Prelude to the Apocalypse

[BryanM]

Today's rumor is Marco Rubio is a cocaine addict.

It explains pretty much the entirety of his completely bizarre behavior. What is he doing if not raising cash, voting in the senate, or campaigning in Iowa? Why is a man from Florida stricken with constant dry mouth and profuse sweating in air conditioned rooms?

See, I give you the news before it breaks. The best kind of journalism.

Internet forum journalism.

[Jonathan Ingram]

They're so fixated on the crimes we do abroad, the big picture, that they don't see that the only way we start caring about the lives of outsiders is if we're the kind of people who actually care about our own first. You can't go right to home base without circling the field first.

Star Trek communist BryanM who would so casually and nonchalantly divide people into "our own" and "outsiders" and brush off international solidarity as an issue of secondary importance lectures others on left-wing politics. Stay classy, dude.

[Mischief Maker]

Star Trek communist BryanM who would so casually and nonchalantly divide people into "our own" and "outsiders" and brush off international solidarity as an issue of secondary importance lectures others on left-wing politics. Stay classy, dude.

One of the founding principles of the United States is "No Taxation without Representation!" Well the logical reverse also applies.

In fact, people seem to forget these days that the tax-free status of religious institutions in the US is an implicit part of the separation of church and state.

[BryanM]

Star Trek communist BryanM who would so casually and nonchalantly divide people into "our own" and "outsiders" and brush off international solidarity as an issue of secondary importance lectures others on left-wing politics. Stay classy, dude.

We're talking about applied policy of the United States, not some magical imaginary thought experiment where tribalists and capitalists aren't in complete control of everything. I guess as a foreigner you're not familiar with all this.

The old man's already being dismissed by smug assholes as a crank for saying poor people have a right to live. Said assholes are also pretty incredulous about his plan to revise the procedures of how drone strikes are carried out, and to not advance the murder machine against Syria and then inevitably into Iran. I believe the kind of words they use to register this disapproval are "pussy", "weak", and "cuck". That's not just from Republicans, but from the most hardcore of Hillary supporters as well.

It would be wonderbunnies if the realm of the possible didn't have to take these people's world view into consideration and a balls-in antiwar politician could be viable here. Some day it might actually be possible, but first we have to reject Reaganism and realign the political frame to a point where the racists have to go pound sand and never be able to vote to get what they want.

[ED-057]

The old man's already being dismissed by smug assholes as a crank for saying poor people have a right to live. Said assholes are also pretty incredulous about his plan to revise the procedures of how drone strikes are carried out, and to not advance the murder machine against Syria and then inevitably into Iran. I believe the kind of words they use to register this disapproval are "pussy", "weak", and "cuck".

Maybe a person who finds himself in this situation should take a page out of Trump's playbook and tell the knuckle draggers to go forth and have intercourse with a chainsaw.

Hesitating to speak against the miltary-industrial complex for fear of being labeled "weak," is rather... weak.

[quash]

Maybe a person who finds himself in this situation should take a page out of Trump's playbook and tell the knuckle draggers to go forth and have intercourse with a chainsaw.

Finally, someone who gets it.

Trump enters an arena and takes it to its finality. Business, politics, even sexual reproduction. He understands that to succeed, you have to follow the rules of the game so closely that most people think you're cheating.

[BryanM]

Maybe a person who finds himself in this situation should take a page out of Trump's playbook and tell the knuckle draggers to go forth and have intercourse with a chainsaw.

Hesitating to speak against the miltary-industrial complex for fear of being labeled "weak," is rather... weak.

"Cut the defense budget it's too goddamn high" is speaking against the military-industrial complex.

Saying "herp derp let's not bomb ISIS" and then losing an election (which is a 100% guaranteed outcome) is absolutely fucktarded. Especially when everyone on the planet is gonna die soon if one of the other numbnuts gets in and nothing gets done to fight climate change.

Guess it's worth it to be pure and blameless for any suffering. It's a high horse we ride when we've had absolutely zero power and zero responsibility for anything for the past 40 years.

[Rob]

Finally, someone who gets it.

Really? Being loud, obnoxious and dumb is still looking like a losing strategy outside of the Republican freak show, which is one thing to be happy about.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... vs-sanders

Now if only everyone would see Hillary as the foul person she is.

[BryanM]

Really? Being loud, obnoxious and dumb is still looking like a losing strategy outside of the Republican freak show, which is one thing to be happy about.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... vs-sanders

Don't take any comfort whatsoever from this information : (

Romney was at 40% at this point too, and etch-a-sketched his way up to 47%. After two years of listening to him 24/7, a presidential candidate that talks about bloody vaginas and detainment camps will seem totally normal. That's not taking into account of how liberal he's free to pivot to.

He is real. Whether his ceiling is identical to Romney's or not remains to be proven - I tell myself there can't possibly be many more racists that weren't already voting (R). That he's trying to get blood out of a turnip.

But that's just speculative wishful thinking.

It's a high horse we ride when we've had absolutely zero power and zero responsibility for anything for the past 40 years.

Honestly I had resigned myself to George Carlin's position. Don't vote, not my responsibility, no blood on mah hands, just stand to the side and at the complete shitshow.

It feels great when you can never be wrong.

[Specineff]

Honestly I had resigned myself to George Carlin's position. Don't vote, not my responsibility, no blood on mah hands, just stand to the side and at the complete shitshow.

It feels great when you can never be wrong.

There's also "None of the above", you know.

[Mischief Maker]

Jesus Christ, stop abstaining! It sends absolutely no message to the powers that be! They don't know if you're not voting out of protest or not voting out of stupidity. Furthermore, absolutely nothing is encouraging them to change the status quo that put them in power! Vote for a third party candidate that represents your views, if they get a significant chunk of the vote, the bastards will sway like the pandering whores that they are.

As loathe as I am to vote for Hillary, I'll still do it for one damned important reason: the Supreme Court. Technically they're the most powerless of the branches, but the esteem built up by the Brown vs Board of Education justices has elevated them to the status of America's Popes. Bush jr. was given two terms and produced the Roberts court, which declared bribery a constitutionally protected right, women as peasants whose sexual freedom was subject to the religious whims of their <strike>owner</strike> employer, and went after the very civil rights legislation that created the esteem that gives SCOTUS its power in the first place.

I do not want Donald Trump choosing the people to be given lifetime dictatorial decision-making power there.

Also I don't want his finger on the button.

[BryanM]

I get that perspective, but the neoliberals by definition don't care about losing. They didn't change after Al Gore, they didn't change after Kerry, they wouldn't change from Hilldiggity. The holy grail is to destroy them by changing who they are.

Sinking her hopes and dreams for a second time to a reformist she had considered nothing more than a harmless crank slug this March? Oh you can bet your balls I'd crawl over broken glass naked to vote against her, and for realigning the entire political electorate.

The reagan political revolution is finally starting to come undone, we need to do our duty to accelerate the process for sure.

[dcharlie]

Jesus Christ, stop abstaining!

this - not just in voting either - felt for a long time that government in the UK has been just seeing how far they can push the boundaries and seeing as no one is doing anything about it they'll keep taking an axe to the poor/disabled etc.

[Mischief Maker]

Jesus Christ, stop abstaining!

this - not just in voting either - felt for a long time that government in the UK has been just seeing how far they can push the boundaries and seeing as no one is doing anything about it they'll keep taking an axe to the poor/disabled etc.

Wasn't there a Judge Dredd comic where they gave Megacity One a vote on whether to end the Judges' Dictatorship or return to Democracy, and the majority decided to stick with the Judges?

[ED-057]

Really? Being loud, obnoxious and dumb is still looking like a losing strategy

Being loud, obnoxious, and dumb is fashionable. What I am proposing is being loud, perhaps somewhat obnoxious, and most importantly, not dumb. Could that be fashionable? Maybe I'm wrong, and there is only one way to win elections (that being the standard strategy, assume the voters are hopeless morons and use calculated deception to win their favor, 'cuz the end justifies the means, etc.)

[Mischief Maker]

I worked for the Kerry campaign in 2004. Not all the voters are hopeless morons. In fact a majority of them are reasonable adults with well-considered viewpoints who are amenable to logical reasoning. I was heartened by the number of people who told me they had been lifelong republicans but the torture issue completely turned them off from Bush jr.

Unfortunately when it comes down to the wire, the campaign rests on who can sway the most undecided voters and these are the most hopeless morons you'll ever meet. October 2004, they've had all the time in the world to look over the two candidates and see the many stark differences between them and they still haven't sat their fat asses down for the one hour it takes to do their due diligence in exercising a right people in other parts of the world are lighting themselves on fire to gain. Spend a few nights trying to get the need to vote through their fat skulls and you'll come away with a clear understanding why the founding fathers created the electoral college.

In a just world, undecided voters and abstainers would have to forfeit their citizenship to illegal aliens who have the will to risk their lives sneaking over the border just for a taste of what this great nation has to offer.

Oh well, I was stationed in Wisconsin and it went to Kerry at twice the margin it went to Gore in 2000, so I did my job!

[Ed Oscuro]

On a recent day when the radio was running tons of coverage about the anti-immigration talk, I had a closer look at an old article the owner of a local Chinese restaurant has by his front door: The man says "The United States has the best system of government in the world after 200 years, but after 6,000 years China is still poor." The guy swam from mainland China to Hong Kong, and had to try three times until he made it (six friends died in those attempts). Sure, maybe it's a bit overblown, but you won't find somebody like that idly suggesting we throw away the needs and dreams of other Americans.

[quash]

For once, a political cartoonist gets something right.

[BulletMagnet]

I notice he left out the "None of your proposals make a lick of sense" cannon.

[Ed Oscuro]

Apparently there's three cannons because Trump hasn't entered the nuclear age yet.

There's really not much fascinating about Trump when you get down to it: He's spent decades practicing this very simple trick of just pretending that nothing gets to him. It doesn't matter if the problem is that he's got no caring for other-than-WASPs or that he wasted a bunch of people's money on shit investments, the answer has always been the same: Big himself up more, it's obviously somebody else's fault. The buck never stops! That seems to be literally all there is to him. It might be a fun and useful trick for other people to learn, but I would rather that it not be used to support insane policies.

[BryanM]

Not a single molecule of an iota more insane than the official GOP platform.

And of course Zyklon Ben likes Trump. It would be super weird if the guy didn't. All those long years of anti-semitic cartoons would have led to naught otherwise.

[Jonathan Ingram]

It would be wonderbunnies if the realm of the possible didn't have to take these people's world view into consideration and a balls-in antiwar politician could be viable here.

Trading principles and the desired ends for short-term gains and more political presence isn't exactly new. It's the ABC of opportunism. This is how German Social-Democracy came to support the war loans in 1914. "A principled anti-war stance and revolutionary defeatism are not viable at present time", they said.

[Mischief Maker]

Neocons firing accusations... of racism?

[Opus131]

Neocons firing accusations... of racism?

It is how republican cucks roll now, hence, why nobody likes them. Starting with Jeb "i love Mexicans" Bush.

[quash]

I thought about it some more and came up with a more accurate depiction: Trump is the JRPG boss you have to beat by casting healing spells on him.

[Mischief Maker]

Neocons firing accusations... of racism?

It is how republican cucks roll now, hence, why nobody likes them. Starting with Jeb "i love Mexicans" Bush.

Distancing yourself from the Klan makes you a "cuck" now?

Well at least with Trump the Republicans aren't hiding behind dog whistles anymore.

[Bananamatic]

i don't know anything about politics but i love this meme

[BulletMagnet]

I thought about it some more and came up with a more accurate depiction: Trump is the JRPG boss you have to beat by casting healing spells on him.

Trump is the broken glitch enemy that easily-entertained ConservaChan posters are now demanding be given his own game.

[quash]

Way to prove my point and your own misunderstanding. Trump is not "broken", nor is he cheating or subverting anything. He's just following the rules, which is something we haven't seen in a very long time.

Also, I am hardly a conservative. Every political alignment test I've ever taken has put me barely left of center.

[quash]

I figured out his plan for the wall: so many people will want to flee America that Mexico will build one to keep them out.

CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP