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Dogbone or Brick?

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NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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I'm comfortable with both controllers. I only have a couple dogbones because they came with my AV Famicom. I'd love to use the dogbone, but I feel that it's way different from the brick design that NES games were intended to be played with. What do you people think?

P.S.: Now that I think of it, I remember my hands hurting too much to play any more video games for the rest of the day after beating Mario 3 (all level run) with the brick.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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I use my SNES controller on my NES.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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+1 for SNES on NES. Asciipad to be specific. :wink:
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I mostly just use the SNES controller that came with my SNES when I got it (like, came in the box with the SNES in 1991 or whatever). I also bought a Hori controller to save the life of my thumb in shmups that don't let you hold down the fire button, and while it is shaped pretty identically to a SNES controller (with auto switches for each button), the buttons feel pretty different and I'm not a huge fan of them (also X/Y are convex instead of concave and I don't like that).

I just bought a NES extender and SNES extender, cut 'em in half, and soldered them together.

I'm actually planning on grabbing a SNES to GameCube and SNES to PSX adapter too. Gotta have that SNES controller on every platform :P
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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No "NES Advantage" joystick?

I've always thought the brick was fine for my hands.
Sure I'd get a sore thumb on the dpad but the corners never hurt me as some complain.
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The square style controller digs into your hands, and the dpad on the dogbone causes unintended diagonal inputs when intending to press a cardinal direction.

I say best of both worlds is a joycard, and they have autofire too.
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To me, the brick is part of the NES experience. Something is missing when I don't use it. I guess it's the nostalgia kicking in!
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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One thing that sucks about the brick though is that it's almost impossible to find ones that don't have signs of wear by now. I need some good, clickey rubber pads that are responsive (have flat contacts instead of concave ones) to refurbish clean controllers with worn out buttons.
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FinalBaton wrote:To me, the brick is part of the NES experience. Something is missing when I don't use it. I guess it's the nostalgia kicking in!
This, although the dog bone is nice for long sessions.
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I went with dogbone.

Although I can hold the original NES controller normally, I held with with the "claw grip" back in the day. My index fingers aren't really that comfortable with it when I use it.
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The dogbone has weird button positioning imo.
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I've never actually used a dogbone controller. But I enjoy the regular brick controller.
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Also voting for SNES Asciipad. Made my own dongle and will never use anything else again.
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guspaz: theres a box for the snes that your controllers plug into, called the power plug that gives them auto fire.
its nice because you can use your original controllers instead of the 3rd party ones.

i would imagine it would work with your nes adapter too because the controller chips are the same.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Thanks for that mvsfan, the Tyco power plug looks awesome. I have padhacked SNES pads and thought I would always be without autofire. I'll let everyone know if it works with NES too. It might not if it expects 16 bit streams.

Does "clone" allow button remapping? I hope so, as my Nintendo cab only has 2 hardwired buttons.

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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Dogbone. So much more comfortable.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Dogbone for me as well. But then, I don't even own any NES original controller, mine are the AV Famicom ones.

I actually used to rock the Famicom with the PS2's Saturn-style controller. But for some reason certain games didn't recognize it, so I decided to just play 'em all with the dogbone.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Why so much dogbone love ? I have both and the dogbone's a&b buttons slant in the worst way possible. Also it's cheap feeling and baby small.

About the slant lets take 3 controllers the original NES, the dogbone, and the snes. Then lets take the same game so like super mario. On the NES original controller you are holding your thumb pretty much horizontal to run and jump. On the dogbone you have to hold your thumb diagonally upwards to hit both buttons. On the snes controller you are holding it diagonally downwards (hitting y&b) to run and jump.

So there are three different hand positions sideways (slightly awkward but manageable) , top-right (hella akward), and bottom-right (perfect).

I mean the dogbone does have the contour thing going for it, but isn't it clearly more ergonomic to have both hands in similar positions ?
Someone who has used both please weigh in cause I don't get it.
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No one else has experienced a problem with unintended diagonal inputs on the dogbone? It is in my opinion the biggest weakness of that controller since most 8bit games impose draconian precision demands on the player.

Try this, push just the direction down, then let your thumb nudge the down direction slightly to the left or right and suddenly the left or right directions are also detected by the game.

This was not the case on other famicom/NES controllers since their dpad arrows were not so short and stubby.
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I like them both. But the best has to go to the NES Advantage.
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Truth is, I've only ever used the standard NES stuff.
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Hoagtech wrote:I like them both. But the best has to go to the NES Advantage.
I SUCK at joysticks though. I'm only good at d-pads.
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Normally I'd agree, but the Advantage is surprisingly good with NES games, I've found.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Tyco SNES Power plug indeed works with the NES via an adapter.

You can correct the button layout! Tested turbo as well.

Surprisingly it does not work with my 3rd party hacked SNES pads :(
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It doesnt work with my 3rd party controllers either.
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Re: NES Original or Dogbone controller?

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Do you get random behavior from buttons? If so I know why!!!

It appears my 3rd party controllers don't property pull-down the strobe, and rely on the console to do it internally. But the power plug doesn't, so the timing gets off.

In the power plug, controller side, just put a 10k resistor across strobe and ground and it works.

See pic in link:
https://goo.gl/photos/v9M5uarnkEvzTz3p9

Added: does this thing not save it's programming on power cycle? Or is mine defective?
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