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Voultar wrote:
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Voultar wrote:Anybody can say anything, what merit does that really have?
People believe whatever skips says about me without checking with me to see if it's actually true. People just prefer to hate, it's easier than being decent. This never had anything to do with merit.

Drakon, it has everything to do with merit. Look at the video evidence, look at the pictures, look at the customer testimonials. People don't prefer to hate.

If you're unwilling to rebuild your reputation and foster good relationships with people in the modding community, then you don't have a leg to stand on, period.

You expect it to be given to you.
People ignored good testimonials about me. People ignored and continue ignoring pictures of work I did that's perfectly fine. It's because you only want to look at bad things, no matter how out of date they are.

Everything posted in these threads were the worst examples that could be found ignoring everything else.

I don't understand why you still think I want so much to be a part of this place. I'm just asking to remove no longer relevant things posted about me that generate a lot of stupid comments from complete strangers. My request isn't unreasonable.

I love constructive criticism and respect of different opinions. But these threads generate the complete opposite and they don't help your community in any way.

I'll even remove all the bad stuff I said about skips and anyone else. I really disliked saying it. I know that negativity helps nothing.
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Drakon wrote:

People ignored good testimonials about me.
Okay, fair enough. Show us the good testimonials.
Drakon wrote: People ignored and continue ignoring pictures of work I did that's perfectly fine. It's because you only want to look at bad things, no matter how out of date they are.
Pictures is plural. I've only see ONE picture of an SNES cartridge reproduction. So, I have 1 decent thing to look at, and 40 bad things... Where are the other pictures?
Drakon wrote: Everything posted in these threads were the worst examples that could be found ignoring everything else.
Again, fair enough. Can you provide pictures of your work that aren't the worst examples, as well as everything that's been previously ignored? I'm beginning to see a trending pattern.
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I don't understand why you still think I want so much to be a part of this place. I'm just asking to remove no longer relevant things posted about me that generate a lot of stupid comments from complete strangers.
If you don't want to participate in this community, why do you continue to make posts?
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Sorry one picture. But it was three jobs. Although I did privately send you some other pictures of recent work I did with zero glue. I guess that was't good enough to convince you that I no longer make a mess of things that I work on.

I believe in the nintendoage thread maxwar said something nice about me. Even if you personally choose to focus fairly on me, people still will ignore it and only focus on the horrible examples that you posted.

I post here because I want to remove the useless public shaming threads that generate endless stupid comments towards me and others. Once that stops I will happily leave.

What trending pattern are you seeing? You yourself dug up pictures of work I posted back in 2013 that you said wasn't bad. You asked me about why I did certain things with it and I was happy to explain. You agreed that what I did made sense.

No matter what your intentions are a lot of people ignore the good things and focus on the bad. I'm just asking that the bad things I did that are no longer relevant be removed. If I wasn't receiving ignorant comments about hot glue these days that stem directly from what's been posted I would happily be living my life elsewhere.

Like skips, I don't want my inbox filling up with stupidity.

People won't start to pay attention to good examples until the bad ones are removed. That's the unfortunate nature of a lot of people. I don't want people to start hiring me again. I just want the bad examples removed so my inbox stops being filled with stupidity.

Once again. I'm sorry for bad things I said about skips and others. I personally want all of this to stop, from myself and from others. But that will require that you people give me a chance by removing the bad press which is no longer relevant. I'm not looking to get more work, I'm just looking to stop stupid comments. I want comments I receive to be productive and about my current work.
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What trending pattern are you seeing? You yourself dug up pictures of work I posted back in 2013 that you said wasn't bad. You asked me about why I did certain things with it and I was happy to explain. You agreed that what I did made sense.
You seem to assert that your work doesn't look a certain way, yet you're unable to show people otherwise. Minus 1 picture of some repro carts. And I have no idea of what you're talking about. I dug up several things. When we were discussing the front-loader and how much the person paid for the modwork, you disputed the figure. Until I showed you the paypal invoices of payments he made. Then you conceded. What did that require? Ahh, evidence. ;)
Drakon wrote:
Once again. I'm sorry for bad things I said about skips and others. I personally want all of this to stop, from myself and from others. But that will require that you people give me a chance by removing the bad press which is no longer relevant. I'm not looking to get more work, I'm just looking to stop stupid comments. I want comments I receive to be productive and about my current work.
This really sounds like you're trying to make a deal. You're suggesting that if the pictures of your shitty mod-work are erased from the vast variety of forums, you'll start posting pictures of good modwork?? You want a clean slate before proving otherwise?

I have to give up at this point. I've tried. lol
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I didn't dispute the figures you showed me. I told you the best estimate of what I could recall from something that's 3 years old. Once you showed it to me I didn't argue or dispute it. In fact I really went out of my way to try to send phonedork a replacement system. If you didn't have a predisposed opinion about me you wouldn't have seen it like that. Even though you've never personally been involved with or hired me for anything involving money, you already have a strong opinion about me, like many other complete strangers do. You conveniently neglected to mention the part where I gawked at how much money was sent my way and took initiative to bug phonedork about getting him a replacement system. I've been bugging him for years about that.

I sent you a message telling you what you dug up that you said was't bad.

I don't want to start posting pictures of recent work unless people fairly and reasonably ask for it. I just want to stop the stupid comments. Again, everything you write is with some assumption that I wish to return to doing this stuff. If there were a way to stop the stupid comments and still make sure that nobody trusts me I'd happily do that, even though it's completely wrong.

People not wanting to hire me doesn't bother me, even though it's completely based on out-dated and a lot of incorrect propaganda, even though it's wrong. It's the annoying useless comments I receive that I'm trying to stop.

Skips could easily help stop those comments and at the same time make this community a more positive place but skips chooses not to. I don't know why skips would say sorry for the comments even though he could help stop them but chooses not to. Skips' actions are often a contradiction to what he says, like how he says he rolls with punches but blows up in his replies to anything negative I posted about him. This is why I really find it difficult trusting skips. Skips says one thing, but he does the complete opposite.

If one picture isn't good enough then what would be? The only general impression I've ever received is that no matter what I do, it's not ever going to be good enough. People requested that I post a picture and I did, absolutely nothing changed.

The problem is that you and many others read everything I say after first completely believing all the lies that were said about me. When you believe all those lies then you refuse to trust me and actually be fair in any way towards me. I think that we can both agree that when you first met me you never gave me any "clean slate" and you always had very strong opinions about me.

I really appreciate you posting how what I say looks to other people. That helps me explain myself better. Thank you very much for doing this.

I'm not trying to make a deal. I'll even start removing negative things I said right now if skips sends me a pm requesting it. I brought that up because my negative comments about skips seemed to be what derailed skips from being reasonable with me. Skips has been posting lies about the type of person I am for years. I figured skips would understand me posting my perception of skips and he would handle it maturely. I guess I was mistaken, so I'm offering to clear that up if it makes skips happier.
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Drakon wrote: I don't understand why you still think I want so much to be a part of this place. I'm just asking to remove no longer relevant things posted about me that generate a lot of stupid comments from complete strangers. My request isn't unreasonable.

[snip]

I'll even remove all the bad stuff I said about skips and anyone else. I really disliked saying it. I know that negativity helps nothing.
You do realize that you can't simply remove stuff from the internet right? That's not how it works...
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I know that it's pretty easy to take down youtube videos. Skips made it sound like he could remove those posts by talking to admins. I can edit recent posts and look into whatever it would take to remove old negative comments. Where there's a will there's a way.
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Drakon wrote:I know that it's pretty easy to take down youtube videos. Skips made it sound like he could remove those posts by talking to admins. I can edit recent posts. Where there's a will there's a way.
Have you asked Jason to take those videos down? What did he say?

As for some of those threads, I remember Skips talking about this, he said he would talk to them about adding some sort of disclaimer that states that it is no longer your current work, not take them down.
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Taking them down is what's best. All of that was posted without my permission. Adding a disclaimer doesn't make it okay to post someone else's work like that. Those threads and videos do nothing to help anything. I haven't asked Jason. I made comments in his videos so he could see the hate people gave to me in replies caused by all of this. That didn't inspire him to take them down.
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Drakon wrote:Taking them down is what's best. All of that was posted without my permission. Those threads and videos do nothing to help anything. I haven't asked Jason. I made comments in his videos so he could see the hate people gave to me in replies caused by all of this. That didn't inspire him to take them down.
Without your permission?

Jason doesn't require your permission to document systems that are sent to him. Regardless if you did them or not. You have no expectation of privacy when you sell something to someone that doesn't work..
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Voultar wrote:
Drakon wrote:Taking them down is what's best. All of that was posted without my permission. Those threads and videos do nothing to help anything. I haven't asked Jason. I made comments in his videos so he could see the hate people gave to me in replies caused by all of this. That didn't inspire him to take them down.
Without your permission?

Jason doesn't require your permission to document systems that are sent to him. Regardless if you did them or not. You have no expectation of privacy when you sell something to someone that doesn't work..
It did work which was demonstrated in the video. The work quality was horrible which I am sorry for, but it did work.

My point is that if Jason had shot me an e-mail with suggestions I would have really appreciated it and improved much faster than the results of making and posting that video.
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Drakon wrote:
Voultar wrote:
Drakon wrote:Taking them down is what's best. All of that was posted without my permission. Those threads and videos do nothing to help anything. I haven't asked Jason. I made comments in his videos so he could see the hate people gave to me in replies caused by all of this. That didn't inspire him to take them down.
Without your permission?

Jason doesn't require your permission to document systems that are sent to him. Regardless if you did them or not. You have no expectation of privacy when you sell something to someone that doesn't work..
It did work which was demonstrated in the video. The work quality was horrible which I am sorry for, but it did work.
No, it didn't work properly. Neither system did. Otherwise, they never would have been sent to Jason in the first place..
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Voultar wrote: Jason doesn't require your permission to document systems that are sent to him. Regardless if you did them or not. You have no expectation of privacy when you sell something to someone that doesn't work..
Bingo. Back when I was an active modder, I fully understood the possibility that some of my customers would post pictures of my handiwork, and any modder worth their salt should understand that as well. Plus if your work was any good in the first place and not made of 85% hot glue we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Drakon wrote: It did work which was demonstrated in the video. The work quality was horrible which I am sorry for, but it did work.
Uhh no, if you had even watched the video in full you would've seen that it had brightness issues through RGB and the S-video output didn't work properly. Why did you think it was acceptable to charge so much money for that shit? Why did you think it was acceptable to use so much goddamn hot glue? Why did you think it was acceptable to mod systems for RGB and not even test them on an RGB-capable setup?! These are reasons why none of your stuff should ever be taken down, because all of it serves as prime examples of what not to do as a modder.
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Voultar wrote:No, it didn't work properly. Neither system did. Otherwise, they never would have been sent to Jason in the first place..
The first one he had resistors in the rgb cable. otherwise it was fine. I forgot genesis rgb cables had them. I built the system not his av cable. I'm sorry that at the time I didn't have a way to test scart cables. I let the customer know that.

The second one I let the customer know that I connected composite video to composite sync so he wouldn't have to rewire av cables. He confirmed that was okay, and then promptly forgot. A number of customers seem to forget things.
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Drakon wrote: I forgot genesis rgb cables had them. I built the system not his av cable. I'm sorry that at the time I didn't have a way to test scart cables.
!!!

Again, why the fuck did you not have an RGB-capable setup when you were doing so many RGB mods? Especially considering how much you were charging people for mods...
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ApolloBoy wrote:
Drakon wrote: I forgot genesis rgb cables had them. I built the system not his av cable. I'm sorry that at the time I didn't have a way to test scart cables.
!!!

Again, why the fuck did you not have an RGB-capable setup when you were doing so many RGB mods? Especially considering how much you were charging people for mods...
I used an external conversion circuit from rgb to s-video, later changed to component. I just chose not to use a massive bulky scart connector for something that needed 6 pins.

I charged what I did because I was busy with other things and needed a way to slow the work down.
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Drakon wrote: I used an external conversion circuit from rgb to s-video, later changed to component.
That's not good enough, you need to be able to test RGB directly. Just because it works when encoded to S-video doesn't necessarily mean it'll work properly when you're using just RGB.
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ApolloBoy wrote:
Drakon wrote: I used an external conversion circuit from rgb to s-video, later changed to component.
That's not good enough, you need to be able to test RGB directly. Just because it works when encoded to S-video doesn't necessarily mean it'll work properly when you're using just RGB.
Please explain why? The only thing I can see is that the s-video circuit amps darker rgb, which is why I later switched to componeont instead of s-video. Other than that, everything a regular rgb setup would use is tested.

I always let customers know that I didn't test rgb cables. It worked for pretty much every customer. The customers who had issues it was always something to do with their av cables and I helped them figure it out over the internet.
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Drakon wrote:
ApolloBoy wrote:
Drakon wrote: I used an external conversion circuit from rgb to s-video, later changed to component.
That's not good enough, you need to be able to test RGB directly. Just because it works when encoded to S-video doesn't necessarily mean it'll work properly when you're using just RGB.
Please explain why? The only thing I can see is that the s-video circuit amps darker rgb, which is why I later switched to componeont instead of s-video. Other than that, everything a regular rgb setup would use is tested.

I always let customers know that I didn't test rgb cables.

I explained to you why it's important to test with real hardware. Thus the prime reason why I walked you through the process of modifying your RCA CRT TV to properly accept native, 15kHz RGB video.

This was very recent. Better late than never, I suppose.
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Voultar wrote:I explained to you why it's important to test with real hardware. Thus the prime reason why I walked you through the process of modifying your RCA CRT TV to properly accept native, 15kHz RGB video.

This was very recent. Better late than never, I suppose.
I can't thank you enough for getting me started on it. I would have attempted it years ago if I hadn't been so afraid of working inside of a crt. You telling me how to work safely inside of a crt was the biggest help.
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Drakon wrote:
Voultar wrote:I explained to you why it's important to test with real hardware. Thus the prime reason why I walked you through the process of modifying your RCA CRT TV to properly accept native, 15kHz RGB video.

This was very recent. Better late than never, I suppose.
I figured out a lot of it myself too from trying different things. But I can't thank you enough for getting me started on it. I would have attempted it years ago if I hadn't been so afraid of working inside of a crt. You telling me how to work safely inside of a crt was the biggest help.

No, you really didn't, Drakon. That's a very disingenuous comment to make. You might have put some pull-ups on your RGB inputs. But I explained to you how 75 ohm load video signals worked. I explained to you (and even drew out diagrams) of your Jungle I/C of where to input your RGB signals. I explained to you how to pull pull sync from a vacant composite input and how to get it going. I explained to you (and drew out) the blanking pin that you had to hold high with a low voltage source in order to blank the screen for RGB. I even drew out a diagram for you on terminating your RGB inputs to ground with 75 ohm resistors to match the impedence of the standard signal load from your devices.. Other than adding some pull-ups to your video signals, you didn't figure much of anything out for yourself. I usually don't get heated with you, but considering I spent several hours walking you through the process (which I didn't have a problem doing) as you would follow my direction and come back with results, it kinda rubs me the wrong way for you to say something so fantastical.
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Voultar wrote:
Drakon wrote:
Voultar wrote:I explained to you why it's important to test with real hardware. Thus the prime reason why I walked you through the process of modifying your RCA CRT TV to properly accept native, 15kHz RGB video.

This was very recent. Better late than never, I suppose.
I figured out a lot of it myself too from trying different things. But I can't thank you enough for getting me started on it. I would have attempted it years ago if I hadn't been so afraid of working inside of a crt. You telling me how to work safely inside of a crt was the biggest help.

No, you really didn't, Drakon. That's a very disingenuous comment to make. You might have put some pull-ups on your RGB inputs. But I explained to you how 75 ohm load video signals worked. I explained to you (and even drew out diagrams) of your Jungle I/C of where to input your RGB signals. I explained to you how to pull pull sync from a vacant composite input and how to get it going. I explained to you (and drew out) the blanking pin that you had to hold high with a low voltage source in order to blank the screen for RGB. I even drew out a diagram for you on terminating your RGB inputs to ground with 75 ohm resistors to match the impedence of the standard signal load from your devices.. Other than adding some pull-ups to your video signals, you didn't figure much of anything out for yourself. I usually don't get heated with you, but considering I spent several hours walking you through the process (which I didn't have a problem doing) as you would follow my direction and come back with results, it kinda rubs me the wrong way for you to say something so fantastical.
You shot down my sync on luma idea which turned out to be better than using composite video. No need to get so angry. I don't know how much of it I would have figured out on my own if I hadn't been afraid to work inside of a crt.

And of course I'm thankful for your help. I do consider you primarily responsible. Another thing that was amazing was you teaching me about that focus knob. Everyone should know about that on their crt.
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You guys know Drakon is never going to change, right? I would suggest all of you (Skips, Voultar, Apollo, etc.) just ignore this thread and let it fall. Drakon can just keep replying to himself until he gives up or an admin takes action for excessive bumping.
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Drakon, I'm not interested in taking credit for anything. I'm interested in you telling the truth, and not presenting something in false light. You were able to hardly figure out anything. That's not to downplay you. But don't act like you figured "a lot of this stuff out" and I merely gave you a few suggestions. That's total horse-shit, and a bold lie.



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It's the principle of the matter. No wonder nobody believes anything you say at face value. And I've done nothing but given you the benefit of the doubt.
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Uhm, I did say that you were primarily responsible. I hadn't sat down and taken a look into it only because I was afraid to work inside of a crt. If I had I'm sure I would have figured a lot of that out too. I appreciate you saving me a lot of time and effort.

If me saying that it was 100% you makes you feel better then sure, you did the whole thing.
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You acted as if he merely got you started. Looks to me he showed you exactly what to do as well as gave you diagrams. Those messages look as if you had no clue what you were doing. You are lucky Voultar is such a patient and nice guy because most people would have broke your damn nose for such insulting comments and lies. You figured out little to nothing, without Voultar you would not have been able to do this.
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Skips wrote:You acted as if he merely got you started. Looks to me he showed you exactly what to do as well as gave you diagrams. Those messages look as if you had no clue what you were doing. You are lucky Voultar is such a patient and nice guy because most people would have broke your damn nose for such insulting comments and lies. You figured out little to nothing, without Voultar you would not have been able to do this.
Breaking a nose for comments is how real men react.

I've done plenty of other things on my own. Unfortunately skips believes I somehow stole everything I've done.
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Drakon wrote:
Skips wrote:You acted as if he merely got you started. Looks to me he showed you exactly what to do as well as gave you diagrams. Those messages look as if you had no clue what you were doing. You are lucky Voultar is such a patient and nice guy because most people would have broke your damn nose for such insulting comments and lies. You figured out little to nothing, without Voultar you would not have been able to do this.
Breaking a nose for comments is how real men react.

I've done plenty of other things on my own. Unfortunately skips believes I somehow stole everything I've done.
I love how you go back and edit shit after you post in just about every damn post.
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I edited it out because Voultar complained and unlike skips, Voultar didn't act like a whiny b#tch.

It's creepy how skips obsessively stalks me so much that he notices that.
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Drakon wrote:I edited it out because Voultar complained and unlike skips, Voultar didn't act like a whiny b#tch.
You edit shit because you are trying to hide your bullshit.
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