Good PS2 Strategy RPG's??...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:54 am

This weekend, I played some Faselei! on a NGPC emulator, and really loved it!

I tried Growlanser Generations at Game Crazy tonight, and wasn't that thrilled with it. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness looks good.

I guess I'm just looking for something similar to Faselei! on the PS2. Fire Emblem on the GC does look pretty similar, from the videos I've seen.

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:01 am

Disgaea for PS2 native stuff, Final Fantasy Tactics for PS1 stuff. Disgaea 2 is coming soon in Japan, hopefully it'll get localised before too long.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:21 am

Faselei is by far my favorite NGPC game. Awesome that you're playing it!

It's a pretty unique game, so there's nothing quite like it on PS2. Metal Gear Acid on PSP is probably the most similar strategy game in terms of gameplay system. If you just dig the whole mech thing, you should probably check out Front Mission 4.

Apart from that, all the Nippon Ichi games should be worth checking out (Disgaea, Phantom Brave, La Pucelle).

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:08 am

Seven Force wrote:Faselei is by far my favorite NGPC game. Awesome that you're playing it!

It's a pretty unique game, so there's nothing quite like it on PS2. Metal Gear Acid on PSP is probably the most similar strategy game in terms of gameplay system. If you just dig the whole mech thing, you should probably check out Front Mission 4.

Apart from that, all the Nippon Ichi games should be worth checking out (Disgaea, Phantom Brave, La Pucelle).

Yeah, I loved it! I'm not currently playing it; I have yet to get a NGPC. Thanks for the suggestions!

I suppose there are no card-based strategy games on the PS2? Because I also tried SNK vs. Capcom: Card Fighter's Clash - SNK Version and loved that as well!

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:18 am

Except for N1's SRPGs, nothing else has really stood out domestic-wise. Counting JP-only SRPGs, Berwick Saga is worth a look and so are the Super Robot Wars games if you like mecha.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:51 am

Gladius is a good game that i feel bears mentioning. It was released on all 3 consoles and developed by lucasarts -- one of their rare breaks from star-wars releated crap these days. The plot isn't anything special but the gameplay is really fun, and the game also features multiplayer. i haven't gotten very far in this game even though I've owned it for a while, but the level of strategy is very hgh and the amount of character customization you can do is great.

TalkingOctopus · Post by **TalkingOctopus** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:25 am

Disgaea is great! It had superb level design. I only had to repeat stages in order to level up once in the game -- to kill the final boss.

I didn't like Final Fantasy Tactics as much. It was really fun and challenging up until it destroyed my game. You come to a point where you have to fight 1v1 againist this incredibly powerful guy. I had no chance of winning. Unfortunately, I saved my game immediately before the battle and can no longer avoid it. Maybe I'm just sore I couldn't finish the game.

I also didn't like Phantom Brave that much. I had to spend more time repeating the levels in order to level up. The system is more annoying than Disgaea and the level design is not as good. It wasn't as fun as Disgaea.

I have LaPucelle sitting on my shelf, but I haven't given it a try yet. What do you guys think of it?

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:44 pm

I played disgaea quite a lot, but I never really found it all that much fun. Everyone says its fantastic, just wasnt my cup of tea...

Post by **nZero** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:23 pm

Ganelon wrote:Except for N1's SRPGs, nothing else has really stood out domestic-wise. Counting JP-only SRPGs, Berwick Saga is worth a look and so are the Super Robot Wars games if you like mecha.

I figure out of anyone here, you would be the one most likely to know this: how did the Langrisser III PS2 remake turn out?

judesalmon · Post by **judesalmon** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:06 pm

Stella Deus.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:19 pm

dave4shmups wrote:I suppose there are no card-based strategy games on the PS2? Because I also tried SNK vs. Capcom: Card Fighter's Clash - SNK Version and loved that as well!

I don't know of anything on PS2, but word has it there's gonna be a new SNK Cardfighters Clash on Nintendo DS, so lets keep our fingers crossed.

kong · Post by **kong** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:49 pm

You might want to check out Culdcept on ps2. Most people describe it as Magic the Gathering meets Monopoly with a little japanese rpg elements thrown in. It's an overlooked gem and it's worth checking out if you can find a copy.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:00 am

kong wrote:You might want to check out Culdcept on ps2. Most people describe it as Magic the Gathering meets Monopoly with a little japanese rpg elements thrown in. It's an overlooked gem and it's worth checking out if you can find a copy.

That definately looks right up my alley; thanks!

And done by NEC Interchannel!

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:04 am

You shouldn't have to pay any more than $10 new for PS2 Culdcept either. If you like it, there's plenty more 32-bit installments in the series.

Diabollokus · Post by **Diabollokus** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:53 am

I bought Ring of Red a few days ago for like a couple of quid in gamestop

I've played it for 20 mins, got bored at the speed of the combat then turned it off.......... nice idea but just too bloody slow. not like it

I need to pick up Disgaea myself, meaning to do so for awhile. Its just a bit cute, not sure If I'll like it or not.

What is the deal with la purcelle tactics, seen it cheap, is it any good? looks very old school.

To be honest I've got 3 (2 in a few days

) squaresoft RPGs to get out of the way then its on to shin megami tensai Lucifers call

Last Guardian · Post by **Last Guardian** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:14 pm

Diabollokus wrote: To be honest I've got 3 (2 in a few days ) squaresoft RPGs to get out of the way then its on to shin megami tensai Lucifers call

You're in for a treat, SMT is by far my favourite RPG this generation. It's simply brilliant.

For strategy RPG's I seriously recommend the original Dynasty Tactics. It's storybased (learn some Chinese history while playing deep scorebased game = win/win) and sometimes narrative heavy but allows for great tactical experimentation and it's combo system is immensly deep. Up there with Advance Wars and Disgaea as this gen's best (well my fav's anyway

).

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:20 pm

I would like to try some of the J rpgs, is the language barrier much of a problem?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:17 am

None at all really. You might not immediately understand everything until you experiment for a half hour or get all the secrets unless you find a FAQ but all JP-only SRPGs are very easy to pick up and play.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:47 pm

kong wrote:You might want to check out Culdcept on ps2. Most people describe it as Magic the Gathering meets Monopoly with a little japanese rpg elements thrown in. It's an overlooked gem and it's worth checking out if you can find a copy.

I did play that, and Metal Gear Acid, yesterday at Game Crazy. I went with Acid, buI did enjoy Culdcept. I will definately have to check out Gladius. I assume FF: Tactics is probably pretty pricey by now.

@Ganelon-32 bit installments? On what consoles?

TalkingOctopus · Post by **TalkingOctopus** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:02 pm

I need to pick up Disgaea myself, meaning to do so for awhile. Its just a bit cute, not sure If I'll like it or not.

If you are not an anime fan, the story will be very painful. It is not the greatest story in the world, but it works. It is kind of rediculous, but it did make me laugh a few times. You can switch the voice to Japanese with subtitles, which I recommend. Fortunately, if you hate the story, you can skip straight on to the gameplay. I watched all of the sequences and enjoyed them, but I also enjoy anime.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:29 pm

dave4shmups wrote: @Ganelon-32 bit installments? On what consoles?

PS and SS of course. The games are Japanese but if you understood the PS2 version, the earlier ones will pose no difficulty.

it290 · Post by **it290** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:48 am

I assume FF: Tactics is probably pretty pricey by now.

It was for a while, but they did a Greatest Hits release of it. I got one for $20 new not long ago.

Limbrooke · Post by **Limbrooke** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:16 pm

kong wrote:You might want to check out Culdcept on ps2. Most people describe it as Magic the Gathering meets Monopoly with a little japanese rpg elements thrown in. It's an overlooked gem and it's worth checking out if you can find a copy.

Culdcept is definitely a fine game. I was pretty pleased to hear when it was being released in English since prior to Saturn in Jap was the only outlet.
Good thinking kong.