Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

[Ed Oscuro]

Completely wrong once again - the only violence has been against Trump protesters. I mean, come on, let's stop lying already.

So essentially Trump protesters can crash Trump rallies [...] disrupt his speeches

Just to make it crystal clear what Trump supporters think of the American Constitution.

Yes, this is America, not Italy, certainly not Mussolini's Italy.

Edited out the rest of the shit you wrote because it didn't happen. (I took a moment to check out the ambulance thing; hasn't been reported anywhere but Infowars, but obviously people need not to block ambulances; the MAC-10 thing happened after Trump cancelled a rally, which proves you haven't been paying attention.)

[quash]

@BryanM: Not sure what that's supposed to communicate, but understand that I have no problem with protest of any kind. The thing is how people will thumb their nose and try to discredit another movement for "inciting violence" when all the evidence of their causes doing the same add up to something else ("disrupting the status quo", " fighting for justice", etc).

[Ed Oscuro]

the evidence of their causes

Which is people not knowing how to deal with a protest responsibly.

BryanM's cartoon is about the other end of that discussion, when ol whitey inevitably shakes his fist at the uppity minority for being vocal about their rights. It is basically the same thing Opus is doing in this thread by trying to deflect the discussion, arguing for some moral equivalence between doing something stupid but probably harmless versus punching somebody in the face. But this only makes you look stupider: Why are you okay with violence when white counterprotesters do it?

[quash]

The same can be said of Tump rallies or just about any other violence at protests. You'll have to provide at least a little more detail on that if you are trying to make a point.

The position of finger wagging can be held by anyone; it just so happens to typically be white liberals.

[Ed Oscuro]

Evidence of what? The posts immediately before yours which are plain as day? Or the violence at Trump rallies by Trump supporters that has been in the news for months now?

Dumb troll confirmed once again.

Yeah, expecting people not to sucker punch each other is definitely useless "finger wagging." I expect that if you get assaulted you'd just writhe in futility like a spineless fish.

And don't think that just because you're white that you're safe from these idiots.

Incidentally, Trump says there's been "no violence, nobody's been hurt" and yet he is still "considering" paying the legal defense for the old coward who sucker punched that protester. Trump isn't channeling the Iraqi Information Minister when he defends bloodying somebody's face and then says "let's not use the word violence."

[quash]

You need to define what it means to "deal with protesters correctly". That could mean anything from allowing anarchists to destroy everything in sight to shooting and gassing protesters.

You may have a point, but anyone who's not already familiar with your perspective isn't being included in your posts.

[BryanM]

Good 'ole internet being the internet.

Here's a gif instead. It is a gift.

[Ed Oscuro]

You need to define what it means to "deal with protesters correctly".

No, I don't. This is 2016, not 1964. All the other candidates have been able to deal with whatever protesters they have

That could mean anything from allowing anarchists to destroy everything in sight to shooting and gassing protesters.

That you even want to inject this irrelevant shit into the conversation is a sign that you're desperate to talk about anything but Trump's violence problem. That, or you seriously think anybody should think it's acceptable to throw gas canisters into the crowd at a Trump rally. Maybe you meant they should just preemptively screen black people from the rally?

You may have a point, but anyone who's not already familiar with your perspective isn't being included in your posts.

Anybody who is a decent human being understands that when there is violence you should stop it, not lie about it; anybody who has the human virtue of sanity knows protesters at a Trump rally are not the anarchists.

It is amazing that even the armed Oregon occupiers ended up putting responsibility for that violence on the head of the guy who was reckless and tried to drive through the police, but Trump supporters in heartland America can't decide whether punching a guy in the face is violence or not.

[quash]

You're spinning your wheels, Ed.

Bryan, those are some funny ass dank memes. But real comedy? That's the stuff you can't make up.

[BulletMagnet]

But real comedy? That's the stuff you can't make up.

Now we just see if she denies having any idea who he and his organization are.

[quash]

I'd say it's only a matter of time before she claims that she's always supported the KKK (which has more truth to it than anyone wants to admit, actually).

[Opus131]

I took a moment to check out the ambulance thing; hasn't been reported anywhere but Infowars, but obviously people need not to block ambulances

Except it is actually on video.

At any rate, i find it funny how trying to stop a person from exercising their first amendment... is in itself an exercise of the first amendment. It is fascism... to resist my fascism.
Or something, i don't know.

the news

[BulletMagnet]

I'd say it's only a matter of time before she claims that she's always supported the KKK (which has more truth to it than anyone wants to admit, actually).

As I've said before I've got more than enough qualms about Hillary in a number of areas, but if you're not just attempting a snarky left-field deflection and actually think that's the route she's taking, sorry, you've gone completely off the deep end.

[quash]

If enough polls from the right think-tanks indicated that it'd get her votes, I'm pretty sure she'd wear an entre wardrobe of Hugo Boss.

Calm down, it's a joke. I think.

[Strikers1945guy]

So... hurray super Tuesday?

[BryanM]

If saying the n word would get her votes, she would say the n word.

Looks more and more certain Trump is going to be our next president. Have to be ashamed for all of us naive enough to hope our dumb garbage country could do any better than that.

[Xyga]

You know, so many cuntries in Europe seem ready to start the 'Nazifasci Daifukkatsu' at the corner of the EU's upcoming collapse that I wonder if in about a year or two the US won't be a safer and overall more livable place even with him in power.

I'll flee to China when things turn really bad anyway. :p

[quash]

I wasn't wrong about Europeans wanting to overthrow their globalist overlords after all, eh?

[Xyga]

Stuff is really complicated and as usual can vary quite a lot from country to country, you can't reduce everything to a single idea.

[austere]

I wasn't wrong about Europeans wanting to overthrow their globalist overlords after all, eh?

What people want and what they can achieve is very distant around the world. In the EU's case, the Lisbon treaty was their last stand and they did nothing. Though Poland and Hungary seem to be showing them the door. I hope more follow suit.

In the US/Australia/etc., it's the TPP. Only two candidates that are explicitly against the TPP are Trump and Bernie. A vote for anyone else will result in a Clinton victory and the TPP, then it's gg no re. In Australia we don't get a vote in these matters, our investment banke-- er-- *ahem* Prime minister will sign off almost anything handed to him by the states.

[BryanM]

Pretty good time for a meltdown I guess.

Goddamn we're stupid. Fuck this gay earth.

Fetal position, no sleeping, forever.

[okerlo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE
This is a great day for Mr. Trump especially the results of the elections in Florida.
That's it Rubio

[Rob]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE

Holy fucking vomit.

[MOSQUITO FIGHTER]

I'm going to miss all my Hispanic friends.

[Opus131]

I wasn't wrong about Europeans wanting to overthrow their globalist overlords after all, eh?

It is almost as if Europeans do not like the idea of being wiped out in their own countries. The entitlement i swear.

Not that all this couldn't have been prevented or anything.

[Mischief Maker]

Am I the only one here who remembers that delegates are awarded proportionally and Illinois and Missouri only went to Hillary by a whisker?

Am I the only one here who remembers that polls showed Bernie scoring way lower than he actually did?

Am I the only one here who remembers Hillary's deep south red state firewall is all used up and Bernie's best states are ahead of him?

I may be the only one aware of all the local races that are electing progressive candidates in the wake of Bernie's campaign enthusiasm.

Chin up, you wrist-slitting liberals.

Okay, fine, here's something awful: How the New York Times sandbagged Bernie Sanders.

[BryanM]

He's roughly 314 delegates behind. He has to win every state going forward, and by a giant margin. He absolutely must win California* and New York by double digits. His polling in New York is dogshit. New York went to Hillary by 17% in 2008. Every single race between them is close when it's only white people voting, but conservative religious black people serve as a flat minus to his performance. New York is 15.18% african american. If he can't win Massachusetts or Missouri.. There is functionally zero chance he will win New York by double digits short an act of god. Hillary being indicted wouldn't even be enough - he'd need Hillary to say the n word on tv, and then get endorsed by Oprah, Obama, and the ghost of MLK combined.

I'm very happy it looks like Alan Grayson is going to become a candidate for the senate versus the republican->democrat transformizoid the party wants us to select instead. But the holy grail of Bernie for god emperor? His odds are less than 5% now.

The most we can hope for is maybe, maybe, he can get a line about getting rid of bribery at the national convention put into the party platform. That would be super, even though nobody will run on it or try to actually pass it.

It's absolutely crushing that I would be happier with 8 more years of Obama than what we've been given. At the VERY least, he has not nuked Cuba, Syria, Russia, or Iran. We'll be looking back to this time as "the good old days".


* It's realistic that he could win California 60-40. But he'd have to win it by triple digits if Hillary wins big in New York, or if even a few fly over states don't flip his way.

[Specineff]

As a foreigner, I am not terribly familiar with the way the electoral colleges work and such... but you guys are planning on voting, right? And you know that "None of the above" counts as much against Trump as it does for everyone else if they don't fit the bill, right?

Right?

[Obscura]

Voting "none of the above" is literally no different than staying home.