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Fudoh wrote:The 50Pro draws more power than the VP50, that's why the original PSU was rated with 7A.
Yes I tried to find one but it's really hard to find a high current universal power supply.
Fudoh wrote:Also the 50Pro draws nearly full power, even in standby
Ok good to know.
Fudoh wrote:So you might want to pull the plug when you're not using it.
Yeah that's what I usually do with all my equipement (and even more since I live in Montreal : all their appartements are built in wood, the electric installations are old and not so well finished, and not a day passes where you don't hear firetruck sirens...)
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Speak for yourself: I live in the most densely populated neighbourhood in Montreal (or Quebec for that matter) and nearly all the apartments around here are concrete or brick.
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Guspaz wrote:Speak for yourself: I live in the most densely populated neighbourhood in Montreal (or Quebec for that matter) and nearly all the apartments around here are concrete or brick.
So maybe you have the chance to live in big "tower" or a quite new/well made building. But you have to admit that the generic "3 stairs condo" (so...like...80% of the city...) is brick outside, but wood inside...

A few days ago we were playing WiiU at a friend's appartement (a big one, in concrete) and sudently everything turn off in his living room (and only in the living room). They found out after that some electric circuit melt somewhere... with just a WiiU, a TV and a light...

I don't want to generalize and I didn't mean to be rude at any point, but I don't take my chance with these kind of things :P
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And just for the anecdote, from where I come (La Réunion), it's the Gekkos that mess with electrical circuit :P
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So I've tried the vp50pro with my Gamecube, just to see how it perform against the XRGB-Mini.
But the vp50 seems to have some inconsistencies regarding resolution and color level detection.

I can have three way to connect my gamecube to the vp50 :
- directly to the RCA component input (in YUV mode) with a genuine component cable
- directly to the BNC RGBHV input with a d-terminal cable modded into vga
- into the RCA component input (in RGBS mode) with the modded vga cable through an Extron RGB 160 as a sync combiner

I made my tests with Artemio's test suit.
The RGBHV input doesn't seem to recognize 240p and 480i.
The RGBS input doesn't seem to recognize 480p.
The YUV component input seems to recognize 240p, 480i and 480p.

BUT (because there is a but). The YUV component seems to be plagued with the same problem the XRGB mini have with the black levels (I use the Pluge test to see this) : the black level are not the same between 480p and 480i. 480i seems too dark (240p looks like 480i). RGBS input in 240p and 480i looks like YUV component in 480p (which is the good way for me).
I don't think it's a problem of the test suit or the gamecube/cable because if I feed directly my Denon AVR-1910 with the component ouput of the cube, the black levels are consistent between 480i and 480p.

You can compensate with the brightness settings of the vp50 but you almost have to be on +90 (the max beeing +100) which is ridiculous (and not practical, because the final target is to have a consistent setup for all my consoles in all resolutions).

Am I doing something wrong or are they known problems ?

Seems like the best way to connect my cube is still the XRGB-mini through RGBS... until Marqs releases its project.
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So I finally found an AC Adaptor for the HDFury3 I bought and I can confirm that the range setting of the HDFury is not useful at all for the "WiiU-like" scenarios.
First, the setting only affects the analog output level of the HDFury and not the input. And second, the setting is only effective when the input is YCbCr, it does nothing at all when the input is RGB.
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I'm pretty sure the HD Fury 3 should do fine with upscaling the Wii U's limited RGB. Maybe you should post on their forum.
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I don't think so.
Their forum seems to have been wiped.
And I already found a thread that was saying the same thing, I just comfirmed it by doing my own test :
Joelepain wrote:Hum...
From this post http://dme.ghost2.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25052
It seems like even the hdfury apply the limited->full range conversion only when YCbCr is fed on the hdmi input, and do nothing when RGB is fed because it assumes RGB is always full range.
Unfortunately the link doesn't work anymore.
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Damn, wonder what happened to the forum? Hopefully it's just some database error and the company is still doing good.
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That link works fine for me.

I was not impressed with my only experience posting on that forum. I bought a Dr.HDMI, and it breaks HDCP (HDCP is fine with HDMI directly plugged in, no HDCP adding the Dr.HDMI) despite what the product descriptions claim. I asked on the forum and they just blamed nVidia drivers o_O
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oh wait, the forum is totally fine, you just have to log in first.
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and the company is still doing good.
well, except for this: https://torrentfreak.com/warner-bros-an ... er-160104/
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