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So, you guys know the official trailer came out two days ago and it's got, like, talking in it and stuff. A much better measurement of what's coming that the hype teasers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

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Seems to announce a smörgåsbord for fans, Jedi-no-fukkatsu style.

It's almost certain to look awesome, I just hope it won't be tasteless...
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I'm not generally the fanboy type, but I'm having a hard time containing my boner for this film.
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It looks the part - dirty, real. Not shiny and tacky like the prequels.

The real killer for the prequels was stilted dialogue and wooden acting, so hopefully that's gone with Lucas. Given I was pleasantly surprised by Rebels not being childish and terrible, I actually have expectations for VIII not being horrific.

Still not sure about the original cast being there, hopefully it's extended cameos only.
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I'm less hype after this trailer than I was after the silent teasers. Some of the delivery of the dialogue is suspect, and I personally don't think it looks dirty enough. I know digital is a prerequisite these days, but at least give it a filter to age it slightly (I would).

I'm happy with Ford and others being present - they should be since this is episode 7 - and I'm sure their involvement will be handled well enough by Abrams.

That said, even though Abrams demonstrated he clearly understands Spielbergian 80sness with Super 8, both in adventure tone and horribly unnecessary schmaltz, I'll not go in with high expectations for this. After the prequels being a horrendous blow to the franchise, I don't think anyone should.

I'm still not sure about Boyega as the lead, and I don't like the too-obvious storm trooper Nazi rally. I'm also not sure if that girl can act. We'll see.
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Skykid wrote:I'm less hype after this trailer than I was after the silent teasers. Some of the delivery of the dialogue is suspect, and I personally don't think it looks dirty enough. I know digital is a prerequisite these days, but at least give it a filter to age it slightly (I would).
This was my reaction as well. I was a bit more excited before, but this trailer reminds me I should be more realistic. It'll be fine, probably, but it's already missing the charm, nostalgia, and other intangibles. Maybe those are unfair expectations.

Harrison's one or two lines also didn't sit right with me. I think the charm of Han Solo's character that was a real part of Ford's personality has long since faded and he's in full-on estrogen-enriched kindly grandpa mode. I'm not sure I'm ready to see that kind of Han Solo. Even when he was hugging ewoks he still had a look on his face like he was just counting the minutes until the bar opened.

And it's still way too clean. Maybe HD Star Wars just isn't for me, but I need grit on the film. And still too much CG for my tastes.

Bit of an up and down. That music and the X-Wings hit me hard, but then Darth Maul v2.0 doing that goofy grab pose brings me back to earth.
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Huh. I'm actually more cautiously optimistic with this trailer than I was with the teasers. Seeing the guy about to lightsaber fight the badguy and looking like he's going to shit his pants with fear and all.

I've said it before (maybe in this thread) and I'll say it again. Putting Jedis at the height of their power in movies is like having Neo fight his way through the Matrix after becoming "The One." It's the journey to godhood that's interesting. Actual gods tearing through mortals like a hot knife through butter is. boring.

And thank goat the stormtroopers are no longer disposable clones. Dare I hope against hope these films will retcon the prequels out of existence?

That said, Han Solo is the last character who should be waxing philosophical about the force.
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I think any SW fan's general error is somehow being subconsciously optimistic that with any new entry the magic of the original trilogy will somehow be revisited.

Times have changed a lot, movies and their makers and producers have changed a lot - and for the worse, we can all agree.

Of all possible directors, I certainly don't think Abrams is the worst pick, but will he restore balance to the series in a way we would consider absolute justice? No. That's almost impossible, and frankly he isn't good enough to achieve something of such magnitude.

The hope should be that he gets it at least half right, has a few neat ideas and makes an entertaining movie. To think the high adventure, wonderful nostalgia and discovery of the originals will be rekindled is a step too far.
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Of all possible directors, I certainly don't think Abrams is the worst pick, but will he restore balance to the series in a way we would consider absolute justice? No. That's almost impossible, and frankly he isn't good enough to achieve something of such magnitude.
Not possible by anyone though. The thing that made the originals amazing was the "holy fucking shit" factor. Technicolor and Kodak film helped deliver that, but adding some grit to the process isn't going to change the fact that these won't be nearly as magical... even to kids that are the now that we were when the originals came out. I think you guys know how big I am on grit, but I'm not going to let it bother me.
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When Star Wars came out, there was nothing like it.

Nowadays it isn't the quality of the sequels that is suspect, its the millions of other shit that looks just like it.

You guys are criticizing it unfairly and picking things that shouldn't be picked at.

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I am of the opinion that the screenwriter is more important to the success of a film than the director (see: Shutter Island). The Abrams Treks sucked, but lens flares aside the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of Orci and Kurtzman's shitty scripts. SW 7 tapped Lawrence Kasdan for its screenwriter, the guy who wrote Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Also, I was worried they were just going to do the original trilogy all over again, but the fact that the main character is a storm trooper is something new.

I did say cautiously optimistic.
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neorichieb1971 wrote:When Star Wars came out, there was nothing like it.

Nowadays it isn't the quality of the sequels that is suspect, its the millions of other shit that looks just like it.

You guys are criticizing it unfairly and picking things that shouldn't be picked at.

With Star wars you lost your virginity.. You ain't getting it back no matter how many sequels they make or how they make them.. end of.
The same can be said about video games (in general).
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The best part about episode VII is there's a good chance my date will likely have the same fond memories of seeing Episode I with her parents as I had seeing Episode IV with mine.
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GaijinPunch wrote:The thing that made the originals amazing was the "holy fucking shit" factor.
"holy fucking shit" is exactly what I thought when it was revealed BB8 was an actual puppet and not CGI.
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I thought it was a good trailer. It couldn't have the impact that the last one had with Han and Chewie because we've already seen them. I'm glad they've left Luke out of this for now, and I liked how it gave you a hint of where the characters are coming from but not the story they're going to tell. Treating he original films as stories the new characters have heard about is clever. I also think there's a whole side to this film we've heard nothing about, a storyline that will knock us sideways.

The trailer didn't seem very "epic" or have any sense of scale. There's a forest behind Pinewood Studios and a lot if it looked like they just nipped out the back and shot it there. The battles with the X-wings and Ties looked too much like Battlefront - I hope there's at least one space battle. My big worry is that it will be sentimental, and like any one of those awful Marvel movies that get plopped out every few months.

Either way I'm super hyped for this - got tickets for the first midnight showing, Odeon Leicester Square.
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GaijinPunch wrote:The best part about episode VII is there's a good chance my date will likely have the same fond memories of seeing Episode I with her parents as I had seeing Episode IV with mine.
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Skykid wrote: Sending you a man salute right now.
I'd expect no less, brother. ;)

Oh, and this:
http://www.slashfilm.com/jar-jar-binks- ... s-trailer/
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All three trailers sewn together. Pretty impressive.

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I like star wars but I feel absolutely no hype for this at all. I keep thinking they should be going in a new direction instead of relying so much on stuff from the previous movies. I mean its like 30 years later and it's still rebels vs storm troopers? I guess I won't be disappointed this way if it ends up sucking and happy If I'm wrong.
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I feel like Shmups Forum is the only place where people could be pessimistic about something like this. I guess some things will never change.
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Lord Satori wrote:I feel like Shmups Forum is the only place where people could be pessimistic about something like this. I guess some things will never change.
Absolute rubbish. After the prequels just about every Star Wars fan has a right to a certain level of pessimism, regardless of how promising things may be. No-one is going in there with absolute optimism anymore - Lucas put paid to those days.

But since you like the prequels that may be difficult to understand.
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I feel like Shmups Forum is the only place where people could be pessimistic about something like this. I guess some things will never change.
On this instance I can see someone being pessimistic. But as a whole, an umbrella has become required before heading into this place now.... it always has a rain cloud these days. Even when I am excited on anything or enjoying a game or something I don't bother posting about it... all it's going to do is start a train reaction of complaining and groaning.

The Megadrive thread and the Ninja Gaiden plus action game whatever you call it thread are exceptions to me.
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Who could say anything negative in the MegaDrive thread anyway ? :wink:
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Go to a PC Engine forum and even suggest a MD game might be better than the PC Engine version, or generally liking of the MD.
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I have been around long enough to remember the hype for The Phantom Menace, then going and seeing it in the cinema and being disappointed.

I refuse to get even vaguely hyped about this until it is released and reviews come out saying it is amazing. My main concern is that it will spend too much time just referencing the original trilogy with "nudge nudge, wink wink" moments. I already think that Han Solo and Chewbacca being in this film is ridiculous, and I'd wager any amount of money that they will find a way to shoehorn Luke Skywalker in there as well.
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Illyrian wrote:and I'd wager any amount of money that they will find a way to shoehorn Luke Skywalker in there as well.
You live dangerously... considering he's definitely in the film.
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Illyrian wrote:I have been around long enough to remember the hype for The Phantom Menace, then going and seeing it in the cinema and being disappointed.

I refuse to get even vaguely hyped about this until it is released and reviews come out saying it is amazing. My main concern is that it will spend too much time just referencing the original trilogy with "nudge nudge, wink wink" moments. I already think that Han Solo and Chewbacca being in this film is ridiculous, and I'd wager any amount of money that they will find a way to shoehorn Luke Skywalker in there as well.
And there was the one and only Star Wars film re-released in 3D with SW Episode 1:TPM back on February 10, 2012 -- Lucasfilm promised that all six SW movies would get the 3D treatment but that was not meant to be. At the very least, Episode VII will be in 3D to make up for that pressing issue alone.

I did certainly get a pair of advance tickets to go see the 3D DFX with Dolby Atmos surround sound upgrade (comparable to watching it on a Imax sized screen settting) showing of SW:TFA on opening day -- should be worth it in the end...we'll see how it pans out with a whopping 136 minutes long in duration.

Even after looking at all the new SW Episode VII toys and related swag that went on sale back on September 4th, 2015, it seems to have lacked the special feeling/charm of trying to get all of the 1st edition SW Episode 1 action figures marked with the "0000" UPC code designation on the back of those Kenner produced toys back in the day (March of 1999). Must've been the treasure hunt aspect/mentality of hunting down the 1st edition SW Episode 1 action figures worth it in the end...you never knew what would appear on the retailers' shelving on any given day.

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I do not understand this UPC talk but I will pretend otherwise.
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