Prelude to the Apocalypse

[quash]

Here's one for all those who kept insisting that nothing's going to happen in the South China Sea:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36996534

http://thediplomat.com/2016/03/south-ch ... dy-island/

Routine diplomatic maneuvers, right? Nothing to worry about. Clearly not a conduit for economic hegemony in Asia nor a key role in starting a larger conflict against NATO. Nope.

[Giest118]

Things are so crazy right now that you can't afford to be reasonable anymore. Eight years ago, I would've told you it was ridiculous to think that any presidential campaign would waste money on paying people to post on the internet; these days, you'd be paranoid to think there aren't at least a few shills on any given public forum. It's become a constant, a fact of life. And it's only going to get worse.

And you think that these paid puppets would see value in coming to a forum for a niche genre of video games that 99.9% of the population stopped giving a shit about over a decade ago, and indeed whose population isn't significantly American?

Fuck it, I'm posting this again. I'm going to do so on every page of this thread until somebody can prove that it doesn't exist.

Trump openly calls for the U.S to commit war crimes and advocates for the murder of innocent women and children.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/ ... y-members/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 12496.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/ ... -families/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/3891/trum ... n-shapiro/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ommit-war/

Trump doubles down after veterans speak out claiming U.S soldiers would not commit war crimes or torture children even if ordered to. Trump responds with, “They’re not going to refuse me. If I say do it, they’re going to do it.“
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ommit-war/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... onald-tru/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/610361/do ... war-crimes
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinio ... -0011.html
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/donal ... t-refuse-h
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/a-retir ... ar-crimes/
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/1/do ... commit_war

Trump on torture: “Even if it doesn’t work they probably deserved it anyway.”
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/opinions/ ... n-torture/
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pat ... deserve-it
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... deserve-it

Trump renews calls for torture citing public executions and mass rape committed by ISIS promising for the U.S to do the same, “fighting fire with fire.”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/t ... ng-torture

Trump says Geneva Conventions a problem and needs to be changed since, US soldiers are to afraid to do their job due to laws which outline the definition of war crimes.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop- ... 4?cmpid=sf

Trump threatens to shoot down Russian planes starting war with Russia.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-us-s ... ail-454902

Trump says he, "won’t rule out” using nuclear weapons in Europe.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 61101.html

Trump calls for a global nuclear rearmament.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... thinks-so/
http://time.com/4276960/trump-wants-to- ... ear-genie/

Trump says he would declare a World War as President.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2712682
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/07/ ... ce-france/
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/trump ... ld-war-iii

Trump's solution for high gas prices is to violate The Geneva Convention by invading several of America's allies in the Middle East and Africa unprovoked to forcibly seize the oil fields for himself.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/04 ... -iraq.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampent ... 0458db29b9

When asked for clarification about the above mentioned plan to steal land from multiple nations on two different continents Trump responded with, “We’re not stealing anything. We’re taking.“
http://content.time.com/time/specials/p ... 45,00.html

Trump says during debate he wants to invade Syria with 30,000 soldiers.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/ ... oops-isis/

Trump runs TV add promising to seize foreign oil fields.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... paign.html

Trump promises mandatory Death Penalty for anyone accused of murdering a police officer despite no legal grounds to impose that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -officers/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/politics/ ... h-penalty/

Trump thinks lethal injection is “too comfortable” Wants to devise a more painful way to execute people.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/0 ... l-justice/

The man Trump hired to write his books for him says he honestly believes Trump would start a nuclear war if president.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/ ... -tells-all

Anne Frank's sister (now 86 years old) says that Trump reminds her of Hitler.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/politics/ ... lf-hitler/

North Korean Dictator Kim Jong-Un endorses Donald Trump.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... nald-trump
http://nationalreport.net/kim-jong-un-e ... ald-trump/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... SKCN0YN35S
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2655453
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/06/ ... orth-korea

Russian leader with history of human rights abuses Vladimir Putin endorses Trump.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 08601.html
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/vlad ... ouncement/

Imam of known Islamic Terrorist (Omar Mateen) endorses Trump.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... -pro-trump

K.K.K endorses Trump.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/a-lot-o ... ses-trump/
http://www.snopes.com/2016/05/02/klan-l ... ses-trump/

Convicted Neo-Nazi Terrorist Don Black endorses Trump.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-he ... te-2015-12
http://www.nationalmemo.com/an-extremel ... ald-trump/

Chinese Communist Party endorses Trump.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... trump.html

Serbian War Criminal Vojislav Seselj endorses Trump.
http://reverbpress.com/world/trump-just ... ill-video/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... back-trump

Greek Neo-Nazi leader Ilias Panagiotaros endorses Trump.
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/8/11388844/tr ... -neo-nazis

White supremacist cult leader August Kreis III endorses Trump during sentencing hearing after he is found guilty of child molestation.
http://www.thestate.com/news/local/crim ... 49878.html

Russian Fascist Aleksandr Dugin endorses Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr ... ndorsement
https://4threvolutionarywar.wordpress.c ... der-dugin/
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11142048/du ... mp-endorse

Trump brags about endorsement from convicted murderer and repeatedly accused fraudster Don King.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... eat-system

Trump praises Iraqi Dictator Saddam Hussein.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/07/05 ... ein/211359
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/05/politics/ ... terrorism/

Trump retweets quote from Italian Dictator Benito Mussolini.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844
http://time.com/4240330/donald-trump-be ... ini-quote/
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... mussolini/

Trump uses picture of Nazi soldiers in official campaign poster.
https://news.vice.com/article/donald-tr ... ewstwitter

Trump picks famed Neo-Nazi White Supremacist Leader as Delegate.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... california
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... California
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-picks ... -delegate/

Trump's son gives interview with Holocaust denying radio show host who wants to bring back slavery. Trump then gives the radio host press credentials and invites him to events.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Polit ... _interview
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop- ... 0?lo=ap_c1
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... radio-show
http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trum ... premacist/

Trump tweets anti-Semitic Hillary Clinton picture created by Neo-Nazis.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/politics/ ... y-clinton/
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07/03/ ... nazis.html
https://mic.com/articles/147711/donald- ... .Z7LCceAS9
http://time.com/4392186/donald-trump-st ... -backlash/
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/trump- ... avid-post/

Legal Experts find dozens of Trump policy propositions that would violate the constitution. “Trump is threat to rule of law.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/us/po ... power.html

Trump Retweets message from Pro-Hitler, white genocide conspiracy Twitter account multiple times.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/t ... tm-retweet
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 ... itter-user
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-retw ... jewmerica/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2506735

Law Scholars agree, in order to enact plans Trump would have to violate First Amendment, Fifth Amendment, Bill of Rights, 14th Amendment, due process, equal protection, and the doctrine of enumerated and limited executive powers.
http://reason.com/blog/2015/11/20/donal ... he-1st-ame
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/03/donal ... nstitution

The ACLU made a list of all of Trumps unconstitutional propositions. (It’s 28 pages long.)
https://action.aclu.org/sites/default/f ... pmemos.pdf

Trump's Immigration plan unconstitutional.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/1685/no-d ... en-shapiro
https://ggulawreview.org/2016/03/30/tru ... itutional/
http://rare.us/story/why-trumps-border- ... servative/

Trump's Muslim plan unconstitutional.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /77007942/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... ms-n476041
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/12/08/is- ... itutional/
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/1 ... e-m/207420

Trump pledges to open up Libel Laws on Newspapers in order to curb Freedom of the Press.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... uld-do-it/
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/26/471846238 ... to-be-kept
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/26/media/d ... ibel-laws/
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/tru ... reporters/
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sus ... g-lawsuits
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... -amendment
http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/22/don ... ibel-laws/
http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/diaz ... 871309.php

Trump fights against separation of Church and State.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... mas-2016-1
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... dom-relig/
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/06/11/ ... ts-is.html

Trump promises to violate freedom of religion and freedom of speech to force retail workers to say Merry Christmas again.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/18/trump ... res-video/
http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-c ... -should-be

Trump argues for the repeal of the 14th Amendment (Which would allow for the creation of a government similar to the totalitarian police state from the novel Starship Troopers in which Americans could only earn their rights through loyalty to the government.)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/18/politics/ ... stitution/
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... ate-2015-8
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... hright-ci/

Co-Chair of Trump's Presidential campaign calls for black attorney general to be lynched.
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/ ... a-20160706
http://www.wgrz.com/news/racist-tweet-f ... /265174441

Top Trump ally threatens GOP delegates who won’t vote for Trump with being executed for treason.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/you-sho ... -delegate/

Senior Trump Campaign staffer calls for police to make black community leader and political opponent “disappear”
http://www.essence.com/2016/07/11/trump ... -disappear

Trump's right hand man made millions working for Arms Dealers, Dictators and War Criminals and defending them from allegations of torture and genocide.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... lobby.html
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/t ... tators-and
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... st-clients

Trump supporter arrested building pipe bombs to target Muslims.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... slims.html
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Ri ... t_BAYBrand
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Ri ... t_BAYBrand

Trump supporting ex-cop calls for, “lone-wolf patriots” to murder blacks at The GOP convention.
http://deadstate.org/ex-cop-posts-video ... onvention/

Trump supporter yells pro trump slogan before open firing and murdering 6 people.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2587675
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... mazoo.html

Trump refuses to condemn violence committed by his supporters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... SKCN0WM0RJ
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/wo ... lies-.html
http://www.japantoday.com/category/worl ... is-rallies
http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-refus ... l-rallies/
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/14/11219256/trump-violent

Trump supporters chant at rally for Hillary to be lynched.
https://newrepublic.com/article/134892/will-blood

Trump supporters shout racist/sexist/homophobic chants at rallies.
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a ... is-tweets/

Trump supporters try and ruin the life of the journalist who reported the above story.
http://imgur.com/a/rpVgP

Trump supporters send sexist/anti-semitic death threats to journalist.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/trump-s ... f-melania/
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... itic-abuse

Trump supporter physically attacks minorities at gas station.
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/ ... 03602.html
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/03/ ... rs-attack/

Trump files DMCA notices to get micropenis painting taken off the internet. Art galleries refuse to exhibit it after threats of violence from Trump supporters over the depiction.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nude-trump-p ... 38442.html

Trump supporters send death threats to artist for making aforementioned painting of Trump depicting him with a small penis.
http://observer.com/2016/04/despite-dea ... in-london/

Trump supporters track down previously mentioned artist through home address and brutally assault her.
http://hyperallergic.com/297184/trump-s ... s-drawing/
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local ... ws_twitter
http://heatst.com/politics/artist-who-p ... supporter/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... trait.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/n ... -of-his-f/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2623129

Trump encourages his supporters to use violence, again and again and again.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/0 ... len/209176
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -be-viole/
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-ra ... Tauyk_LiqK
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... vents.html
http://new.www.huffingtonpost.com/entry ... 5c91815913
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/1000000 ... lence.html
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ ... t-rallies/
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... es-n537101
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-g ... -in-court/
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 ... olence-now
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-te ... egal-fees/
http://gothamist.com/2016/03/13/donald_ ... nt_sup.php
http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11202540/trump-violent
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/ ... -violence/
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc ... 2743363967
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/03/ ... y-violence
http://gokicker.com/2016/03/14/oh-yes-d ... -evidence/
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... er-assault
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/t ... oast-coast
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture ... is_events/
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/29/massive ... alifornia/

When asked for comments on two of his supporters who brutally beat and urinated on homeless man, Trump responds by defending the men as just being “passionate”.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... panic-man/
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-trump-c ... te-1516392
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/ ... story.html
http://gothamist.com/2015/08/20/trump_ugh_enough.php
http://national.suntimes.com/national-w ... ate-crime/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rters.html

Trump defends his supporters attacking man with, “He was obnoxious maybe he should have been roughed up.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... irmingham/
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/ ... r-beating/
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/22/9778330/t ... ly-violent
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-on-bla ... oughed-up/
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-t ... up-2015-11
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vide ... bama-video

Trump tells crowd he would love to punch protesters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... -the-face/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 90981.html
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... -the-face/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/ ... lly-punch/

Trump may pay legal fees for supporters arrested for assault.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-t ... story.html

Trump supporters shout N-Word while they beat African American man so badly he’s hospitalized for concussion.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... crime.html
http://newsone.com/3292133/black-protes ... me-charge/
http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncenso ... z4BdP8m7xM

Mob of Trump supporters brutally attack meditating man for having sign saying, “America is already great.”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-tr ... est-signs/
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/watch-e ... reat-sign/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2488491

Trump claims pictures of woman savagely beaten was a Trump supporter assaulted by democrats until image revealed to have been a hoax showing actress Samara Weaving on the set of a Television show.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christiner ... l-n2174835

Trump supporters call for black man to be lynched and set on fire while shouting, “Sieg Heil!” at Trump rally.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/light-th ... rotesters/
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/15/donald_ ... r_on_fire/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... rally.html

Trump Supporter laughs while attacking peaceful protesters and reporters with pepper spray.
http://uproxx.com/news/trump-supporters ... per-spray/
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/201 ... ers-video/

Trump supporters start physical altercations and spits on Latino after being “revved up” during rally.
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/donald_ ... s_violent/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2398331

Trump supporter who beat and kicked protester charged with assault.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sault.html

Trump supporter pepper sprays a 15-year-old girl point-blank in the face after she was sexually assaulted by another Trump supporter, shouting “nigger lover” as she attempted to run away.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/trump_s ... _hometown/

Trump supporters attempt to provoke violence telling Jews to, “go back to fucking Auschwitz” and accosting black woman screaming in her face for her to “go back to Africa.”
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/198486/ ... rump-rally
http://tmznewsonline.net/donald-trump-i ... to-africa/
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/ne ... to-africa/
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 ... lack-woman
http://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-supp ... ter-rally/

Trump supporter who sucker punched protester, “Next time, we might have to kill them.”
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/ ... o-kill-him
http://thegrio.com/2016/03/10/black-pro ... y-assault/

Trump bodyguard throws veteran White House photographer to the ground and chokes him.
http://time.com/4241899/donald-trump-ra ... is-morris/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/29/politics/ ... est-rally/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... rally.html

Trump security refuses to allow black Muslim woman into event despite her having bought a ticket and being a Trump supporter. Yet let white anti-trump protesters into event. When confronted over the racism security guard says, “If I’m told by Trump’s campaign that some people can’t come in they can’t come in.”
http://eoinhiggins.com/here-come-the-br ... -campaign/

Trump brags he could murder someone and still not lose support.
http://newsone.com/3340157/donald-trump ... se-voters/

Trump holds event in Atlanta with GOP officials. Kicks the only black Republican official out of the event with no explanation.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/black-g ... planation/

Trump has dozens of black supporters ejected from his rally for no apparent reason.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bla ... 1f60ec98ba

Trump jokes about murdering reporters.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/ ... reporters/

Trump responds to questions about violence committed by his supporters with:
“People come with tremendous passion and love for their country. When they see what’s going on in this country, they have anger that’s unbelievable. They don’t like seeing bad trade deals. They don’t like seeing higher taxes. There’s some anger. There’s also great love for the country. It’s a beautiful thing in many respects.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... n-rallies/

North Carolina Authorities consider prosecuting Trump over charges of inciting a riot.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... h-inciting
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -riot.html
http://variety.com/2016/biz/news/donald ... 201729567/
http://theweek.com/speedreads/612640/do ... iting-riot
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/n-c-sheriff ... nst-trump/

Trump calls for the execution of children.
(The Central Park Five were a group of minority boys aged 13 to 16 accused of attacking and raping a white woman back in 1989.)
After buying ad space in four New York Newspapers calling for the death penalty to be brought back for these black children. Trump was quoted saying about the boys:
“They should be forced to suffer! Criminals must be told that their CIVIL LIBERTIES END WHEN AN ATTACK ON OUR SAFETY BEGINS!“ ― Donald Trump
Years later after DNA evidence proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the boys were innocent and falsely convicted Trump refused to apology for his statements claiming they were still “somehow probably guilty”
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... e-new-york
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-david ... -park-five
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... wsrc%5Etfw

Trump says if alive during World War 2 he “might have” supported the Japanese internment camps.
http://time.com/4140050/donald-trump-mu ... nternment/

Trump considers plan to replace all Muslim TSA agents.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2695675
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-t ... d=40269164

Trump wants to appoint his sister as the next Supreme Court Justice.
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/201 ... -believes/

Trump says the Chinese government "showed strength" in response to the Tienanmen Square protests in which they massacred between 250 to 3,000 civilians and peaceful protesters.
“The Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -interview

Trump calls for the execution of Edward Snowden. "Kill the Traitor"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... l-traitor/

Trump sanctions a foreign power committing espionage on The Secretary of State. (This is called High Treason)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/po ... .html?_r=0

Public Policy Polling polls Trump supporters and discovers:
60% Support banning Muslims from entering the United States (Unconstitutional)
50% Support the Confederate flag hanging on the capital grounds
30% Support shutting down all mosques in the United States (Unconstitutional)
30% Wish the South won the civil war (Treason)
25% Islam should be illegal in the United States (Unconstitutional and the best example of what a violation of the first amendment would be)
25% Support the policy of Japanese Internment (Unconstitutional)
20% Support banning homosexuals from entering the United States (Unconstitutional)
10% Say Whites are a superior race
^ (11% aren’t sure one way or another)
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/ ... _21616.pdf
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.co ... ng_the_u_s
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/02/gues ... g-america/

The Economist polls Trump supporters and discovers:
15% disapprove of slavery being abolished (Unconstitutional and morally wrong)
^ (Another 20% aren’t sure one way or another)
50% support the use of torture on foreign enemy combatants (Violates not only domestic but International Laws)
^ (Another 25% aren’t sure one way or another)
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/c ... plines.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upsho ... share&_r=2
http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

[Mischief Maker]

Hillary has received $100m+ more than Trump during this campaign alone. Let's take a quick look at some of her top donors:

Saban Capital Group $10,036,238
Renaissance Technologies $9,518,800
Pritzker Group $7,873,257
Soros Fund Management $7,044,600
Paloma Partners $6,108,400
Newsweb Corp $5,013,50

Now let's look at Trump's:

John Powers Middleton Companies $150,000
Philips International Realty $100,000
Kushner Companies $100,000
Manchester Financial Group $50,000
AON Corp $28,950
AJD Construction $25,000

Now, correct me if I'm wrong (since that is your job, after all), but it seems to me like the candidate being propped up by big banks and crony capitalists is Hillary. Am I conflating the fact that she's received millions from special interests with my feeling that this makes her at least more likely than Trump to be beholden to them? Explain to me why I am wrong to feel this way based on these facts.

Just because evil people don't support Trump doesn't mean he's good. Just because people are evil doesn't mean they can't share mutual interests with good people.

Trump lost the big money donors when he went on TV and said he might default on the National Debt. Nevermind that he later reversed himself when someone told him how stupid that was, an offhand statement like that delivered from the Oval Office desk could cause a worldwide market panic. Those exorbitant tax cuts listed on the Trump campaign's website won't be worth much if he crashes the world economy. Even less if he gives Putin the thumbs up to send tanks into Estonia and set off WWIII.

So the evil donors are settling for a smaller tax cut under Hillary, and I'm settling for a president who won't reduce the planet to a smoldering radioactive cinder. Nobody's happy this campaign.

And frankly those evil businessmen, for all their evil, know enough about business to see that six bankrupted companies are not the hallmark of an effective manager. Trump's a great reality TV star, but so was Snooki.

[BryanM]

bitiful

[Giest118]

So what we seem to have in this election, according to each opposing side, is Corporate Supervillain and Serial Killer, Hillary "Asmodeus" Clinton, versus Thin-Skinned Dumbass Sociopath and Shitty Businessman, Donald "Dumpy Trumps" Trump.

So let's think here. If I was corporate supervillain Hillary Clinton, and I was handed the presidency, I would...
* Make a bunch of money off of special interests, like a boss.
* Do about 20% of what I promised so that it's not too obvious I'm just fucking with everybody. I would then blame the tribalistic morons of the Republican party for the missing 80%.
* Bathe in my bathtub of money with Katy Perry, not allowing Bill to join in because fuck that guy.

Now if I was Dumpy Trumps and I was handed the presidency, my day would consist of...
* Determining the day's activities with some dice. The dice have complimentary phrases like "THE BEST" and "HUGE" instead of dots.
* Posting the nuclear launch codes on Twitter just to prove I had them, thus quieting all the haters who didn't think I could be trusted with nuclear launch codes.
* Random terrorists use my launch codes, that I posted to Twitter, to kill everyone.
* The end.

I can sort of understand the appeal of the latter scenario. Hillary can't engage in corporate supervillainy if everyone's dead.

[Bitter Almonds]

We are fucked with shrillary...

[Giest118]

Yeah, she is so going to war with those guys, you have no idea.

Would you fuckers get your story straight, please?

[EmperorIng]

Just because people are evil doesn't mean they can't share mutual interests with good people.

George Soros proves that you can be evil AND not share mutual interests with good people, and be a billionaire, all in one go.

[Durandal]

Because that's what happens when you spend millions on infiltrating every corner of the internet, silly. Once word of this gets out, all anyone has to say to shut down your supporters is that they're being paid to do so. And, really, how can you prove that you aren't?

youre failing to see the bigger picture here....
The only reason this years election has the second-least and third least likeable demihuman beings as presidential candidates is because of years and years and years of subtle subversion and manipulation of the media, education, art, and society, finally paying off. everywhere around us we are less encouraged to think for ourselves, but instead rely on other outlets to shape our opinions... The average IQ of all human being is steadily increasing according to reasearchers, but would a nation with a higher IQ nominate donald Trump and Hillary Clinton? I think not, friend... The only possible conclusion to conclude is that these results are merely doctored in order to fool us sheep into thinking we are getting smarter, but that could be less true. DSA (Divided states of America) politics have slowly mutated into 1 big circus where its more about spectacle and promises than deeds and demonstration of ability. So has the average voter begun to think in more black and white terms fed lies by the internet, and everywhere you see everyone is divided by another great Issue perpetuated by politicians

The truth is that these Issues do not matter at all in the grand scheme.. they merely exist to distract the population from the real issues caused by bankers, goverment agents, and Corporation, all of which have ties to Israël and seedy Corporate groups. by dividing everyone, all sense of unity is destroyed, people are desparate to belong somewhere and get into fights to protect their identity. so will people grow tired of the fighting, and retreat to their own shells living in their own world free from pointless suffering while consuming Corporate products to make their fantasy reality. and so will Corporate profit off the conflicts of those who believe their pawns, and those who seek respite. The Corporations don't need to spend money on shilling, because we are already doing it for them. through subliminimal messages on the internet and media, so-called "Memes", ideas will spread like virii and influence the behavior of us. subconcsiously we are already aiding the decline by playing VideoGames and discussing subjects without any consequences like they want us to while spreading "Memes" ourselves. Corporate is slowly overthrowing our governments and change the world into a Corpocracy. First Japen, then America and Ireland next
All of this, just for Corporate profit...

Don’t believe me? It’s all in the numbers. For a hundred years, there’s been a conspiracy of plutocrats against ordinary people.
Number one: In 1945, corporations paid 50 percent of federal taxes. Now they pay about 5 percent. Number two: in 1900, 90 percent of Americans were self-employed; now it’s about two percent.
It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.
The entire executive branch is hand-picked. Nineteen of the last twenty-three U.S. presidents have been members of the Trilateral Commission. The Trilateral Commission is financed by the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.

human beings must learn to love eachother again and live in peace to escape those who seek to control us through toying with our feelings. we must fight back and show them the true human spirit.
furthermore, i consider that Israël must be destroyed.......

[Specineff]

https://youtu.be/Kj4XenU6tyI?t=1m37s

[BryanM]

More than 50% of the country living in poverty, "America is great and has always been great."

Melomys rubicola first confirmed mammal to go extinct thanks to climate change, with homo sapiens scheduled very very soon in the cosmic order, let's give tax breaks on passive income streams to stimulate growth.

[Bitter Almonds]

shrillary: Placing profits over people. That's how she would rule the US.

[BulletMagnet]

First off, I assume that your feelings that things are "so crazy" aren't limited to the ways Hillary is spending her campaign money, but what the heck, let's go ahead and zero in on that for now...

Hillary's campaign has raised, and spent, roughly $6 million on having people post favorably for her on the internet.

I'm not sure why you're treating this as such a clandestine thing, the PAC has a website. Moreover, at least according to its mission statement, it doesn't pay people to repeatedly type "Hillary Is Great!" wherever they go, but rather to look for incorrect statements about her on social media and correct them. I'm not on any social media so I haven't experienced any of their shenanigans firsthand (then again, that's just what you'd expect a stealth Hillary operative to say, right? ), but they've got a busload of facts (or, to translate it into your lingua franca, "facts") listed on the aforementioned site, so feel free to peruse them at your leisure and call out whichever ones are incorrect. I'm sure you're a lot more up on this sort of thing than a soulless political gigolo like myself.

By the way, still waiting for your answer on why Trump's citation of the "out of workforce" numbers is total bullshit.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong (since that is your job, after all), but it seems to me like the candidate being propped up by big banks and crony capitalists is Hillary. Am I conflating the fact that she's received millions from special interests with my feeling that this makes her at least more likely than Trump to be beholden to them? Explain to me why I am wrong to feel this way based on these facts.

It never fails to amaze me how hesitant you are to take into account the actual things the candidates have proposed...then again, you're supporting a nominee whom you're actively counting on to go back on half the things he says (only the stuff you don't like, of course, everything else he'll totally keep, for sure), so I suppose the sky's the limit here.

But hell, let's try again, just on the ground floor, taxes: even in very basic, non-specific summary form, Clinton proposes tax hikes on the very wealthy (albeit not nearly as much as I'd like to see), including via closing Wall Street loopholes, and an increase in breaks and benefits to the lower end of the scale (she specifically mentions small businesses, though Trump claims out of the blue that she wants them to pay a 50 percent tax rate; just the sort of thing some kind of, oh, I don't know, online fact-checker might be warranted for, wouldn't you say? ). Trump (whose site, at least at a glance, doesn't even have a dedicated section on taxes) on the other hand, wants to slash taxes across the board to the tune of several trillion dollars (previous revision was 10, not sure if anyone's crunched the numbers on the latest one), with the vast majority of the cuts going to the very rich and big businesses, and place a temporary moratorium on ALL new regulations when he steps into office. In otherwords, pretty much exactly what you'd expect out of a modern "centrist" liberal and "pro-business" conservative platform, respectively. Oh, but just to say it again, only one of them has deigned to release their own tax returns to the plebes.

Again, of course, none of this matters, because you already believe that both of them are lying through their teeth, but only Trump is doing so in a good way. More wasted breath on the likes of you.

Because that's what happens when you spend millions on infiltrating every corner of the internet, silly. Once word of this gets out, all anyone has to say to shut down your supporters is that they're being paid to do so. And, really, how can you prove that you aren't?

In otherwords, you've convinced yourself that the latest Alex Jones special is true (by the way, that crying baby at his rally that Trump didn't even actually kick out? Totally a plant! ), and thus by figuring out the latest Big Secret you've suddenly stumbled upon (no pun intended) a magical trump card for anything and everything anybody says that could possibly paint your candidate in a worse light or his opposition in a better one. Despite being completely ignorant of the most obvious retort in the world: How can Trump prove he isn't secretly spending money to make himself look better? And that YOU aren't on HIS payroll?! It can't be done! I win! I don't have to listen to you anymore!

I'll say it one more time: both you and your candidate of choice are woefully unprepared for participatory democracy, and neither of you see the slightest problem with that. Sorry folks, I'm out.

[Ikaruga11]

Domestic and foreign terrorism will increase exponentially if Hillary is elected.

[Giest118]

Human extinction will become true if Trump is elected.

[quash]

I'll say it one more time: both you and your candidate of choice are woefully unprepared for participatory democracy

I could spend time ripping apart every last bit of your post, but this is the thing that really bothers me. You've said time and again that anyone who supports Trump "isn't ready for participatory democracy", but what do you actually mean by that? What makes them unqualified, and more importantly, what makes you qualified to judge them?

For what it's worth, Trump won his nomination by popular vote alone, whereas Hillary had to stack nearly all of her party's superdelegates to close the deal. Last I checked, the only qualification necessary to vote is being a registered, voting age citizen (though if liberals had their way, they would even remove that barrier, as they're currently trying to in California).

So are you suggesting that the US adopt a different system that voters don't have as much control over? Can I expect another rationalization along the lines of the candidate being supported by some of the richest people on the planet not being in league with them? You should try taking a definite stance instead of deflecting my points with red herrings and making obtuse statements with little to no context.

[Giest118]

I could spend time ripping apart every last bit of your post

So do it, then. If you can convince me that I am a cylon for Hillary, I will accept God Emperor Trump forever.

[quash]

Quick and dirty: CTR is posting everywhere on the internet, not just social media. His clever retort is actually stupid because there's nothing secret about it: it is a well documented and public facing organization. Trump has no such dedicated shitposting PAC because he can achieve everything he wants to in this arena on his Twitter account.

As for his economic policy, it just came out recently that he's on board with a plan similar to what house Republicans were proposing: three tax brackets with the highest paying 33℅. It's almost as if I said this would happen earlier.

I could go further but I don't have time right now. I really do want to hear about how one can be "qualified for participatory democracy" according to some guy on the internet.

[Giest118]

You failed to convince me that I'm a paid shill. I'm disappointed.

I could go further but I don't have time right now. I really do want to hear about how one can be "qualified for participatory democracy" according to some guy on the internet.

I'm going to guess that his response will involve one or more comparisons to syphilitic gibbons.

[BulletMagnet]

You've said time and again that anyone who supports Trump "isn't ready for participatory democracy", but what do you actually mean by that?

If I really need to explain it again, here you go: both you and your chosen candidate not only refuse to base your actions and decisions on available facts, but go well beyond even that, to the point where you openly deny that objective information, let alone an objective standpoint on any issue, even exists. "Truth", as you apparently see it, is determined only by how strongly you happen to believe in it and/or how loudly and repeatedly you say it - and if you've convinced yourself that everyone's suddenly out to get white males like you, and that political correctness is their weapon of choice, and that addressing this "issue" is the key to solving pretty much everything, it's become painfully clear that no argument, no data set, no historical perspective will ever change your mind. And that degree of know-nothing obstinance is complete anathema to how democracy, or any manner of societal progress whatsoever, is supposed to function.

Once you've boarded that particular train there's literally no limit to what you can consider "true" - if the "facts" don't conform to what you already "know", the facts must be wrong, because someone screwed with them to keep all those silly sheep off the trail, but you're just too smart for that! Not only can you pull random numbers out of thin air with no regard to whether they add up, you can conjure up fantastical stories and scenarios that boggle the mind, and if they suddenly stop being beneficial and/or interesting to you, you simply act like you never said them, and poof, they're just gone, forever! No corrections, no consequences, just move right on to the next one, while those silly geese in the reality-based community struggle to keep up.

Anything is possible in Imaginationland - only problem is the rest of the world doesn't live there, and sure as hell doesn't cast votes from there. Once you choose to abandon even the mere pretense of objectivity and delight in spitting in the face of logical thought, you abandon civilized society - if not sapient humanity - along with it. You do indeed have the right to cast your vote, but your thoughts and actions, and their intended recipient, are, to be perfectly blunt, nothing short of an affront to everything that vote is supposed to stand for.

[quash]

So anyone who doesn't fall rank and file with your social dogma isn't qualified to vote, because voicing your views, no matter how controversial they may be to society at large, through the ballot is antithetical to what democracy stands for according to you.

The irony of the American left accusing Trump supporters of basing their views on feelings over facts isn't lost on me, but apparently it is on you and many others here.

[quash]

Keep in mind that shills primarily serve two purposes: to interfere with direct exchange of ideas (hence why BM is always trying to change the subject to something of relative unimportance) and to demoralize the opposition (which is why he's trying to guilt trip anyone reading this thread into not voting for Trump).

I don't care if everyone here votes for Hillary, writes in Bernie, or does whatever else they deem fit to do with their ballot. Wipe your ass with it for all I care. I'm just here to provide the type of perspective that the media and indeed, society at large doesn't want you to see.

[ED-057]

FLY! DONALD

も、え、あ、が、れ
もえあがれ
燃え上がれ トランプ
君よ 走れ
まだ 怒りに燃える 闘志があるなら
巨大な敵を 討てよ 討てよ 討てよ
正義の怒りを ぶつけろ トランプ
狂人戦士 トランプ
トランプ

[ED-057]

Why isn't the lamestream media talking about Jill Stein's sex tape?

[BulletMagnet]

So anyone who doesn't fall rank and file with your social dogma isn't qualified to vote, because voicing your views, no matter how controversial they may be to society at large, through the ballot is antithetical to what democracy stands for according to you.

There's no way in hell you're actually this thick, but I'll keep playing along: the problem, once again, is that casting a ballot is supposed to be - has to be, for democracy to function - an informed decision, but the only way to make anything resembling a case in favor of a Trump vote is to outright reject reality...and to frame that self-serving rejection as "an alternate perspective the media doesn't want you to see".

Keep in mind that shills primarily serve two purposes: to interfere with direct exchange of ideas (hence why quash attempts to delegitimize all inconvenient facts by accusing anyone who posts them of being a paid Clinton shill) and to demoralize the opposition (which is why he repeatedly insists that a vote for Clinton, no matter the logical reasoning behind it, is still a vote for Satan).

There's also no way you didn't detect the massive irony bomb that went off the second you posted that.

By the way, another way to "interfere with the direct exchange of ideas" is to outright ignore even the simplest of questions posed to you: still waiting for your answer on Trump's bullshit citation from several posts ago.

One last thing before I get on with my day - the fact that you'd so much as lend voice to the notion that Hillary would be sending clandestine operatives all the way out to this incredibly tiny, incredibly obscure corner of the internet to "poison the waters" is enough by itself to display just how willfully far removed from reality you are, before you even take note of the fact that I've been a member here for fifteen years now, and have spent the vast, vast majority of that time discussing things that have nothing to do with any manner of politics. So tell me, at what point did the Clinton Mafia "get to" me? I'd love to hear your rendition of this tale - and if whatever you pull out of your backside this time doesn't sound convincing enough, just claim that "people are saying" it.

[BryanM]

Why isn't the lamestream media talking about Jill Stein's sex tape?

Jill Stein is seen as a Hillary spoiler. Johnson is seen as a Trump spoiler. Ergo, they'll talk about Johnson at least a hundred times more often than Stein.

Looking at a dozen major print, digital, and television outlets, we found that stories centered on Johnson jumped from just six in June 2012 to 69 during the same month in 2016.

What a mystery.

And of course no matter who you vote for, the machines will mysteriously register more Clinton votes than exit polling indicates she got.

Maybe they were right. If voting mattered, They wouldn't let you do it.

[HenAi]

So anyone who doesn't fall rank and file with your social dogma isn't qualified to vote, because voicing your views, no matter how controversial they may be to society at large, through the ballot is antithetical to what democracy stands for according to you.

There's no way in hell you're actually this thick, but I'll keep playing along: the problem, once again, is that casting a ballot is supposed to be - has to be, for democracy to function - an informed decision, but the only way to make anything resembling a case in favor of a Trump vote is to outright reject reality...and to frame that self-serving rejection as "an alternate perspective the media doesn't want you to see".

The definition of what constitutes an informed decision is the problem with your argument.
Let's take global warming. If I vote for someone who says global warming isn't real because (insert bogus studies and false experts), am I making an informed decision? Not if I want to decide based on current scientific understanding. But if I don't actually care about the truth of the matter, want no changes in policy and just someone to tell me that's it all going to be alright, then I certainly am making an informed decision with that choice.

Your argument only works if you assume that everyone's working with more or less the same basic values and goals. Which just isn't the case - which, in turn, is the biggest reason we need democracy at all.

[Giest118]

It's the difference between one's opinions being informed by facts, and one's opinions being informed by their other opinions.

[BryanM]

But if I don't actually care about the truth of the matter, want no changes in policy and just someone to tell me that's it all going to be alright, then I certainly am making an informed decision with that choice.

For some reason, a whack job calling it a Chinese hoax is somehow more reassuring than someone admitting it's real, but we're not gonna try to do anything about it.

We go extinct at the same exact year either way, I know, but hey.

[ED-057]

that casting a ballot is supposed to be - has to be, for democracy to function - an informed decision

Stop with this nonsense already.

If anyone who wasn't a complete idiot had any input into the presidential race whatsoever, then we wouldn't even have this thread now would we?

"Informed decision." Hmph.