Prelude to the Apocalypse

[Specineff]

Oh, those racists reporters and incompetent staff members! Why do you want to make The Savior Of America look so bad? Haven't you drunk enough innocent blood already? It's all their fault, making it look like he said stuff he said!

[BulletMagnet]

More evidence of just how unfairly poor Donald has been treated when it comes to the Trump U proceedings.

[quash]

He's waiting to publicly state the judge's connections to La Raza and the Clinton Foundation to foster distrust for the media. Be patient.

[antron]

Which La Raza? And please tell us about the Clinton foundation connection. It's likely that I'm going to get to show you two places where you have been misinformed.

[Specineff]

Not the National Council For La Raza, but the La Raza Lawyers of California. No connection, as they aren't the same. Still, to assume that Judge Curiel's ancestry creates a bias against Truculent Trump because of his wall (wasn't the case against Trump U filed before he announced his candidacy?), would be the same as saying that Trump's German ancestry makes him biased against the Jewish.

[antron]

The wait is over!

“I do not intend to comment on this matter any further,” Trump said in a written statement

http://jamiedupree.blog.ajc.com/2016/06 ... sity-case/

But yes, he does slam the media. In general. Like he does every day.

[BryanM]

The Digg's predictions for tonight.

Bernie will win California because, despite the total futility of their efforts, his supporters just want it more. You saw it last week when Bernie Bros hurled eggs at Trump supporters in San Jose. You saw it this weekend when Bill Clinton was assaulted by middle fingers and shouts of “war criminal” and “fracking” in Los Angeles. A person who would wake up early, put on a balaclava, and drive 50 miles just to throw eggs and rude words at politicians and their supporters is someone who would certainly cast a ballot.

[quash]

would be the same as saying that Trump's German ancestry makes him biased against the Jewish.

Must've missed his speech at AIPAC.

[quash]

The wait is over!

Unless he's actually listening to his advisors on this (like he has on a few other things recently), this is just the pre-announcement. His way of baiting the media into trying to get more out of him. When they get it, they won't know what hit them.

[Rob]

Must've missed his speech at AIPAC.

I wish I had.

Believe me believe me believe me believe me.

[Ed Oscuro]

The Digg's predictions for tonight.

Bernie will win California because, despite the total futility of their efforts, his supporters just want it more. You saw it last week when Bernie Bros hurled eggs at Trump supporters in San Jose. You saw it this weekend when Bill Clinton was assaulted by middle fingers and shouts of “war criminal” and “fracking” in Los Angeles. A person who would wake up early, put on a balaclava, and drive 50 miles just to throw eggs and rude words at politicians and their supporters is someone who would certainly cast a ballot.

I love the public service this site is doing. Their "5 ways Obama could personally try to take your gun" is very informative.

[BulletMagnet]

Footnote time: while most of the huffing and puffing over Trump's temper tantrum over Judge Curiel is in regards to his "Mexican" statement and related verbal drool, the more (IMO, at least) pertinent story here, which has been largely lost on the hopeless simps who are supposed to be covering it (another example of Trump masterfully controlling the media narrative, right? ), is the fact that, by and large, Curiel's rulings up to this point in the case have been very friendly to Trump's side. Naturally, a single contrary decision is enough to make a guy who insists he has the temperament to lead the country totally and very publicly lose it, (re-)revealing him for the petty, spoiled crybaby he is...exactly the sort of thing people who (supposedly) support him based almost entirely on his personal characteristics instead of his laugh-worthy proposals probably ought to be aware of.

Of course, out here in The Media is So Unfair To Me World, this'll be circular-filed right next to his utterly shameful "birther" nonsense (so, what exactly did your crack agents discover when you sent them to Hawaii? We're waiting), he'll keep blubbering and thundering about how terribly put-upon he is whenever anything pertinent threatens to sneak out, and those big fat ad dollars will keep right on rolling in.

EDIT: A similar take on the "Pocahontas" nonsense and its pseudo-response here.

[quash]

The latest shooting in Orlando has basically guaranteed a Trump victory. Use all the logical gymnastics to blame this on him you want, people are going to vote for him in droves come November. When he's the only candidate that makes it clear that Islamic terrorism is a threat, you're giving people no other choice.

[Mischief Maker]

The latest shooting in Orlando has basically guaranteed a Trump victory. Use all the logical gymnastics to blame this on him you want, people are going to vote for him in droves come November. When he's the only candidate that makes it clear that Islamic terrorism is a threat, you're giving people no other choice.

Yeah, because his spiritual predecessor George Bush jr. was so successful at de-escalating the threat of terrorism.

What's so weird about this campaign is that everyone has strong opinions about candidates, but nobody seems to actually look at the positions stated on their websites or their voting record (if applicable).

But that's okay, he's got the best people from Bush jr's administration to tell him how to actually go about delivering on his terrorism-stopping promises. He's got the greatest record on keeping his promises to his investors.

[BryanM]

Oh goody. When pressed on whether to love the shooter because he killed gay people or hate him because he was brown, they default to sudden mysterious unity. Must be an election year.



Sigh. Four more years of listening to people whining about the huge cocks of minorities. Stop lobbying for Hillary Clinton Quash. You're making her look good. And that's supposed to be impossible.

Stop lobbying for Hillary Clinton republicans. You're making her look good.

And thus this is how lesser evilism is kept in balance and neoliberalism continues forward unmolested.

[BulletMagnet]

The latest shooting in Orlando has basically guaranteed a Trump victory.

You're as classy as he is.

[quash]

What's so weird about this campaign is that everyone has strong opinions about candidates, but nobody seems to actually look at the positions stated on their websites or their voting record (if applicable).

Trust me, I've done plenty of research on the main ones. I've said numerous times that Trump isn't perfect, but he does have the right idea on the most important issues.

Sigh. Four more years of listening to people whining about the huge cocks of minorities.

It's always dicks with you.

And thus this is how lesser evilism is kept in balance and neoliberalism continues forward unmolested.

Trump is many things, but a neoliberal (at least in terms of foreign policy) he is not.

You're as classy as he is.

Well jeez, maybe if the shooter was white we'd be treated to the Huffington Post grandstanding on gun control and about how mentally ill white men are instead. I'm sure they had an article about how Islam isn't somehow intrinsically connected to anti-Western terrorism before the corpses were cold.

It amazes me that we're a year out and people still fail to see that Trump has positioned himself as the antithetical other to conventional politics. It is not necessarily Trump's amazing ideas that have propelled his success, but rather the colossal failures of neoliberalism.

[Rob]

The latest shooting in Orlando has basically guaranteed a Trump victory.

Why, cuz you think Americans are totally dumb?

What has happened in Orlando is just the beginning. Our leadership is weak and ineffective. I called it and asked for the ban. Must be tough

He "asked for the ban" on what exactly? This guy is/was a US citizen.

[Specineff]

It amazes me that we're a year out and people still fail to see that Trump has positioned himself as the antithetical other to conventional politics. It is not necessarily Trump's amazing ideas that have propelled his success, but rather the colossal failures of neoliberalism.

Horse manure VS pig manure. Still manure.

[quash]

Why, cuz you think Americans are totally dumb?

More specifically because this happened in Florida.

[GaijinPunch]

The latest shooting in Orlando has basically guaranteed a Trump victory.

Why, cuz you think Americans are totally dumb?

I've said numerous times that Trump isn't perfect, but he does have the right idea on the most important issues.

[quash]

The dumb people are the ones voting for the biggest neolib/neocon shill in the history of the US and expecting any kind of improvement.

[BulletMagnet]

Well jeez, maybe if the shooter was white we'd be treated to the Huffington Post grandstanding on gun control and about how mentally ill white men are instead.

Dude, seriously, get a clue; if you think white men are under anywhere near as much of a microscope as Muslims when it comes to matters like this, you need to open a window once in awhile. Moreover, if Obama or Hillary had so much as attempted to bring gun control back into this they would have been flayed alive for "politicizing the tragedy" (hell, they're already being blamed for the fact that it happened in the first place); poor put-upon Trump (and, by extension, poor put-upon you), of course, gets a total pass.

I'm sure they had an article about how Islam isn't somehow intrinsically connected to anti-Western terrorism before the corpses were cold.

The article you linked isn't an editorial, it's a quote from the shooter's father, without any commentary attached. Though of course you're already well-planted in the self-affirmingly theoretical realm anyway ("They totally did, I KNOW they did, even though they didn't actually print it for some reason!"), and show no desire whatsoever to step outside it, so I'm not sure what you even expect to gain from putting your thoughts out there for others to see in the first place, since it sure as hell isn't "conversation" in any meaningful sense of the word.

neoliberalism

Seems someone has a new favorite word!

[quash]

Dude, seriously, get a clue; if you think white men are under anywhere near as much of a microscope as Muslims when it comes to matters like this, you need to open a window once in awhile.

Perhaps, but you seem to be forgetting the coverage of Sandy Hook, or the most glaring instance of the media being caught waist deep in a lie, the Zimmerman case.

Moreover, if Obama or Hillary had so much as attempted to bring gun control back into this they would have been flayed alive for "politicizing the tragedy" (hell, they're already being blamed for the fact that it happened in the first place); poor put-upon Trump (and, by extension, poor put-upon you), of course, gets a total pass.

Or it could be that they've already tried multiple times and failed, and realized that this hill isn't worth dying on just yet.

Interesting comparison here of how the main political figures responded. Note how Obama, Hillary, and Bernie were quick to make this about how they're so accepting of gays and how there's so many gay allies. I guess that's not self righteous in the slightest. Perhaps they'd care to explain why they shamelessly protect a religion that (violently) flies in the face of the very values they signal the loudest?

The article you linked isn't an editorial, it's a quote from the shooter's father, without any commentary attached.

Because at this point it goes without saying that the majority of the media is going to be quick to remind us that Muslims are somehow the real victims. All they need anymore is a flimsy testimonial from someone related to the attacker.

Seems someone has a new favorite word!

Neoliberalism and neoconservatism are two sides of the same coin. The former focuses more on domestic policy, the latter on foreign policy. Take your pick as to which you'd prefer to use.

Does this in any way make Hillary Clinton any less of a shill? Or are you just desperately trying to discredit me?

[GaijinPunch]

Moreover, if Obama or Hillary had so much as attempted to bring gun control back into this they would have been flayed alive for "politicizing the tragedy" (hell, they're already being blamed for the fact that it happened in the first place); poor put-upon Trump (and, by extension, poor put-upon you), of course, gets a total pass.

Or it could be that they've already tried multiple times and failed, and realized that this hill isn't worth dying on just yet.

How hard did you hit your head on your padded walls?

[quash]

Funny how the people with nothing to contribute other than a vain attempt to make me look stupid are the ones who grasp at the stupidest of arguments. I might have to coin a phrase for this.

[EmperorIng]

It was strange and disheartening to read about the man's wife leaving him months after her [abusive] marriage, and his father being an ardent nationalist and Taliban supporter (and appearing in military uniform on videos calling for the arrest of the Afghan government). Though on that latter point it doesn't appear that he has been in the country for decades.

It has struck me as an odd pattern that the origin of homegrown Muslim extremists seem like many come from middle-class backgrounds.

Maybe if you have ample time to sit around a computer you have ample time to read extremist propaganda/forums/chatrooms? Something about idle minds and devilish playgrounds?

Moreover, if Obama or Hillary had so much as attempted to bring gun control back into this they would have been flayed alive for "politicizing the tragedy"

I take it you didn't listen to the president's speech. I'm skeptical though because the man apparently had an explosive vest as well, which means even absenting the gun he could have killed a great deal many people.

I'm trying to resolve to stay away from the barking noises of the news and social media after events like this. On one hand you have twitter/fb grandstanding and soapboxing*, or on the news you have idiots like that one congressman or senator who said it's actually congress's fault, and the litany of platitudes and faux expressions of anger. It's too much. Too much white noise.

*my favorite (?) two examples, paraphrased:

"Congress has passed 200 anti-gay laws. The shooter isn't the problem, you are for creating him."
"straight people, this is the type of fear the LGBTQ community has to live with everyday. you have no excuse."

[Mischief Maker]

The left avoiding criticism of Islam isn't that hard to figure out.

It's the same reason the left avoids criticizing any unpopular minority.

The left avoids criticizing Islam because it doesn't trust the right not to grab that ball and run with it to an ugly place.

[GaijinPunch]

Funny how the people with nothing to contribute other than a vain attempt to make me look stupid are the ones who grasp at the stupidest of arguments. I might have to coin a phrase for this.

It was your stupid argument that was grabbed at.

[BryanM]

Notice whenever anyone talks about Islam they're not talking about people who look like this:



Which makes up like 2/3rds of all Muslims.

We all know it's about race (as well as a focus on their hairy menfolk while their ladyfolk are glossed over or considered subhuman and ugly), in a very tiny concentrated area between Africa and Asia. It's no different than bitching about the "dirty catholics" (aka, the Irish) invading our country and impregnating our womenfolk with their large donkey penises (which we totally have, by the way. We're more horse than man, srsly).

And if it wasn't them, it'd be someone else we'd be at war with. There's a lot of money put into our military, they expect a return on their investment.

Thankfully, Donald Trump has promised to murder their families, torture if it doesn't work, and take their oil. No more laying down on the job. God bless'em!