexit, it speaks a lot about the ability of the ruling class to reflect on themselves when they walked into identical doorknobs twice in the same year.
Maybe if Clinton & Co. had learned from this and came out against illegal immigration, crime or even vague gestures against anti-white hate speech, and just get a tiny fraction of the white vote, she could've steamrolled everything, instead she banked too much on the imported demographic firewall who'll vote anything pro-immigration/not-as-anti-immigration (my mother and father both fled from Yugoslavia during the civil war to the Netherlands, I recall my mother telling me that she initially voted for the PvdA (Labor Party) because of their pro-immigration stance, only to regret it later after she saw what the PvdA turned into). Consider why Donald J. 'tax cuts for the rich' Trump is hailed as the Anti-Establishment Crusader for a moment, it's because the other person was the very
avatar of the same establishment the middle classes loathed. There's no way any well-meaning liberal intellectual would have ever voted for Trump despite her being Hillary 'Beelzebub' Clinton, so she could've tried pandering to middle-class whites in order to rope in those floating voters. But she didn't. She thought she had the cat in the bag from the very start, treating her opponents as nothing but obstacles, and it's that same arrogance that led her to her downfall.
The idea of not having to give up anything for the lower/middle-class whites turned out to be a serious miscalculation, as things like equality, political stability, climate change, and post-materialism in general
don't matter when your own living situation can't even be considered stable. Sure, those are all important aspects for a stable future society, but so are standards of living. First you want to ensure a solid foundation before you move on to the bigger fish. Democrats seemed to have moved on to 'greater' issues leaving those who couldn't keep up in the dust only to be dwarfed by those same people in the end, whereas Republicans are just as boggled when it comes to finding a solution to this problem and seem to be more concerned with lining their own pockets. It's even why black turnout in favor of Trump exceeded expectations despite his persona of racism, as eight years of Obama have done little to noticeably improve living conditions in black neighborhoods and increased skepticism towards Democrats.
The reason Trump garnered so many supporters is not because he was such a selfless and caring person with everyone's best interests in mind, but because he visited all those rural Rust Belt states and
seemed to care about those largely ignored by Clinton & Co., promising to bring back jobs and economic welfare, whereas even minorities could see through Clinton's obvious pandering. Whether he'll actually keep his promises -- he probably won't -- remains to be seen, but it's what made him win. Hillary pretended these people never mattered; let alone exist, with her surrogates even mocking them. If anything,
this quote sums this kind of stance up rather well.
I think "Rural" voters is too politically correct - Speaking as a liberal.
I think "Economically Irrelevant Region" voters would be a much more proper label. I think the more concerning here isn't that they're leaning Trump, it's that their votes are worth squat to begin with. Matters as important as these should belong to the movers and shakers that make America matter on the world stage, not racist rednecks with no internet and no education.
For the harbingers of political correctness, they can't even respect other people's opinions no matter how retarded those opinions are. Instead those people who don't know it's the 21st century must be idiots who can't think for themselves, and must have their ability to vote taken away. Is it even surprising why they vote for the big dummy with big promises over the smug lady who promises to keep things as they are?
With that in mind, it's more of a surprise how other people were surprised at the outcome of this election. This election was nothing more but a logical and inevitable conclusion to decades of neo-liberal politics progressively ignoring and belittling the middle classes, and the dissatisfaction of those same middle classes. In schools we were taught that we shouldn't bully minorities because of any negative stereotypes they might have -- they just might become the monster you make them about to be if you push them over the edge, yet despite all that it's open season on the poor and "dumbasses". Could those Trump voters start leaning more towards a far-right fringe the more they're ridiculed and let down by the left? Or are all of them truly beyond hope and reason? Not even the most respectable, logical and intelligent of people can consistently evade the pitfalls of smug derision and
if they deem their opponent illogical and beyond help. Yet that seems to be an acceptable thing to do nowadays, even more so in higher circles.
All of this is shit, but understandable. Trying to combat the rising (alt-)right through figurative force and the media harping on the same arguments over and over only made things worse and prompted more people to rebel against the ongoing political correctness, whether you believe it's a thing or not. For years the elites have downplayed the concerns of the plebs or even gone as far to mock them, and now the revenge of the nerds has come in a very nasty way. Trump is far from a noble warrior, but he learned from Obama that promising people change is a good way to get yourself elected. Trump and Brexit are the symptom of years of bitter cynicism and disappointment, not a battle between racists and the good guys, or a battle between left and right. But it will be in the future, if left unchecked and uncontrolled. If what Mischief Maker said turned out to be true and that Our Revolution after a Clinton presidency would grow to produce the results many Trump voters and Bernouts were hoping for, then that's truly a shame, but for now one thing that needs to be done is for the Democratic Party to take a good hard look at itself after
willingly nominating someone so unlikable with so much political baggage just because of political favors and it being Her turn. That, and not being so condescending.
If you still don't understand why people voted Trump, look around you. Trump enjoyed the votes of racists, low-income whites, other minorities fed up with Obama, xenophobes, and most white people in general, so he'd better make it count. I have no idea what kind of future a Trump presidency combined with a full Republican house will bring, most likely not a good one. He's certainly bound to get hated even harder if he doesn't keep after his promises. Perhaps this is also a good moment for everyone to reflect on the amount of power the USA holds, something what most people have handwaved away as being used solely for the good and benevolence of the people by good and benevolent presidents -- up until now.
), but I'm willing to predict that "taxes/regulations cut for the wealthy and their businesses, benefits/protections cut for everyone else, deficit skyrockets, no acknowledgement of error on any of these" somehow manages to make it through. Either way, off we go...
