Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Mischief Maker]

Cripes, if you look at the twitter feed of Tony Schwartz, the ghostwriter who made up "The Art of the Deal," it reads like a man desperately trying to save his soul:

https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[quash]

He's not going to release his tax returns because he's not really a billionaire.

He filed for a tax exemption in NY that you can only get if your income is below $500,000.

What are investments and assets?

[quash]

That intent Comey and his crack team of five year olds didn't need and couldn't find? Here it is.

Where were you when Hillary's campaign came undone by a second rate sysadmin who asked for help with deleting emails on Reddit?

[Bitter Almonds]

Yet another rich bankster walks away Scott free from massive fraud and theft...

http://fair.org/home/noelle-hanrahan-on ... rgo-fraud/

Under a $hillary administration, it is guaranteed this will happen again. The whole campaign is beholden to them. It's time to release those goldmansacks transcripts.

[quash]

In the aftermath of the US "accidentally" aiding ISIS, Russia has sent its aircraft carrier to Syria.

There's your proof of this election being directly related to the war in Syria. They're waiting to see who wins and will take action accordingly.

[Mischief Maker]

Now Stephen Hawking is against Trump (along with a shitload of other scientists):

From studies of changes in temperature and sea level over the last million years, we know that the climate system has tipping points. Our proximity to these tipping points is uncertain. We know, however, that rapid warming of the planet increases the risk of crossing climatic points of no return, possibly setting in motion large-scale ocean circulation changes, the loss of major ice sheets, and species extinctions. The climatic consequences of exceeding such thresholds are not confined to the next one or two electoral cycles. They have lifetimes of many thousands of years.

The political system also has tipping points. Thus it is of great concern that the Republican nominee for President has advocated U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Accord. A “Parexit” would send a clear signal to the rest of the world: "The United States does not care about the global problem of human-caused climate change. You are on your own." Such a decision would make it far more difficult to develop effective global strategies for mitigating and adapting to climate change. The consequences of opting out of the global community would be severe and long-lasting – for our planet’s climate and for the international credibility of the United States.

I think the fundamental difference between quash and myself in this election is the major disaster we fear the other candidate represents. quash thinks war, I think global climate chain-reaction.

I say Hillary is the lesser evil because we've been actively losing life and property to increasingly chaotic and dangerous weather for a decade now, while it's entirely up to human decision whether the US and Russia go to war.

The Paris Accords, as weak as they are, directly address the cause of climate change, quash hopes that Trump will be a Neville Chamberlain in terms of foreign policy and hopes that would be the correct approach to persuading rival leaders. But as with just about everything Trump-related it's a flip of a coin whether any of that will happen.

But let's not miss the real danger this election. If the Libertarian party gets enough of the vote to receive federal funding, then accepts it, the resulting irony would tear a hole in the space time continuum so big it would rip our planet to pieces!

[Bonus!]

I just come across this: Trump spends 1/35th of Crooked Hillary on his campaign, yet is at the very least tied in the polls. No surprises here, since liberals/leftists aren't known for their ability to handle money. ;p
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-2 ... p-responds

[Mischief Maker]

I just come across this: Trump spends 1/35th of Crooked Hillary on his campaign, yet is at the very least tied in the polls. No surprises here, since liberals/leftists aren't known for their ability to handle money. ;p
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-2 ... p-responds

Doesn't include the $3 billion + in free airtime/advertising the media gives to Cheeto Jesus.

He's not going to release his tax returns because he's not really a billionaire.

He filed for a tax exemption in NY that you can only get if your income is below $500,000.

What are investments and assets?

Well let's hypothetically say he has ONE billion dollars to invest (much less the 10 billion he claims), and puts it into an investment so terrible it only has a 1% annual return.

That's still $1 million in annual income.

So if he really is a multibillionaire with his money tied up in investments, they're phenomenally shitty investments. I don't think I want that guy making investments for my country.

[BryanM]

Yeah everything she does while campaigning is terrible.

She puts all this effort into getting campaign donations to put them into TV. But, TV ads are redundant as that media is already doing its best to help her.

Does she really think every dollar she spends in swing states has a linear return on investment? If she does, she's the stupidest person on the planet.

If she doesn't, then all the time she spends at fundraisers isn't about gathering money. It's about reassuring her patrons that she has their back. To make sure they still support her in other ways more useful than money.

Didn't she recently whine about how Trump isn't getting completely destroyed? I think this is arguably the worst executed campaign in history.

But let's not miss the real danger this election. If the Libertarian party gets enough of the vote to receive federal funding, then accepts it, the resulting irony would tear a hole in the space time continuum so big it would rip our planet to pieces!

It's traditional objectivism to take whatever is in front of you. You can rationalize it by saying "I pay taxes so it's just my money coming back to me!!!!" when what you receive doesn't fall short of what you've paid.

The easiest thing in the world is to criticize the actions of others. If it's me, it's good. If it's someone else, it's bad.

Doesn't include the $3 billion + in free advertising the media gives to Cheeto Jesus.

The playing field is even. Everyone knows the rules.

If Hillary insists on being so goddamn boring that they can't make a buck off of covering her, that's a strategic decision on the part of her and her campaign.

Think about it, man. For every minute of airtime she'd gain for herself, she'd deny the angry rutabaga a minute. Like a time vampire, that's a two for one. Maybe she'd be way ahead if she put half as much effort into being interesting as she does begging zillionaires for help and food crumbs from their beards.

All things being equal, being more entertaining is a net plus. I dread her snobby tone deaf speeches more than I do the annihilation of all life on the planet. God save us.

God save us.

Actually, God... don't bother. Thanks in advance!

[Giest118]

The only thing at stake in this election is the title of first woman president.

[BryanM]

Next week will probably be a bloodbath.

But you knew that already*!

[quash]

I think the fundamental difference between quash and myself in this election is the major disaster we fear the other candidate represents. quash thinks war, I think global climate chain-reaction.

What you don't realize is that where the US is liable to lose a war is from within. Given the current distrust in government and financial institutions, the US literally cannot survive another war.

You're worried about climate change. Wonderful. I just hope you can connect the dots on why it's important to have a strong, functioning government if anything is to ever be done about it.

[Mischief Maker]

You're worried about climate change. Wonderful. I just hope you can connect the dots on why it's important to have a strong, functioning government if anything is to ever be done about it.

Great! So you agree that a guy who tried selling steak at an electronics store probably wouldn't be a strong leader, right?

And I don't think massive outbreaks of salmonella and e-coli thanks to eradication of the FDA makes for a terribly strong country either.

[quash]

I don't know where that half baked attempt at character assassination came from, but I'll take all of Trump's failed business ventures a hundred times over before someone who accelerated the destabilization of the Middle East for political gain.

And there is nothing wrong with getting rid of government agencies. The FDA and EPA should both be replaced with something better, and we can live without the DHS or TSA.

[Mischief Maker]

I don't know where that half baked attempt at character assassination came from, but I'll take all of Trump's failed business ventures a hundred times over before someone who accelerated the destabilization of the Middle East for political gain.

You mean Mike Pence?

[quash]

Pfft. Pence is the janitor at the Crusty Clinton. He's not even allowed behind the register.

Your wording was awfully peculiar, now that I read your post again. Are you insinuating that climate change isn't a decision and that going to war is?

Because you're right about one thing: the wrong person behind the wheel will keep us on our crash course to nowhere. Refuse to see the signs and read between the lines at your own peril.

[BryanM]

Pence has bragged about how he wants to be like Dick Cheney. He's going to be in control of our country, just like Dick Cheney was. All the good things Trump claims to be for half the time will evaporate instantly. Wouldn't be surprised to see the TPP pass under him with at most superficial changes.

Trump isn't here to save us. He's here to make sure Bernie Sanders loses the primary. Mission accomplished.

[Mischief Maker]

Pfft. Pence is the janitor at the Crusty Clinton. He's not even allowed behind the register.

Not according to Kasich campaign:

One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, who left the presidential race just a few weeks before. As a candidate, Kasich declared in March that Trump was “really not prepared to be president of the United States,” and the following month he took the highly unusual step of coordinating with his rival Senator Ted Cruz in an effort to deny Trump the nomination. But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.

Trump is the only presidential candidate with less government experience than Jill Stein. Who is he surrounding himself with to advise him on the ways and decisions of government? Neocons.

I don't know where that half baked attempt at character assassination came from,

Because you're right about one thing: the wrong person behind the wheel will keep us on our crash course to nowhere. Refuse to see the signs and read between the lines at your own peril.

That "half-assed attempt at character assassination" was me stating facts that Trump would be the wrong person behind the wheel as evidenced by his long history of businesses fuckups. Not promising businesses that didn't pan out because of market trends outside his control, fuckups! Any layman knows that selling steaks at an electronics store is a dumbass move.

You wanna know why Trump LOST money in the casino business, despite the fact the house always wins? Because he opened three different Trump casinos in the same town, and they cannibalized business from each other. He took the same amount of tourist traffic and divided it between all three, so all of them were bringing 1/3rd the profit and none of them could stay in the black so all three went under. Any kid with an MBA could have pointed this out to him. One time it got so bad his daddy, Fred Trump, had to come to the rescue by sending his lawyer to a Trump casino to buy $3 million in casino chips then drive away with them as an illegal gift.

That's Trump "in his element." Wanna know what TRULY savvy businessmen do? Create businesses that make a profit.

You're so busy trying to read between the lines that I think you're missing the blatant text in bold helvetica in front of your eyes. Trump is not a secret genius, he's a less-qualified Sarah Palin in clownface. Don't take it from me, take it from the author of "The Art of the Deal":

This year, Schwartz has heard some argue that there must be a more thoughtful and nuanced version of Donald Trump that he is keeping in reserve for after the campaign. “There isn’t,” Schwartz insists. “There is no private Trump.” This is not a matter of hindsight. While working on “The Art of the Deal,” Schwartz kept a journal in which he expressed his amazement at Trump’s personality, writing that Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention. “All he is is ‘stomp, stomp, stomp’—recognition from outside, bigger, more, a whole series of things that go nowhere in particular,” he observed, on October 21, 1986.

And as to your question of who is the right person behind the wheel in the case of crisis:

“Trump has been written about a thousand ways from Sunday, but this fundamental aspect of who he is doesn’t seem to be fully understood,” Schwartz told me. “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.

Yeah, I hate Hillary and think she's a reprehensible person who will not accomplish anything positive unless firmly pressured by heavy grassroots activism. She's the lesser evil. My support for her is entirely fueled by the awfulness of Trump. I remember you making reference to "The Art of the Deal" as providing insight into Trump's hidden genius before you found out it was ghostwritten. A con man doesn't have to be smart, they just have to be aggressive and double-down on any lies they're caught in. Take a closer look at your savior.

[Mischief Maker]

Trump isn't here to save us. He's here to make sure Bernie Sanders loses the primary. Mission accomplished.

Ugh.

Remind me to lock up the guns, bleach, and razor blades before I watch the Republican Debate on Monday.

[quash]

Pence has bragged about how he wants to be like Dick Cheney. He's going to be in control of our country, just like Dick Cheney was. All the good things Trump claims to be for half the time will evaporate instantly. Wouldn't be surprised to see the TPP pass under him with at most superficial changes.

I doubt Trump has much, if any, trust in Pence. He was a choice made solely with the intent of pandering to the base that was firmly planted in the #NeverTrump sector of the party.

Trump isn't here to save us. He's here to make sure Bernie Sanders loses the primary. Mission accomplished.

Are you seriously pinning the blame for that on Trump? Have you read the DNC emails? They all but confirm that Bernie was set up for failure from the very beginning. If it weren't for Trump, we'd be looking at Jeb Bush or Ted Cruz winning against Hillary Clinton.

Trump is the only presidential candidate with less government experience than Jill Stein.

This in and of itself is not a bad thing. Career politicians do not necessarily make the best presidents, or even the best politicians in general.

Who is he surrounding himself with to advise him on the ways and decisions of government? Neocons.

What choice does he have? When even Mad Dog Mattis is in the pocket of the neocon establishment, you can't afford to be as discerning as you should be. He does have some paleoconservatives on his side, though I doubt that's helping you sleep at night.

Any layman knows that selling steaks at an electronics store is a dumbass move.

Sharper Image isn't strictly an electronics store. It's basically a catch all for high ticket novelty products, which is about where I'd peg Trump Steaks.

I remember you making reference to "The Art of the Deal" as providing insight into Trump's hidden genius before you found out it was ghostwritten.

I still stand by it being the blueprint for how he approaches negotiations. Having been ghostwritten doesn't detract from this whatsoever.

If you wanna talk about surreal scenes in the situation room, look no further than this.

Biden looks like he doesn't know what's going on. Obama isn't even in the decision making chair. Hillary is looking on in horror (I wonder why).

Kick and scream all you want, but the pendulum is swinging the other way, and there's little you can do to stop it. Your party has had more than enough chances in the past eight years to do right by its promises, and yet not only are you not satisfied, but neither is anyone else. Truly, the party of solutions.

[BryanM]

Some more Hillary bashing because really, fuck her.

Judgmental mother-in-law who's never satisfied with anything you do, while she supports herself by robbing you of your paycheck. She's the greater evil! Sad.

I doubt Trump has much, if any, trust in Pence. He was a choice made solely with the intent of pandering to the base that was firmly planted in the #NeverTrump sector of the party.

Quash, you're going full crazy town here. A VP is someone you have to live and sleep with 24/7 for four to eight years. That's more significant than MARRYING someone. You don't pick someone you don't like or disagree significantly with. If you die, they're supposed to replace you for crying out loud. It's the single most important decision a president makes.

When Obama was taking shitloads of cash from Goldman Sachs and other banks back in 2007, it was obvious he was going to be their gangster. When Hillary jizzes herself over being best friends with war criminal Henry Kissinger, and goes on to spread pro-war propaganda, it's obvious she's Hitler.

When Trump wraps himself with neo cons, it's obvious he's going to be the second coming of George W. The most I dare hope from him is for him to resist their calls to go to war with Iran. But that's all that is: hope. The most useless of emotions that people turn to when there is nothing else they can do. Hope is for the hopeless.

Don't be a hypocrite. Don't give him the benefit of the doubt you'd NEVER give Hillary. Just because you like someone, you can't make excuses for them.

If you legitimately think he's great due to his wall or pro-torture policies, that's one thing. To say the grass is purple when its green, is another.

Just because you like someone, you can't make excuses for them.

Example:

I think Bernie Sanders's stance on nuclear power is just wrong.

[quash]

I've literally said that I'm not invested in the wall and that his stance on torture is the worst thing about him.

The VP is basically a stooge, dude. Maybe Pence is the neocon's insurance policy in the event Trump doesn't want to go along with their plans (which I can almost guarantee you, he doesn't). But that'd still require either a plausible scenario for a natural death or an assassination attempt, either of which would make him a martyr.

Meanwhile, the stage is being set for Hillary to start WWIII with Russia, Syria, Iran, and anyone else unfortunate enough to get in our way. Again, you can choose to ignore the obvious signs if you want, but don't come back crying to me when you're being drafted to fight the most pointless and self destructive war in American history.

[Mischief Maker]

If you wanna talk about surreal scenes in the situation room, look no further than this.

Biden looks like he doesn't know what's going on. Obama isn't even in the decision making chair. Hillary is looking on in horror (I wonder why).

Suddenly I'm reminded of the time Opus 131 posted a bunch of pictures of Huma Abedin looking hot in the vicinity of Hillary as proof postive that Clinton was a lesbian.

And hey fellas, she ditched the mongoose and now she's available again!

[quash]

Honestly: wouldn't, either of them. Even in their respective primes.

I don't think you understand the importance of that decision making chair. 99% of the time, that belongs solely to the highest ranking person available, with the remaining 1% being when said person isn't available, for whatever reason.

[BryanM]

Huma is a HBB and I have no idea why she married a potato head.

Ok that's a lie, she's a gold digger that's why.

(which I can almost guarantee you, he doesn't)

You're going to be very disappointed.

Trump is not "super asshole version of Bernie Sanders".

[Mischief Maker]

I don't think you understand the importance of that decision making chair. 99% of the time, that belongs solely to the highest ranking person available, with the remaining 1% being when said person isn't available, for whatever reason.

Yes I do understand.

The Donald Trump that exists in your mind is not the actual person running for office. You say you've been reading between the lines, but it seems to me you're actually filling in the blanks. He's going to replace the FDA with something better? When did he say that? At what point in his history of failure did he demonstrate having the capacity to create an administrative entity that can run with greater efficiency? No, Virginia, there isn't a Santa Claus.

What I don't understand is the whole Trump supporter mindset that he's this savvy businessman who has been publicly documented as fucking over his investors, defrauding poor people who wanted to learn his brilliant business skills from Trump University, and dipping into his own charity (filled with other people's money) to buy himself football memorabilia and commission portraits of himself...

...but you are the exception to the rule who's not going to get fucked for putting your trust in Orange Julius Caesar.

[BryanM]

quash answer me this:

Capitalism is:

a) A predatory system where those with more power use their power to deprive those weaker than themselves of power in order to enrich themselves.

b) A completely fair system where those with merit and capability get paid fairly. Everyone gets what they deserve.

[BIL]

And hey fellas, she ditched the mongoose and now she's available again!

And for the young ladies, Carlos Danger is back on the prowl too!

He would bust that tight pussy so hard and so often that you would leak and limp for a week

[EmperorIng]

Man fuck, I thought my fake name of Rothello Sanchez was cool, but Carlos Danger is just on a whole other level. I'm jelly.

If you wanna talk about surreal scenes in the situation room, look no further than this.

Biden looks like he doesn't know what's going on. Obama isn't even in the decision making chair. Hillary is looking on in horror (I wonder why).

Suddenly I'm reminded of the time Opus 131 posted a bunch of pictures of Huma Abedin looking hot in the vicinity of Hillary as proof postive that Clinton was a lesbian.

The sad thing about this is that because of confirmation biases, most everyone can't tell when Opus was/is joking (like that post). The guy actually has/had[?] a pretty dry and sarcastic sense of humor, but I guess because it directed at Democrat politicians and "liberal cucks" it must have flown over your and BM's head.

I mean, seriously. Did you not catch a hint of it with lines like:

Now there's even some rumor going around that Hillary may be a lesbian, which would mean she would not only be the first woman president, but also the first LGBT president. There's history to be made here, who cares about some decrepit old socialist Jew with a long civil rights record?

That you didn't seem to get it just confirms my bias that lefties are incredibly humorless.
EDIT: I admit Bryan you're kinda funny.

Actually, God... don't bother. Thanks in advance!

Ha ha!

As for the chair thing: it wasn't until I learned a bit more about military culture that I understood that the "commander's chair" is a pretty sacrosanct place. No soldier would dare sit in it in fear of disrespecting the CO. In this instance I'd just wager it is cluelessness or ignorance of that culture on Obama's part (you can bet that Hillary will never NOT sit in that chair), which again, signals to military personnel several red flags: either dismissal of protocol or the chain of command, weakness, or other [even] more conspiratorial notions.

Here's a fun video talking about exploring submarine discipline/life that talks about it!

[BIL]

Man fuck, I thought my fake name of Rothello Sanchez was cool, but Carlos Danger is just on a whole other level. I'm jelly.

I go by "Derrick Hammer" while cruising for young booty

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