Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Volteccer_Jack]

Whether he'd actually do it or not, the fact remains Trump can't control his stupid mouth when he gets irritable.

So you think a guy who is almost president can't control his mouth? I'll just link Bender again. Maybe you're the one who needs to reconsider what people should and shouldn't say.

The guy wants to be president, so he better be able to show he can stand by his word. As it is, he can't be trusted.

So
A) you think the candidate who destroys marked classified material without asking or telling anyone is trustworthy (PROTIP if I did that I would be severely fucked even if I got off easy)
and
B) you think trustworthiness is important in a presidential candidate, despite most of the history of the country indicating that no such correlation exists
and
C) you think there is any circumstance under which you CAN trust someone who is trying to talk you into handing them one of the powerful positions in the world

Like holy shit, can you imagine if our government was so badly designed that we had to find a good, trustworthy person to be the President? We would've collapsed before we even finished genociding all those indian tribes.

[Xyga]

Trump can't control his stupid mouth when he gets irritable

Let's be fair, if one thing he's got incredible control of his orbicularis oris, google image "trump's mouth" obviously he's world class in the discipline.

[BryanM]

Represent.us has another nice one out.

Like holy shit, can you imagine if our government was so badly designed that we had to find a good, trustworthy person to be the President?

We actually do.

We're currently extinct as a species. You might not think so (yet). But you'd be wrong.

Nothing says "you've failed" as well as complete extinction. Fellow ghosts.

[BulletMagnet]

A bit more fuel for the tax returns fire.

[quash]

Incidentally quash, I don't get you. On one hand you hate Hillary because she's a hawk, but then you rip on Obama because he told the pentagon to tone down the inflammatory language toward China. Do you want to resolve things diplomatically or do you want to bust some heads? Or are you hoping Trump will remain so erratic that nobody in the world would try any posturing with his finger on the button?

I don't dislike Hillary because she's going to start a war, I dislike her because she's going to start a stupid, self-destructive war the US cannot afford to enter against the two militaries that can actually stand up to ours.

Saying we're in competition with China isn't inflammatory, it's the fucking truth. Thanks to Obama's limp dick decisions regarding our posture out here, China has made enormous progress in a little over a year, which has made war with them a near inevitability.

So why do I prefer Trump? Because, as I said earlier, he'll be able to get Russia not necessarily on our side, but at least amicable towards us. That can either ensure that Russia won't support them in the event we do go to war, or perhaps they can use their diplomatic pressure to force China to back off.

As it stands, the US is encircling Russia and refusing to have diplomatic talks, all while "accidentally" supporting ISIS and increasing ground presence in Syria and Iraq.

[quash]

"Vice presidents don't matter." - Quash

Not so much that they don't matter at all, but that in most cases they end up being figureheads relegated to doing the dirty work.

I'll even agree that in the case of W. Bush, he was the figurehead doing the dirty work for Cheney, but that was a special case.

Biden? He was the insurance policy against Obama getting assassinated. Same goes for Pence, except in his case there's people who would actually want him to be president.

Same people, different names it looks like. Good luck with your respective football teams, gentlemen. Since that's all you two care about.

Wanna know something embarrassing? I'm a registered Libertarian, and I voted for both Jerry Brown and Obama. I couldn't even get wasting my vote right.

[BulletMagnet]

Bombing civilians - it's not a bug, it's a feature.

[BryanM]

I voted for both Jerry Brown and Obama. I couldn't even get wasting my vote right.

Those were different football games. They were oil companies vs banks; the one we have now is oil companies vs oil companies.

See? Totally different.

[quash]

Bombing civilians - it's not a bug, it's a feature.

I sure hope this isn't an attempt to take the moral high ground, though knowing you it almost certainly is.

Notice how even the American press has to admit how badly we've fucked up in Syria: we can't keep either side of the opposition under control, and we finance both of them.

[Ed Oscuro]

For all that talk about Hillary starting wars, remember that Trump is the one who wants more nuclear proliferation, and some of her leaked comments show that she wants to cancel the nuclear cruise missile project and probably scale back the nuclear arsenal overhaul started by the Obama Administration, which does risk sparking an arms race.

So, back to you, Trump Spin Team.

So
A) you think the candidate who destroys marked classified material without asking or telling anyone is trustworthy (PROTIP if I did that I would be severely fucked even if I got off easy)
and
B) you think trustworthiness is important in a presidential candidate, despite most of the history of the country indicating that no such correlation exists
and
C) you think there is any circumstance under which you CAN trust someone who is trying to talk you into handing them one of the powerful positions in the world

So you cede that Trump is an untrustworthy slimeball. You don't seriously think that leaves him with any good leadership qualities, do you? I think we ought to aim a bit higher than "guy who can't stay focused for 25 minutes on anything but insulting people."

[quash]

I already covered that. Nuclear proliferation is a boogeyman to keep nations afraid of our allies in the event we eventually stop supporting them. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these nations already have plans to go nuclear in the event something like that happens, or in some cases, are already sitting on nukes.

And we absolutely need to overhaul our nuclear arsenal. The arms race is already being lost on the conventional front, so we need to maintain the upper hand however we can for the time being.

[ColonelFatso]

I'm not one to agree with the Donald on anything typically, but there's a strong argument to be made that nuclear proliferation has saved more lives than any peacekeeping initiative (at the cost of several decades of existential dread). Before Mutually Assured Destruction we had incredibly bloody wars between major powers every generation or two going back as far as anyone can remember, and I suspect if reliable counters to nuclear weapons are ever developed, or if total nuclear disarmament ever becomes a reality, we'll be right back to that within a decade.

Plus, you don't need to look further than the Ukraine to see what happens when a state gives up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for 'promises' of sovereignty.

[Durandal]

Taking in consideration Hillary's questionable remaining lifespan, wouldn't a vote for Hillary be a potential vote for a Tim Kaine presidency? Would that be a good/bad/better thing?

[BryanM]

Taking in consideration Hillary's questionable remaining lifespan, wouldn't a vote for Hillary be a potential vote for a Tim Kaine presidency? Would that be a good/bad/better thing?

As I've explained previously, Vice Presidents Are The Only Thing That Matter.

Tim Kaine is identical to Hillary Clinton. Mike Pence is identical to Donald Trump. If they were not identical, they would not have chosen them as VP.

So the only measurable difference is what personality will the sock puppet demonstrate. If you find Kaine more entertaining or nice to listen to than a Hillary, then there's your upside.

(And really, a vote for Hillary is a vote for conceding the next two election cycles to republicans. We'll be looking back at the massacre of 2010 as "the good 'ole days", I tell ya.)

[BryanM]

Hurrrrm unpaid slave labor? Sign me up, Hildiggs!

An observation other people have made before me: You know how they make a big deal about the identity of politicians? That it matters if the king is black, white, latino, male, or female? The first to break through those barriers are almost always in lockstep service to the powerful. Margaret Thatcher was huge on fucking the poor. Barack Obama was as good of a sock puppet as any for the banks.

The first woman president to represent women is still a very long ways away.

[Bitter Almonds]

Bombing civilians - it's not a bug, it's a feature.

The US also bombs civilians - they drone struck hospitals, wedding parties, etc. Under bill clint0n, they bombed the hell outta Serbia, supporting kla terrorists. So $hillary herself would bomb civilians. After all, she's gone on the record as admiring notorious war criminal, kissinger, who oversaw the secret carpet bombing campaign in Southeast Asia.

[BryanM]

Oh goody, look whose checks have cleared.

I take back my snobbish remarks about the futility and stupidity of hating a puppet. That was wrong and short sighted of me. I'm fully on board the Clinton hate train now. It's only right that, if you hate having shit fall on your face, you should also hate Poopy, the mascot and symbol of all shit everywhere, right?

[Lord Satori]

Big shocker, the woman who tried to ban video games is against weed.

[atheistgod1999]

The first woman president to represent women is still a very long ways away.

[BulletMagnet]

...seriously, is he okay?

[Mischief Maker]

...seriously, is he okay?

Nah, he's just playing 4-dimensional chess and will totally be a completely different person once in office.

Meanwhile, is Gary Johnson taking a dive? Or is he acting like an absentminded fool to woo Trump voters? (God knows it makes more sense for them to go to Johnson than Sanders voters).

[BryanM]

Objectively, if the worst people in the world back you, you're the greater evil by definition. In the god emperor we trust.

Somehow missed this, but Assange is supposedly going to drop his final turd on Tuesday. Due to security concerns, they're not doing it on a balcony where he can get shot in the head.

Big shocker, the woman who tried to ban video games is against weed.

Mortal Kombat turned me into a basement dweller!

[Durandal]

Objectively, if the worst people in the world back you, you're the greater evil by definition

People would still vote for a candidate openly backed by the KKK, Monsanto, Bank of America, NSA, and EA, as long as the candidate's policies seem attractive and plausible.

Somehow missed this, but Assange is supposedly going to drop his final turd on Tuesday. Due to security concerns, they're not doing it on a balcony where he can get shot in the head.

Actually, they're opting for a drone strike instead.

[Durandal]

More Russian hackers attempt to sway the election by falsifying records to cast Hillary in a bad light so Putin's puppet Trump can deliver the country to the Reds, after which Trump accuses Hillary of being the one who has Putin's hand stuck up her skirt.

In the mean time the side characters were fighting for their senpai's honor and pride.

[Ed Oscuro]

The War Against Coal

+ "there you go again"

ahaha, people giving Pence a win. No, he was just smug, evasive, tactically hypocritical and generally obnoxious. Kaine wasn't perfect either but I think he spoke for a hell of a lot of people: Just show the damn returns already!

Meanwhile in Hoosierland, 45,000 voter applications up in the air. Bless the fraud police, I'm sure all of the legitimate voters who will be turned away will understand.

[quash]

Syria is about ready to explode. Vote wisely.

[Mischief Maker]

Syria is about ready to explode. Vote wisely.

I just have to tell you that the provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength. And if Russia chooses to be involved and continue, I should say, to be involved in this barbaric attack on civilians in Aleppo, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike military targets of the Assad regime to prevent them from this humanitarian crisis that is taking place in Aleppo.

But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.

I don't disagree with you on Syria, I disagree with your assessment of Trump.

And Trump's a climate change denier while I've been wearing flip-flops and a T-Shirt in October. You don't think the effects of unchecked Climate Change (accelerated actually, if you believe Trump's policy proposals) would trigger a war or two?

[system11]

And Trump's a climate change denier while I've been wearing flip-flops and a T-Shirt in October. You don't think the effects of unchecked Climate Change (accelerated actually, if you believe Trump's policy proposals) would trigger a war or two?

Nobody gives a shit about climate change because there's just one real solution: lower birth rates, drastically.

From the article Bryan linked about the media all backing Clinton - this happened with Brexit too, pretty much the whole mainstream media have been banging the anti-Brexit drum and just won't stop, it shows them for what they are - a biased class of people in control. The article very accurately states:

"The flurry of anti-Trump and pro-Clinton editorials is at the same time a reflection of concern within the ruling class over the lack of popular enthusiasm for Clinton, particularly among younger voters, who largely see her as a corrupt representative of the status quo. The near-unanimity of the major media in support of the Democratic candidate stands in stark contrast to the broadly felt distrust and dissatisfaction with the candidates of both major big business parties. This disjuncture is one expression of the chasm that exists between the entire political system and the general population."

Bolded the important parts, it's not too bad when you have a variety of biased media (unbiased doesn't exist), but now it's a herd collective backing the liberal elites. The BBC is a particularly awful example, they used to be good but coverage has been borderline hysteria now for months, to the point where they appear to be TRYING to sabotage business confidence and the economy with incredibly doom mongering headlines and "analysis".

[Mischief Maker]

You know what the media would do if they were REALLY in the tank for Hillary?

Give her $3 billion worth of free airtime.

It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS!

Kardashian 4 prez

[Durandal]

You know what the media would do if they were REALLY in the tank for Hillary?

Give her $3 billion worth of free airtime.

But all that airtime is spent on bashing Trump! Don't you see how much we want to NOT have this guy elected? Look at this guy, his hair, and all the stupid shit he does! Why are you people still seriously considering him as a presidential candidate? It's as if the public prefers some generic relateable rich schmuck who has no idea what he's doing and promising all kinds of hopeful change over an experienced woman who knows the ins and outs of the system and promises policies. Sure, reporting on how much of an idiot this guy is is also profitable for us, but we make up for it by positively portraying Clinton, see?