Looking for some advice guys, i've read a bunch about upscalers but im still confused on which one would best fit my setup.
I just bought the Epson EH-TW5300 projector and I am not sure what upscaler I should buy. (input lag is around 28-30ms)
I looked in the manual to find supported resolutions and the lowest res it supports is 640x480 via VGA (the manual called it analog RGB)
the systems i want to hookup are a pal snes, modded pal playstation one, NTSC n64, and pal dreamcast.
I don't mind spending the money and getting a framemeister, but i've heard it introduces some lag.
anyone here have the SLG in a box? can it output to 1080p? does it add any lag to my setup?
i really wanted to get a OCCS but the wait time and no audio out option kills it for me.
Help me choose an upscaler
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Fudoh
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Re: Help me choose an upscaler
why it that ? You certainly won't feed audio into your projector, so it shouldn't matter to you.and no audio out option kills it for me.
The Framemeister has 1.5 frames of lag, but it hands down the best processor out there next to the OSSC. Don't choose anything else than these two.
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Re: Help me choose an upscaler
guess you are right about not needing the audio feed, i just wanted it for convenience sake.Fudoh wrote:why it that ? You certainly won't feed audio into your projector, so it shouldn't matter to you.and no audio out option kills it for me.
The Framemeister has 1.5 frames of lag, but it hands down the best processor out there next to the OSSC. Don't choose anything else than these two.
how much is 1.5 frames of lag in ms? that seem very acceptable.
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Re: Help me choose an upscaler
1.5 frames is 25ms, although I believe the framemeister adds around 20ms.
The Epson EH-TW5300 has both a built-in speaker and a 3.5mm audio out for decoding audio off HDMI, so it's certainly possible to run the audio to the projector via HDMI and then either use the built-in speaker or run the analog audio out from there.
That said, the 5W mono built-in speaker isn't all that great (useful in a pinch for a presentation, not exactly hi-fi), and if you're going to use the 3.5mm audio output of the projector you might as well have used the 3.5mm audio output from the OSSC from the start. That audio output is more useful in scenarios where you've got a device that only supports audio output over HDMI, and you want to use good speakers with the projector.
That projector will accept 240p/480i input over the composite jack, and the composite video quality on Epson projectors is actually very good (if my Epson PowerLite 8345 is any indication). That said, the composite input will likely have roughly two frames of additional lag when accepting 240p/480i than when you feed it 480p, because the projector will force composite to always pass through the deinterlacer.
My 8345 has 2 frames of lag with 480p, and 4 frames of lag with 480i. The only exception that I've found so far is 240p component, which it treats as progressive with 2 frames of lag. I've been meaning to try 240p input via VGA just for the heck of it, but I don't yet have the cable to test that. Unfortunately, your projector does not support component, because in that case you could simply use an RGB-to-component transcoder and skip the upscaler altogether.
The Epson EH-TW5300 has both a built-in speaker and a 3.5mm audio out for decoding audio off HDMI, so it's certainly possible to run the audio to the projector via HDMI and then either use the built-in speaker or run the analog audio out from there.
That said, the 5W mono built-in speaker isn't all that great (useful in a pinch for a presentation, not exactly hi-fi), and if you're going to use the 3.5mm audio output of the projector you might as well have used the 3.5mm audio output from the OSSC from the start. That audio output is more useful in scenarios where you've got a device that only supports audio output over HDMI, and you want to use good speakers with the projector.
That projector will accept 240p/480i input over the composite jack, and the composite video quality on Epson projectors is actually very good (if my Epson PowerLite 8345 is any indication). That said, the composite input will likely have roughly two frames of additional lag when accepting 240p/480i than when you feed it 480p, because the projector will force composite to always pass through the deinterlacer.
My 8345 has 2 frames of lag with 480p, and 4 frames of lag with 480i. The only exception that I've found so far is 240p component, which it treats as progressive with 2 frames of lag. I've been meaning to try 240p input via VGA just for the heck of it, but I don't yet have the cable to test that. Unfortunately, your projector does not support component, because in that case you could simply use an RGB-to-component transcoder and skip the upscaler altogether.
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Re: Help me choose an upscaler
measured at 24.37ms1.5 frames is 25ms, although I believe the framemeister adds around 20ms.
