Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

For judgment day, it doesn't feel like anything special does it.

Though in absolute terms of mortality, today will ultimately kill far more people than a few nuclear bombs set off in major cities.

Guess our monkey brains just aren't wired to think in such abstract terms.

[EmperorIng]

I'm starting to worry about what's in the water in Oklahoma.

[BryanM]

In honor of today, let's reflect on what huge creepy jerkasses Kyle Reese and John Conner are:

* Kyle gets a photograph his boss's mom from his boss.
* Kyle falls in lust for his boss's mom. Perhaps there are no women in the future?
* Kyle bangs his boss's mom after knowing her for less than 40 minutes.

Further:

John cries out for help in a dark alley. A street thug thinks to himself "holy shit, is that kid getting raped by that huge dude in this dark alley?" and heroically risks his own life and offers to help. John then tells him to go fuck himself.

Skynet Was Right.

[BryanM]

I'm starting to worry about what's in the water in Oklahoma.

True or false:

Today is the day that the complete genocide of the Gaza strip is 100% assured.

[BIL]

John cries out for help in a dark alley. A street thug thinks to himself "holy shit, is that kid getting raped by that huge dude in this dark alley?" and heroically risks his own life and offers to help. John then tells him to go fuck himself.

Yeah to be fair though he revealed his upstanding character by stopping Ahnuld from killing the guys, rather than greenlighting the execution and then helping himself to their warm butts. Character development!

[quash]

nevah forget 7/11 ya beta commie cucks lot

Ah France, never change. You gotta love a nation whose foreign policy is largely decided by which side of the bed their PM woke up on today, or how much the defense secretary enjoyed his wine this morning.

Deep down, you're just jealous that even your terror attacks aren't as awesome as ours. It's alright, let it all out.

[Squire Grooktook]

[BulletMagnet]

I don't see any other reasonable explanation for phenomena such as socialist dogma, white guilt, etc. Perhaps you'd like to provide a different line of reasoning?

The best guess I have is that you have a much more generous definition of "self-hatred" than I do; apparently because I don't consider my race/gender/sexual orientation/etc. "under attack" by all those scary Other People, and moreover acknowledge that Other People have at times had a harder go of it thanks to actions taken by Folks Like Me, that must mean I despise myself and everyone like me. To put it mildly, that would be news to me.

Which I presume is why you want to put a socialist (but a democratic one, so it's cool) in the White House? Because socialism in any capacity has always been wildly successful?

Social Security and Medicare seem to be doing pretty well, all things considered (and before you uncork the ol' "the trust fund is a big pile of IOUs" chestnut, remember that 1) It's an incredibly easy fix, if anyone would dare to suggest that more than one's first 100K of earnings should pay into it, and 2) The only reason it's in the state it's in is because Reagan decided it was A-O-K to raid it to pay for his upper-end tax cuts). Or do I also need to dust off the figures of how much less the rest of the "advanced" world pays for medical care than we do, often with better results than we get? To be clear, I'm not in favor of deep-sixing capitalism wholesale (to be even clearer, neither is anybody), but I would argue that there are a number of areas where the free market has failed to do its job, and that it's the duty of the government to step in if it can - or does - do better.

...dismissing the issues with illegal crime, or as you might be claiming, "the whites are really the bad guys, honestly!"

Please rest assured (or, more likely, disappointed) that this is not, in fact, what I'm claiming; nor do I claim that illegal immigration/crime is not a problem. What I DO claim is that those painting it as the number one this-changes-everything threat to our society (well, second to Political Correctness), or, even more ludicrously, a deliberate attack on our society, are either woefully misinformed or inexcusably dishonest; as I mentioned earlier and you semi-acknowledge in your own post, if business owners followed the law they claim to love so much and refused to hire illegal immigrants there wouldn't even be such immigration, or at the very least it wouldn't occur on anywhere near the "panic-inducing" scale it does now. But notice that efforts to "rein in" illegal immigration NEVER focus on the literal business end of the deal; it's ALWAYS about hunting down those creepy foreigners one by one (who, of course, are all living like kings off the government and laughing at the stupid gringos who let them do it). At the very least, this is an incredibly inefficient and ineffective way to fight all the problems you listed (also, as you mention, most of the illegals here don't even sneak across the border, they just let their visas expire, but try to get that through the skull of most "build the wall" cheerleaders); if you dare to take things a step further, sorry, but it does suggest some very ugly priorities on the part of the people who are supposed to be the most gung-ho about "doing something about it".

Not to speak of the ongoing shadow war between Trump and Soros & co.; do you really think Trump didn't attend that rally in Chicago out of concern for safety?

Sorry, we're getting a little too close to "Vince Foster was murdered!" territory here for my tastes.

[Xyga]

nevah forget 7/11 ya beta commie cucks lot

Ah France, never change. You gotta love a nation whose foreign policy is largely decided by which side of the bed their PM woke up on today, or how much the defense secretary enjoyed his wine this morning.

Deep down, you're just jealous that even your terror attacks aren't as awesome as ours. It's alright, let it all out.

Trash candidate gotta have trash supporters.

Whatever policy our goverment makes doesn't interest me, it's become insignificant and weak compared to the largely US lobbies-sold and intelligence-influenced decisions the EU makes, but every times the USA take a big fat dump wherever on Earth, you bet we get the smell and the stains.

I don't see how having a bunch of narcissistic racist populist cretins rule the USA and spread an even nastier influence over the world than it already did, would not make the future of our world worse, it'll be just another thing to increase the size of that dark cloud over my own country.

Frankly, it's because of people like Trump and his supporters like you that I lose faith in humanity. The basis of what you are ideologically and politically, is resentment towards everything that doesn't obey your extremely narrow vision of humanity, and the desire to eradicate those you think don't belong in your clean American WASP ideal.
You're actually the PC~ish version of fanaticism and fascism. Yup, you're PC.

WTF have you done GOP ?

[quash]

The best guess I have is that you have a much more generous definition of "self-hatred" than I do; apparently because I don't consider my race/gender/sexual orientation/etc. "under attack" by all those scary Other People, and moreover acknowledge that Other People have at times had a harder go of it thanks to actions taken by Folks Like Me, that must mean I despise myself and everyone like me. To put it mildly, that would be news to me.

Sounds like a standard equation for self-loathing to me. As if "Other People" didn't cause plenty problems of their own before "Folks Like Me" came along. Not to say they were never taken advantage of, but if you're a realist about things you would acknowledge that given reversed roles, they would do the same thing, and probably with much less mercy than we had. Go research China's moves in Africa right now and you'll see what I mean.

Social Security and Medicare seem to be doing pretty well

Social Security is doing so well that none of us will be able to use it. And if Medicare was so great, why did Obama feel the need to reform healthcare?

It's an incredibly easy fix

Sure, if you're willing to overlook how politicians across the entire spectrum have willingly drained it for their own gain, and have any kind of tangible solution on how to prevent that moving forward.

Please rest assured (or, more likely, disappointed) that this is not, in fact, what I'm claiming; nor do I claim that illegal immigration/crime is not a problem. What I DO claim is that those painting it as the number one this-changes-everything threat to our society (well, second to Political Correctness), or, even more ludicrously, a deliberate attack on our society, are either woefully misinformed or inexcusably dishonest

In the case of the US, I'd agree that it is not necessarily a deliberate attack on us. At the same time, it is a clear case of being taken advantage of, and nothing is going to really change for Mexico until they (and we) become more proactive in dismantling the cartels.

In the case of Europe, though, I beg to differ.

Sorry, we're getting a little too close to "Vince Foster was murdered!" territory here for my tastes.

This isn't even a conspiracy dude, they are about as at odds as two people can be. It's just not being publicized because that's not how Soros rolls, and because Trump doesn't stand to gain anything from it (yet).

[quash]

Trash candidate gotta have trash supporters.

I'm the one with resentment here. Right.

Whatever policy our goverment makes doesn't interest me, it's become insignificant and weak compared to the largely US lobbies-sold and intelligence-influenced decisions the EU makes, but every times the USA take a big fat dump wherever on Earth, you bet we get the smell and the stains.

Yeah man, screw the US. What have they ever done for you?

I don't see how having a bunch of narcissistic racist populist cretins rule the USA and spread an even nastier influence over the world than it already did, would not make the future of our world worse, it'll be just another thing to increase the size of that dark cloud over my own country.

Calm down, you can take all the refugees you want and absolve us of our racism for us. I mean that's why people from around the world move to the US, right? Because of how intolerant and racist we are?

Frankly, it's because of people like Trump and his supporters like you that I lose faith in humanity.

Correction: it is because of your own shortcomings that you lose faith in humanity.

The basis of what you are ideologically and politically, is resentment towards everything that doesn't obey your extremely narrow vision of humanity, and the desire to eradicate those you think don't belong in your clean American WASP ideal.

Nope, not really. I'm fine with living amongst those different from me, I'm not fine with being taken advantage of and being told how everything is my fault.

[Xyga]

[Mischief Maker]

Fucking cowards.

[Bananamatic]

we already have a proto-trump, time for america to step it up

and we're not going sieg heil yet, so his "racism" is the last thing i'd be worried about

[Mischief Maker]

Well at least there'll be an element of karmic justice when Florida and New York are swallowed by the sea.

[szycag]

[quash]

Laugh it up, clown; it's your shitty, dying ideology that's going to be all but erased from the political discourse of Europe. The more you allow your culture to be destroyed, the quicker it's going to happen.

As per usual, liberals fail to see the consequences of anything, and bring about their own destruction as a result. It's just a shame you'll be taking down much of Europe with you.

[BryanM]

Now that we're living a post apocalyptic wasteland, I recommend cashing in on your 401k and overdosing on heroin or cocaine as soon as you can. The living will envy the dead.

Well at least there'll be an element of karmic justice when Florida and New York are swallowed by the sea.

If it makes you feel any better, the people who'll be displaced will be the kids and grandkids of Sanderman voters, not the invalid pseudo-walking corpses that were "granny farmed" in these primaries.

[Opus131]

Frankly, it's because of people like Trump and his supporters like you that I lose faith in humanity. The basis of what you are ideologically and politically, is resentment towards everything that doesn't obey your extremely narrow vision of humanity, and the desire to eradicate those you think don't belong in your clean American WASP ideal. You're actually the PC~ish version of fanaticism and fascism. Yup, you're PC.

Right on. If only we could exterminate white people, the world would be such a better place.

This is what tolerance is all about folks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCmywMin8I

[BulletMagnet]

As if "Other People" didn't cause plenty problems of their own before "Folks Like Me" came along.

...which, of course, means that the whole matter isn't worth discussing at all, and any efforts at self-improvement for the future (or, heaven forbid, closure for the past) are never worth undertaking, because no one race/religion/etc. has a total monopoly on inexcusable acts. Frankly, the more I encounter it the apologist angle is the one most "unable to look itself in the face"; while the "yeah, this stuff is worth keeping in mind" crowd is at least acting on the belief that its people can and should be better than they have been, as soon as any suggestion of what might actually accomplish this surfaces the flag-wavers immediately cover their ears and shout "Sorry, I can't hear you over all that self-hatred!!" I guess I was always under the impression that "making ourselves great" would take, you know, effort of some kind, would challenge us in some way...silly me, I suppose.

Social Security is doing so well that none of us will be able to use it.

I'll say it again: Social Security isn't going anywhere, because most of its payouts are collected in taxes and immediately distributed back out; the trust fund, which adds benefits on top of that, is the thing that's running out (and again, was specifically designed [by filthy Socialists!] not to be touched until [God-fearing patriot] Reagan decided otherwise), which means that if nothing is done SS won't be as generous as now, but will still exist. Again, though, easy fix: aside from locking the trust fund back up, any earnings you make over 100K or so are for some reason exempt from SS taxes, so raise the cap and it's taken care of (feel free to speak up on behalf of the oppressed 1-percenters who would be affected, since, bless their hearts, they cannot speak for themselves).

And if Medicare was so great, why did Obama feel the need to reform healthcare?

Now you're just being deliberately thick; Obamacare happened because only old people get Medicare, and the rest of us are completely at the mercy of the gilded meat grinder that is our privatized health care system. I myself would have much preferred a "Medicare for all" solution (or at least some sort of public option) to actually give the industry some genuine competition as opposed to the insular gang turf setup it has now, but the AFA at least took some steps towards making health care obtainable for more people, and hasn't been the job-killing menace that its opposers insisted (and continue to insist, as if they're stuck in a feedback loop) it would be.

In the case of the US, I'd agree that it is not necessarily a deliberate attack on us.

Someone had better inform Trump and company!

At the same time, it is a clear case of being taken advantage of, and nothing is going to really change for Mexico until they (and we) become more proactive in dismantling the cartels.

Even ignoring the fact that we've suddenly pivoted from job losses and wage suppression to the drug lords, do you really think a wall is even a minimally-effective way to do it?

In the case of Europe, though, I beg to differ.

I'm not experiencing Europe's troubles firsthand, but do you really think the people fleeing the mess in Syria and elsewhere are doing so with the idea of somehow infiltrating and "corrupting" Caucasian society? Heck, just the notion that such a thing is possible reeks of insecurity that goes far beyond border concerns, if you ask me.

This isn't even a conspiracy dude, they are about as at odds as two people can be.

Yeah, but there always has to be the "there's something They aren't telling you!" cherry on top of the sundae, doesn't there?

[Opus131]

I'm not experiencing Europe's troubles firsthand, but do you really think the people fleeing the mess in Syria and elsewhere are doing so with the idea of somehow infiltrating and "corrupting" Caucasian society?

Well, some of them have been quite open about that, but the vast majority are not consciously conspiring in that direction, they just all viscerally dislike us and they all have a strong in group preference. The ethnic cleansing of Europeans is going to be the inevitable result of the fundamental incompatibility between their identity and ours. Simply put, they do not want to be European and they don't care about our culture, values and history. As their numbers swell, so will European culture vanish.

There is also the fact that the majority of those people are NOT war refugees (a recent statistic i read mentioned that refugees from Syria actually make up for less than 40% of the total number of migrants coming into Europe) and in many cases the "mess" they are fleeing is their own, both in a collective but also personal sense. It just seems strange that so many hordes of mostly young men, healthy, strong, and bent on criminality as soon as they land in our society are truly representative of the whole of the society they come from and it is not just that it is the more daring and impulsive among them that risk making this journey towards a promised land that isn't there, for Europe is already taxed beyond its capability of handling such a large amount of migrants and the flow isn't going to stop.

Frankly, i wouldn't be surprised if this is going to lead to some kind of civil war eventually. Either way, Europe is dead, and so is western civilization.

[quash]

...which, of course, means that the whole matter isn't worth discussing at all, and any efforts at self-improvement for the future (or, heaven forbid, closure for the past) are never worth undertaking, because no one race/religion/etc. has a total monopoly on inexcusable acts. Frankly, the more I encounter it the apologist angle is the one most "unable to look itself in the face"; while the "yeah, this stuff is worth keeping in mind" crowd is at least acting on the belief that its people can and should be better than they have been, as soon as any suggestion of what might actually accomplish this surfaces the flag-wavers immediately cover their ears and shout "Sorry, I can't hear you over all that self-hatred!!" I guess I was always under the impression that "making ourselves great" would take, you know, effort of some kind, would challenge us in some way...silly me, I suppose.

There is not a day on this planet where nobody compares somebody else to Hitler. When was the last time you heard someone being compared to Hirohito?

The atrocities committed by the West are mostly well known and documented, and it is at the forefront of our public conscious more than ever. Meanwhile, nobody seems to care that blacks were far from the only group that were enslaved, nor that blacks themselves partook in the slave trade. The narrative we've constructed on the subject could not possibly be any more one sided. Let's not even get in to the messy histories of Asian and Midde Eastern countries that somehow get swept under the rug.

I'll say it again: Social Secrity isn't going anywhere, because most of its payouts are collected in taxes and immediately distributed back out; the trust fund, which adds benefits on top of that, is the thing that's running out (and again, was specifically designed [by filthy Socialists!] not to be touched until [God-fearing patriot] Reagan decided otherwise), which means that if nothing is done SS won't be as generous as now, but will still exist. Again, though, easy fix: aside from locking the trust fund back up, any earnings you make over 100K or so are for some reason exempt from SS taxes, so raise the cap and it's taken care of (feel free to speak up on behalf of the oppressed 1-percenters who would be affected, since, bless their hearts, they cannot speak for themselves).

My point is that even with an unmolested trust fund, there is not nearly enough money in SS for anyone in my age group to comfortably retire off of it. There's only so much you can do to account for inflation and the ever increasing cost of living. Raising taxes is one way, but you may end up causing more problems than you solve.

For the record, I don't think SS is an inherently bad idea. I actually don't mind the idea of social safety net programs in general; the problem comes when you give too much to too many people. Controlling immigration is one way we can help prevent this, among other things. The biggest problem I have with the prevailing leftist stance on both issues is that they want to have virtually zero restrictions, which is little more than a crash course to self destruction, assuming we were to take that to its finality.

Now you're just being deliberately thick; Obamacare happened because only old people get Medicare, and the rest of us are completely at the mercy of the gilded meat grinder that is our privatized health care system. I myself would have much preferred a "Medicare for all" solution (or at least some sort of public option) to actually give the industry some genuine competition as opposed to the insular gang turf setup it has now, but the AFA at least took some steps towards making health care obtainable for more people, and hasn't been the job-killing menace that its opposers insisted (and continue to insist, as if they're stuck in a feedback loop) it would be.

Some states already do that. Some states already had individual mandate healthcare, too. Ideally, you should be able to choose between state funded healthcare and private, state mandated healthcare.

My point on Medicaid is that it barely does what it's supposed to, and didn't even get the ball rolling on getting something like it implemented on a larger scale (besides the states that took it upon themselves). If this is your grand example of socialism in action, it's a pretty poor one.

Someone had better inform Trump and company!

Haven't we already gone over this? He wants to start a trade war with Mexico using the wall's funding as a pretense.

Even ignoring the fact that we've suddenly pivoted from job losses and wage suppression to the drug lords, do you really think a wall is even a minimally-effective way to do it?

Minimally effective is about what I'd rate it.

I'm not experiencing Europe's troubles firsthand, but do you really think the people fleeing the mess in Syria and elsewhere are doing so with the idea of somehow infiltrating and "corrupting" Caucasian society? Heck, just the notion that such a thing is possible reeks of insecurity that goes far beyond border concerns, if you ask me.

Opus already covered some points, but ultimately we are talking about people who have less than no desire to integrate with the West moving there en masse. Merkel herself has lamented over the misogyny and anti-Semitism these people have brought to Europe; but for fucks sake, what was she expecting? For them to just embrace Western liberalism because it gave them a better life? People bite the hand that feeds all the time, and this is no exception.

Yeah, but there always has to be the "there's something They aren't telling you!" cherry on top of the sundae, doesn't there?

Sad to say, but we live in an age of doublespeak. Reading between the lines is a necessity anymore, I suggest you hone this skill and start separating signal from noise.

[Xyga]

The migrants issue is infinitely smaller than people like you and Opus make it look and twist reality as much as possible with your bullshit to promote your mental paranoid and fundamentally racist ideology.
European civilization threatened by muslims ? You have to be and abyssal idiot, bigot or racist or both to believe that and not see that it's a strategic weapon, they're being pushed towards us to destabilize European opinion and politics when we're already economically weakened, this is in retaliation for the mess with Ukraine and Syria the US dragged Europe to participate into to begin with.
They're completely instrumentalized, if people are threatened it's them, whether you like them or not it's reality, all the madmen like you are looking for any excuses to make them all without exception look like dangerous animals, invaders, and push Europe to deport or ultimately start a genocide on them, again you're basically the PC versions, the falsely civilized and democratic mirror image of assholes like ISIS, and are not doing anything different than the pre-war nazi campaign to make jews pass for the scourge of society only your target is muslims.
And you dare accuse people who oppose your ideological diarrhea to oppress you, posing as victims like all far-right nuts always fucking do.
You do everything to make any people who legitimately reject your bloodthirsty ideas pass for brainless idiot hipsters willing to welcome their own so-called destruction, which is absolute completely idiotic fallacy and the clear proof that you are fanatics.
You are part of the bigger problems in this world, and certainly a bigger menace than any terrorist cunts in the future, because your ideology is from A to Z is a call to total war.
Wherever you stand, whether in the US or Europe, you guys are the greater menace to world peace, and I don't put whole nations and people into the same basket like you mentally limited extremists do, I know there are quite enough people much more intelligent than you in the US - many members here are proving it too - or in France or whatever country that has to suffer the loud vocal diarrhea people like you have been spraying all over society for a while.
You're like cancer, I hope you fail miserably and your ideology ends up down the gutter of history once again.

[Opus131]

The problem is so infinitesimal that if things keep going the way they are Germans may become a minority little more than a generation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9V8POmuxg

Let us not forget that the "invasion" of the western empire begun with a wave of refugees which eventually turned into an invading force once the Germanics realized the Romans had become a weak, decadent people with no will to survive. History literally repeating itself here but some people just seem unable to see the reality for what it is.

But then, one only needs to look what happened with Cologne or worse yet even Rotherham to see who the real "nutjobs" are.

[Xyga]

Ladies and gentlemen, we're reaching below rock bottom.

[BryanM]

I actually prefer EmperorIng's comments on the old givens of:

* Democrats turn into total republicans the second they're not actively challenged in a district.

* Letting school curriculums be left up to states to decide has subpar results. Typically they allow teacher's nearly full range to do whatever they want, which leads to most of them ending up as directionless cows. The only active hand the states ever seem to take to change things is to inject more fundamentalist Christian propaganda into things.

* Oklahoma's water table is of utmost concern. While the earthquakes are a cosmic nuisance at worst for most people, its gonna be the tainted water supply that will fuck us the most as drinkable surface water becomes increasingly scarce through climate change.

Than dwelling on our circular policy of neochristian terrorism.

"Hey our policy made the things we 'hate' even worse so we have to do more of our policy that makes that thing we 'hate' even worse."

I guess a scary observation is that due to our narcissism, we tend to view ourselves as better than other people. So if you happen to be someone who wants to exterminate all life in the middle east, just imagine what they think the middle easterners want to do. (And it is middle easterners, not "muslim". These guys aren't thinking of Burkina Faso or Indonesia when they say "muslim". 15 assholes from Saudi Arabia fly some planes into our buildings, and we decide to break the entire population of Iraq in retaliation. Stupid doesn't even come close to defining that behavior - it is evil. It must be exterminated. By secular terrorism.

Secular terrorism involves nagging dumb people endlessly until they stop being so goddamn dumb. It might work some decade in the future.)

Anyway, I'd really rather bitch about english classes repeatedly telling you what a pronoun and a preposition are. Pretty sure you can get all that covered by the 4th grade, and most local people have the english down pretty well by the 3rd.

[GaijinPunch]

Let's not even get in to the messy histories of Asian and Midde Eastern countries that somehow get swept under the rug.

Is this the rug where most of Asia hates Japan and cries foul regularly? You don't live on the base anymore (allegedly)... maybe you should pay attention to the community around you.

Controlling immigration is one way we can help prevent this, among other things.

Yeah, it's worked out great for Japan.

[quash]

The migrants issue is infinitely smaller than people like you and Opus make it look and twist reality as much as possible with your bullshit to promote your mental paranoid and fundamentally racist ideology.

It didn't take long for this to come out at all! I guess not wanting to drain Syria of its civilian population and making the West bear its burden is racist.

European civilization threatened by muslims ? You have to be and abyssal idiot, bigot or racist or both to believe that and not see that it's a strategic weapon, they're being pushed towards us to destabilize European opinion and politics when we're already economically weakened, this is in retaliation for the mess with Ukraine and Syria the US dragged Europe to participate into to begin with.

After vehemently denying that mass migration is being used as a weapon, you go on to describe how it's being used as a weapon.

Once again, you can thank Obama & co. for making an already bad situation even worse. "Moderate rebels" become ISIS, while "refugees" are about to become European.

They're completely instrumentalized, if people are threatened it's them, whether you like them or not it's reality, all the madmen like you are looking for any excuses to make them all without exception look like dangerous animals, invaders, and push Europe to deport or ultimately start a genocide on them, again you're basically the PC versions, the falsely civilized and democratic mirror image of assholes like ISIS, and are not doing anything different than the pre-war nazi campaign to make jews pass for the scourge of society only your target is muslims.

This argument by the numbers keeps getting better. Again, not wanting to see Europe fall to a backwards ideology is now apparently racist, and I'm just as bad as ISIS, the guys attacking your country, for thinking so.

And you dare accuse people who oppose your ideological diarrhea to oppress you, posing as victims like all far-right nuts always fucking do.

I'm making myself to be a victim? I have no immediate stake in Europe: I wasn't born or raised there and at the rate things are going may never visit. I could choose to not give a shit, since you all harbor insane amounts of ressentiment towards the US anyways, but that doesn't feel right to me for many reasons. If anything is going to demoralize me in my concern for Europe, it will be your own demoralization, allowing people who don't deserve to step foot on your continent to live there on their own terms while telling you that you're racist for not bending to their every whim.

You do everything to make any people who legitimately reject your bloodthirsty ideas pass for brainless idiot hipsters willing to welcome their own so-called destruction, which is absolute completely idiotic fallacy and the clear proof that you are fanatics.

"Bloodthirsty ideas" include not handing your country over to people who don't give a shit about it. Alright then.

You are part of the bigger problems in this world, and certainly a bigger menace than any terrorist cunts in the future, because your ideology is from A to Z is a call to total war.

Pretty sure the ones calling for total war are the terrorists. We just go though cycles of support and antagonization for the purpose of political gain.

If we were to start a total war with the Middle East, the entire region would turn into a parking lot overnight. Sounds like an easy solution at first, but then you realize that a good amount of the world's oil also went up in flames when you did that. Which brings us where we are today.

I hope you fail miserably and your ideology ends up down the gutter of history once again.

Allahu ackbar to you too, infidel.

[quash]

Is this the rug where most of Asia hates Japan and cries foul regularly?... maybe you should pay attention to the community around you.

If there's anywhere on the planet where you'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of Japan's militaristic past, it's Japan. For awhile I lazily wrote this off as a bad thing, but in reality it has served a very important purpose: it has prevented guilt trips from working on the Japanese people.

They should really be thanking us, though, because if it weren't for Big Boy and Fat Man, they wouldn't have a sob story of their own capable of overriding all the shit they did, and may have faced far more intense scrutiny from the West.

Yeah, it's worked out great for Japan.

It has, actually. They're far from any kind of point of no return and can slowly work their way towards a sustainable working aged population instead of opening the floodgates.

[Xyga]

Beyond hope. Unlike Giest I have no anthropological curiosity for trash, so you know it's better if we don't reply to each other's posts any more.

But please keep on entertaining the audience, I know some people have a strange morbid interest for the kind of spectacle psychos like you give, a bit like those who visit Chernobyl or North Korea for thrills.

Me: