CAVE Shooting Collection Kan X360

[Xyga]

I think they removed VGA as well.

[nosorrow]

They put in a 1/8" jack that requires you to purchase a separate break-out cable for component output. They retained the HDMI output port.

Please tell me what I need to buy exactly to use my component cables.

[HydrogLox]

There is no such thing for the Xbox 360 E 'Stingray'. There are some specs on the internet that quote 'component & HDMI' but that is because they can't tell 'component' from 'composite'. That output jack only supports a 3 RCA connector cable - one connector each for audio left and right and one for composite video. So it's only good for 480i or to get analog audio into a stereo amplifier.

The latest suggestion for the E was the pricy HDFury II or HDFury III in HDMI to Component?

[ssturtle]

FYI Solaris currently has this for $257.59 USD, not a bad deal with the USD being very strong against the Yen.
http://solarisjapan.com/collections/x36 ... on-the-end

I ordered mine late last week and my copy just arrived today.
I don't know if Cave every reissued these sets with the updated DLC disc after the initial shipment but I did not receive a separate updated DLC disc, just the one inside the sealed box.

I own all the previous releases and just wanted a smaller box set to keep on the shelf.

Hopefully someone who needed this can also take advantage of the lower price on this.

[waiwainl]

FYI Solaris currently has this for $257.59 USD, not a bad deal with the USD being very strong against the Yen.
http://solarisjapan.com/collections/x36 ... on-the-end
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That is a really good deal! That is lower than what I paid when it launched

[Skykid]

FYI Solaris currently has this for $257.59 USD, not a bad deal with the USD being very strong against the Yen.
http://solarisjapan.com/collections/x36 ... on-the-end
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That is a really good deal! That is lower than what I paid when it launched

It was always going to fall in value, and probably will continue to do so.

[waiwainl]

What makes you think it will continue to fall? Usually when stock is left over it indeed will fall, but after that it will go up.

[Skykid]

What makes you think it will continue to fall? Usually when stock is left over it indeed will fall, but after that it will go up.

It's a cheap box full of nigh on worthless Cave games, many of which were printed internationally, with a bunch of superplay DVD's thrown into a multi-case and minus nearly all of the additional bonus materials. It's also got a messed up DLC package only some of which were rectified with an additional disc.

Compared to the individual LE packages, which are much nicer, it doesn't have anything particularly special on offer - and most of those are worthless too.

CAVE will also likely republish the entire set with bonuses for a current gen console first chance they get, or allow a third party holding the license.

So call it a hunch.

[ATTRACTS]

What makes you think it will continue to fall? Usually when stock is left over it indeed will fall, but after that it will go up.

It's a cheap box full of nigh on worthless Cave games, many of which were printed internationally, with a bunch of superplay DVD's thrown into a multi-case and minus nearly all of the additional bonus materials. It's also got a messed up DLC package only some of which were rectified with an additional disc.

Compared to the individual LE packages, which are much nicer, it doesn't have anything particularly special on offer - and most of those are worthless too.

CAVE will also likely republish the entire set with bonuses for a current gen console first chance they get, or allow a third party holding the license.

So call it a hunch.

The silly Cave hatred is strong with this one ^

Try grabbing all of the superplay dvd's individually (not even the games, just the superplays) and let us know how much you end up paying. The DVD's are not thrown into a multi case, they are each individually packaged. The games are the exact same content as the retail releases and so are the DVDs so I'm not sure where you get the missing bonus material argument from. It's ok to hate on Cave and what you consider "worthless" games but acting like this box set isn't worth the money is laughable. At $256, you're paying roughly $12.80 for each game and superplay. In any universe other than your own, that is a superb price.

Games:
Deathsmiles
Deathsmiles 2
Mushi
Mushi Futari
Espgaluda 2
DFK
DFK BL
Muchi
Pink Sweets
Akai Katana
SDJ
Guwange


Superplays:
Futari
DS Black Label
Futari Black Label
DFK
DFK Black Label
Esp 2
Deathsmiles
Akai Katana

[yyr]

CAVE will also likely republish the entire set with bonuses for a current gen console first chance they get, or allow a third party holding the license.

What makes you think that they're going to invest the kind of money required to port their entire catalog to a new console, when they can't even afford to develop one new arcade or console game right now?

Seeing how they're handling Mushi on Steam, I think it's safer to assume that some (not all) of their catalog *could* wind up there, but other than that I think it'll just be 360, MAME at some point in the future, and little else.

[waiwainl]

The games are the exact same content as the retail releases and so are the DVDs so I'm not sure where you get the missing bonus material argument from.

The JP Amazon releases had specials attached to the box.
I would not be surprised the box price will go up, once the stock in the world becomes scarce.

And Skykid is surely not hating CAVE, he probably played them all on PCB. He's just jealous he never had an XBOX360

[Xyga]

The missing bonus material ? Just a few crappy picture galleries and themes IIRC.

[Strider77]

The silly Cave hatred is strong with this one ^

He called/dismissed your post as silly cave hate rant... NOW WHAT Skykid! You got served!!!

[Skykid]

I have another tub of sand here if there are any more vaginas that need dusting.

I was asked a question, it's like you didn't want an answer or something.

So let's recap and fix a few errors:

Cheap cardboard outer box holding a bunch of Cave stuff whose individual value is worth very little, and if you minus the original boxes, manuals, and LE stuff and boil it down to bare discs, very likely about $10 a game - check

It's not the Superplays in the ghetto multicases, it's the games (way better...) - check

The music CD's were a bonus only first time around. Didn't appear in KAN. No Guwange OST. Also multicased - check

KAN reprint was milk no.4, instantly reducing the value of the original collection release by including the absent SDOJ, which was obviously held back for milk purposes - check

Art books including Akai Katana & Deathsmiles, absent - check

No Ketsui or DOJ due to 5pb license, therefore not a complete 360 collection - check

Several superplay DVDs missing, including Mushihimesama, Ketsui, DOJ Black, Ibara - check

Guwange as a download code with a server based half life - check

Fucked up DLC install disc only rectified for some people - check


When this boxset launched preorders sold out and it was reselling confidently at $500 for quite some time. I predicted its value would fall dramatically. Most people told me I was wrong (as they do) and that it would only increase.

It's now available for 50% cheaper, brand new. I based my prediction on factors including CAVE's business practices, the availability of western localisations, missing content, fucked up DLC discs, the general quality of the box, waning interest in CAVE games due to overkill (this was a third 360 milk after Platinum releases, and then a fourth with KAN) etc.

Don't fight it, this is how CAVE do.

And Skykid is surely not hating CAVE, he probably played them all on PCB. He's just jealous he never had an XBOX360

Only hating on their milking. I have the PCBs, but I also got all the 360 LE's bar one I think, for the arrange modes, faceplates, OSTs and other junk. Akai Katana Shin Cave Shop LE is the only one I hold dear these days.

I don't actually doubt that if you had none of these games that the Cave collection is the ultimate shmup buy - at $250 don't even think twice. Double dipping on the other hand is idiocy. And the price has fallen, as predicted.

The silly Cave hatred is strong with this one ^

He called/dismissed your post as silly cave hate rant... NOW WHAT Skykid! You got served!!!

I'm officially not allowed to riot anymore Strider. I'm boring now.

[ATTRACTS]

I have another tub of sand here if there are any more vaginas that need dusting.

HOLY SHIT. Edgy as fuck!

[Skykid]

I have another tub of sand here if there are any more vaginas that need dusting.

HOLY SHIT. Edgy as fuck!

The embarrassing response ever.

I'll just assume you agree with everything else.

[dorelas]

Anybody who has this and (preferably) lives in Europe , please don_t PM me. i am interested in something there and i have something what is not included in the collection.

Cheers

[Strider77]

I have another tub of sand here if there are any more vaginas that need dusting.



HOLY SHIT. Edgy as fuck!

I confess I was totally (and obviously I think) stirring the pot a bit with my comment on the matter. I'll also confess chuckling at work when I read that bucket of sand comment. I just didn't really ecpect anything to manifest from my prodding... it was worth the few key strokes.

For the record I don't really share Skykid's negativity on this set... but I guess I sacrifice my morals at times for a bag of popcorn and a good chuckle now again.

[Skykid]

Anybody who has this and (preferably) lives in Europe , please don_t PM me. i am interested in something there and i have something what is not included in the collection.

Cheers

Does anyone have any idea what the fuck this means?

[Xyga]

No. Must be a fellow frenchie.

[ATTRACTS]

I have another tub of sand here if there are any more vaginas that need dusting.



HOLY SHIT. Edgy as fuck!

I confess I was totally (and obviously I think) stirring the pot a bit with my comment on the matter. I'll also confess chuckling at work when I read that bucket of sand comment. I just didn't really ecpect anything to manifest from my prodding... it was worth the few key strokes.

For the record I don't really share Skykid's negativity on this set... but I guess I sacrifice my morals at times for a bag of popcorn and a good chuckle now again.

I laughed too. And for the record, I understand his points but for a person who is just starting out (or someone who wants to start going down the road of learning/collecting), I think it's a pretty sweet deal. Like I mentioned before, the superplays alone in my opinion make it worth buying. Everything, when picked apart enough will have flaws, it's not a perfect set but it's solid collection. To each his own

[Skykid]

And for the record, I understand his points but for a person who is just starting out (or someone who wants to start going down the road of learning/collecting), I think it's a pretty sweet deal.

You know I said the same thing

I don't actually doubt that if you had none of these games that the Cave collection is the ultimate shmup buy - at $250 don't even think twice.

And I've always said that. But the guys who sold their LE's for peanuts or bought three of these sets expecting the value to appreciate (true story) are really going about it the wrong way. If you bought this for $500 expecting it to hit a grand, well I did say from the outset that's a serious mistake.

If you double-dip, well that's just absolutely retarded. You may as well give money to a bunch of homeless people or chuck a wad in the nearest river.

For the record the Superplays fluctuate. I got all of them + two full size art books (Deathsmiles and Mushi) for £100 on this forum not too many years back. Funnily enough I think the guy sold that lot because he bought this very Cave collection. I consider myself the lucky one.

[ATTRACTS]

And for the record, I understand his points but for a person who is just starting out (or someone who wants to start going down the road of learning/collecting), I think it's a pretty sweet deal.

You know I said the same thing

I don't actually doubt that if you had none of these games that the Cave collection is the ultimate shmup buy - at $250 don't even think twice.

And I've always said that. But the guys who sold their LE's for peanuts or bought three of these sets expecting the value to appreciate (true story) are really going about it the wrong way. If you bought this for $500 expecting it to hit a grand, well I did say from the outset that's a serious mistake.

If you double-dip, well that's just absolutely retarded. You may as well give money to a bunch of homeless people or chuck a wad in the nearest river.

For the record the Superplays fluctuate. I got all of them + two full size art books (Deathsmiles and Mushi) for £100 on this forum not too many years back. Funnily enough I think the guy sold that lot because he bought this very Cave collection. I consider myself the lucky one.

And all of that makes absolute sense. Unfortunately, your initial posts (the ones I replied to) didn't say anything about double dips or the experience you've seen with people selling all their shit to invest in the box sets. It was only later that you went into the "if you had none of these games, it would be a ultimate shmup buy"...which was all I was trying to say in the first place. It just came off as needlessly negative when the guy was just trying to share a deal.

"It's a cheap box full of nigh on worthless Cave games, many of which were printed internationally, with a bunch of superplay DVD's thrown into a multi-case and minus nearly all of the additional bonus materials. It's also got a messed up DLC package only some of which were rectified with an additional disc.

Compared to the individual LE packages, which are much nicer, it doesn't have anything particularly special on offer - and most of those are worthless too.

CAVE will also likely republish the entire set with bonuses for a current gen console first chance they get, or allow a third party holding the license.

So call it a hunch."

Anyway....points taken and agreed/disagreed on. And yes, things fluctuate and you can find the once and a while wholesale bargain, but still realistically speaking, buying each individually, even at the lowest of prices, you still can't beat the price of the box set. Moving along

[Strider77]

And I've always said that. But the guys who sold their LE's for peanuts or bought three of these sets expecting the value to appreciate (true story) are really going about it the wrong way. If you bought this for $500 expecting it to hit a grand, well I did say from the outset that's a serious mistake.

Who did that?!?!

[Skykid]

And I've always said that. But the guys who sold their LE's for peanuts or bought three of these sets expecting the value to appreciate (true story) are really going about it the wrong way. If you bought this for $500 expecting it to hit a grand, well I did say from the outset that's a serious mistake.

Who did that?!?!

Go back to the original Collection (pre-Kan) thread and find a guy who went absolutely nutty over the release.

It just came off as needlessly negative when the guy was just trying to share a deal.

You need to remember, I was only directly responding to the guy who was surprised it was now selling for less than when he bought it. I have always stood by my predictions and original points regarding the quality of this particular Cave milk. To me it has always felt like a budget box reissued twice in a desperate cash grab before insolvency.

[Strider77]

I never had a desire for it since I bought the limited editions. I managed to get my hands on the DLC disc on its own.

[d3vak]

You need to remember, I was only directly responding to the guy who was surprised it was now selling for less than when he bought it. I have always stood by my predictions and original points regarding the quality of this particular Cave milk. To me it has always felt like a budget box reissued twice in a desperate cash grab before insolvency.

Well, yeah. It is a budget box, which was really, really nice for people like me who got late (so damn late) to the X360 CAVE party... And that made that release very valuable to me. But I also get your point, it truly IS a low quality release to the collector's eyes, so I think it is normal for the box to not gain value as a LE would.
Nevertheless, the Kan box only brought SDOJ's manual with it, and while I would like to have all the other manuals as well, I can live without them since I can play the damn games.

[Thjodbjorn]

Now that Amazon Japan is shipping to the US on many things, it might be worth pointing out that this includes this collection at retail. So if someone is still missing stuff or new to the Cave STG 360 game, this might be a good get.