DARIUS BURST CHRONICLE SAVIOURS (STEAM/PS4/Vita)

[Zaarock]

Genesis and Murakumo can rest their burst next to a laser and move into it at any point. Others need to run into the laser during the startup of their burst. The latter is easier than you might expect & doubly so if the laser is moving towards you.

[Icarus]

You don't need to cut-in counter with Genesis - or Gaiden, for that matter - as its beam works like it does in G-Darius

You mean it's beam deploys faster than the other ships ?

No, Genesis' beam work like in G-Darius, where you can activate it at any time, and the only thing you need to do to counter is to hold it against an enemy beam.
For the "traditional" Burst Unit ships you have to almost come into contact with the beam - a split second before taking the hit - and activate your beam at that moment to counter it. It will not activate otherwise, and you'll take at least one shield hit, usually three or four.

[Vally]

You don't need to cut-in counter with Genesis - or Gaiden, for that matter - as its beam works like it does in G-Darius

You mean it's beam deploys faster than the other ships ?

No, Genesis' beam work like in G-Darius, where you can activate it at any time, and the only thing you need to do to counter is to rapidfire against an enemy laser.
For the "traditional" Burst Unit ships you have to almost come into contact with the beam - a split second before taking the hit - and activate your beam at that moment to counter it. It will not activate otherwise, and you'll take at least one shield hit, usually three or four.

Exactly this. I should've probably clarified that I was talking about Legend / Next (and Formula?)

Genesis and Murakumo you can just cross beams at any time but Legend and Next require more precise timing and it's harder to trigger it.

Origin and Second have no burst laser or countering at all, but their base scoring rates are massively increased to compensate, so you'll want to be steering well away from any red beams with those.

I'm not sure at all about the Gaiden bomb's reaction to lasers so I can't comment there.

RE: Cut in timing with Legend/Next, the way to think about it is to recognise that delay between the button being held and the burst laser firing. You want to be moving into an enemy's beam in that delay period, so you'll hold to burst, THEN touch the enemy beam, and you should counter it okay. It takes practice but when you've nailed it, it's a colossal amount easier.

Seen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QWGQcU-p1Y&t=369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QWGQcU-p1Y&t=612

[Durandal]

You don't need to cut-in counter with Genesis - or Gaiden, for that matter - as its beam works like it does in G-Darius

You mean it's beam deploys faster than the other ships ?

No, Genesis' beam work like in G-Darius, where you can activate it at any time, and the only thing you need to do to counter is to hold it against an enemy beam.
For the "traditional" Burst Unit ships you have to almost come into contact with the beam - a split second before taking the hit - and activate your beam at that moment to counter it. It will not activate otherwise, and you'll take at least one shield hit, usually three or four.

Don't you have to mash the Burst button with Genesis when Counterbursting, like how it worked in G-Darius?

[Vally]

Don't you have to mash the Burst button with Genesis when Counterbursting, like how it worked in G-Darius?

I don't think that mechanic is in this. The counterburst strength you get from the Genesis ship in this is dependent on how long you collide lasers, up to a gold laser. You can just hold the fire button without the need to tap for those additional bursts.

Capture ball me if wrong.

[1up]

Yes, I've had great success doing this also with the Genesis ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI_znaSVdOA

You don't need to cut-in counter with Genesis - or Gaiden, for that matter - as its beam works like it does in G-Darius so "great success" is meaningless in this context.

Gaiden has the Black Hole bomb, so how does that work? I really prefer this ship, but can't seem to do shit against bosses with the bomb?

[Icarus]

Gaiden has the Black Hole bomb, so how does that work? I really prefer this ship, but can't seem to do shit against bosses with the bomb?

Gaiden plays like Origin/Second (without the augmented attack power), but with a mid-range bomb you charge up and can use as much as you like.

[Steelix100]

Yes, I've had great success doing this also with the Genesis ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI_znaSVdOA

You don't need to cut-in counter with Genesis - or Gaiden, for that matter - as its beam works like it does in G-Darius so "great success" is meaningless in this context.
Cut-in counters are for ships with "traditional" Burst Units eg Legend, Next, Assault, Formula etc that need a "near-death" trigger to activate.
Origin and Second don't have Burst Units at all, so cutting-in is really another way of saying "I'm an idiot and want to die". :V

It's actually possible to go through a burst laser (with any ship, I think) without doing a counter and without getting hit. I'm not entirely sure on how it works, but I believe it's related to the bombs; you need to pass through it just frames after a bomb touches the laser in front of you. It was pretty necessary in the PSP version vs Great Thing since it had an attack that was literally unavoidable with Origin unless you managed to master this nigh-impossible technique. And also this only works with Burst lasers, try it with any other kind of laser and you will get hit.

Well, it's possible unless they changed it in DBAC/DBCS for some reason (notably, the unavoidable attack is no longer unavoidable).

[Zaarock]

Just barely managed to beat the CS mode final mission after a lot of tries, what a rush. CS is superb but can feel grindy if you just want to reach the end. I'll make a map showing fastest routes to points of interest some time after the game is released.

[Enemy]

ps4 approaching for xmas from the wife this year so hope to god I read good comments. really hope this will be a good xmas for daruis.

[rtw]

In the options control menu there are two burst settings:

BURST
F:BURST

Can someone tell me what the difference is ?

[Vally]

In the options control menu there are two burst settings:

BURST
F:BURST

Can someone tell me what the difference is ?

With Legend, Next and Formula ships, you could lock your burst beam on the spot by double tapping the burst button, then control it by moving without holding down the fire button.

Instead of double tapping burst, you can use the F. Burst as a short cut key.

[rtw]

With Legend, Next and Formula ships, you could lock your burst beam on the spot by double tapping the burst button, then control it by moving without holding down the fire button.

Instead of double tapping burst, you can use the F. Burst as a short cut key.

Thanks for the heads up, been double tapping up to now when setting up "angle protection"

The counter-burst is still not clicking with me, I can do it consistently and then the next 4 times I'm lasered

[Durandal]

Does anyone know if Burst Mode from the PSP game is present in CS?

[Vally]

Sorry to kill your flow, but could somebody please give me an executive summary of what those 200 and 3000 stage modes are about? In all my search I could find no satisfactory explanation. Thanks & cheers.

The game consists of two separate modes - AC Mode, and CS Mode.

AC Mode is a direct conversion of the Dariusburst Another Chronicle EX arcade cabinet, complete with 32:9 aspect ratio and dual screen support. This contains Original and Original EX mode (Choose a route, play 3 stages), but also contains something called Chronicle Mode. This is what the 3000 stage mode is all about.

Basically in Chronicle Mode, you start off on one planet with its own mission grid:



Each of those hexes represents a set of levels with a clear requirement. By completing a hex and fulfilling the clear conditions, you then 'liberate' that area on the map, and unlock everything else around it. By exploring the map and liberating certain areas, you unlock more planets to travel to, more missions all with their own different conditions and rules.

Chronicle mode progress is held online in a 'virtual cabinet', and progression in Chronicle isn't just you - It's everyone else on the same virtual cabinet as you, so you're working together with everyone else online to unlock everything that Chronicle has to offer.

The second game mode is CS mode, which is a home console / PC optimised version of the game, designed for a single screen instead of two, with exclusive content such as new levels, a new ship, new music, bosses, etc. This is the what the 200 stage mode is about - It's kinda like Chronicle mode, except it's your progression only, but the concept is almost exactly the same - You travel from hex to hex completing sets of missions with their own conditions and ships, with the main difference being you earn points for completing missions, and can use these points to choose your own custom ship / configuration setup before heading out onto missions.

I hope this helps clarify.

Does anyone know if Burst Mode from the PSP game is present in CS?

Wasn't this where you only had a single life and no continues but a maxed out ship? I'm not familiar with the PSP version very much at all.

CS mode is similar to this by default - You can't continue on a mission. If you lose your lives, mission fails and you have to start it again.

[Icarus]

PS4 version when? :3

[Zaarock]

Looks like PS4 release is delayed to December 2nd: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/ ... r-1212015/

Does anyone know if Burst Mode from the PSP game is present in CS?

Wasn't this where you only had a single life and no continues but a maxed out ship? I'm not familiar with the PSP version very much at all.

CS mode is similar to this by default - You can't continue on a mission. If you lose your lives, mission fails and you have to start it again.

You can use a fully customized ship in CS mode to do something similar to this, but score is invalidated.

[Vally]

You can use a custom ship in CS mode to do something similar to this, but score is invalidated.

Huh! Wasn't aware at all that custom ship did that. TIL.

[DKA_Darius]

I find a strange situation in CS mode, you can recover your burst by attack enemies in some mission, but sometime it doesn't work, you must destory enemies.
And there is no replay function.

[Durandal]

Does anyone know if Burst Mode from the PSP game is present in CS?

Wasn't this where you only had a single life and no continues but a maxed out ship? I'm not familiar with the PSP version very much at all.

CS mode is similar to this by default - You can't continue on a mission. If you lose your lives, mission fails and you have to start it again.

Ah, too bad it's not included, it was my favourite mode. I always wanted to see the weapon switching mechanic return in future Darius games, having each weapon type be able to cancel another certain bullet type did make for some interesting situations. Maybe an idea for a new ship in the future?

[Zaarock]

Ah, too bad it's not included, it was my favourite mode. I always wanted to see the weapon switching mechanic return in future Darius games, having each weapon type be able to cancel another certain bullet type did make for some interesting situations. Maybe an idea for a new ship in the future?

Murakumo has this feature. Different option formations cancel different bullet types. There's plenty of CS missions where you use murakumo which can be fun to play for score.

[Strider77]

Looks like PS4 release is delayed to December 2nd: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/ ... r-1212015/

How dare that happen...

[CStarFlare]

Does CS mode ever give you a total score across all missions? It'd be interesting to be ranked on that more than on individual missions - makes it worth playing for score without having to hunt for individual missions that actually have others playing it for score.

[jandrogo]

Looks like PS4 release is delayed to December 2nd: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/ ... r-1212015/

How dare that happen...

Ps store games are updated every tuesday, so I am assuming the release date it's 1st of december or 8th december

[Zach Keene]

I don't follow PSN releases too closely but there's been at least one example of an off-Tuesday update (Trails in the Sky SC a month ago was released on a Thursday.)

[roadpuppets]

Dafuq is the deal with the Playstation dates? I have no idea when I can actually purchase this, I've seen every day listed between 11/30 -12/5, that is except fot 12/1... the day the store actually updates (NA). Also the prices are still apparently a state secret. -_-.

[Domino]

I feel excited to play DB for once this week. Too bad it will have to be on a Thursday but oh well it will be here soon enough!

[parallaxscroll2]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/ ... r-1212015/

Dariusburst: Chronicle Saviours, PS4, PS Vita — Digital (PS4 ver. out 12/2, Vita ver. out 11/30)

[jepjepjep]

Thanks for the link. Only a few more days. In the meantime, PS4 owners can play Salamander and Life Force! They are very good ports too!

https://twitter.com/hamster_corp

[DwightDL]

Any of you playing on Vita? I'm posting from Thailand where it's been Nov. 30th for quite some time, and I'm just waiting for the NA PSN store to catch up to me (my Vita is still on NA region).