Raiden V for Xbox One in 2015

[evil_ash_xero]

You know...this game might actually show up way later, on PS4. But right now, it's dead.

[Alfred]

I still believe in Moss its coming, X1 needs its first Japanese Shooting Game!

[evil_ash_xero]

It's like The Last Guardian of shmups.

[mastermx]

At this point, jumping ship to the ps4 is very logical for Moss to do. This is of course if they weren't being funded by MS themselves. Though I really do wonder if MS is still funding this project.

[Strider77]

They need to be funding the One's funeral service.

[Strikers1945guy]

How long does it take a tram like Moss to develop a raiden game? It's not like it's got crazy bullet patterns or a super complex scoring system to integrate.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

How long does it take a tram like Moss to develop a raiden game? It's not like it's got crazy bullet patterns or a super complex scoring system to integrate.

Unless of course there will be a radical change in gameplay or the graphics will be getting a massive next gen overhaul

[Strikers1945guy]

How long does it take a tram like Moss to develop a raiden game? It's not like it's got crazy bullet patterns or a super complex scoring system to integrate.

Unless of course there will be a radical change in gameplay or the graphics will be getting a massive next gen overhaul

I suppose but it's Raiden the graphics don't need a huge overhaul and that's all money and time wasted on a game that more than likely will sell pretty poorly, so I doubt that's the reason.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

How long does it take a tram like Moss to develop a raiden game? It's not like it's got crazy bullet patterns or a super complex scoring system to integrate.

Unless of course there will be a radical change in gameplay or the graphics will be getting a massive next gen overhaul

I suppose but it's Raiden the graphics don't need a huge overhaul and that's all money and time wasted on a game that more than likely will sell pretty poorly, so I doubt that's the reason.

I do recall several of the articles from last year that mentioned Raiden V hinting at a change from traditions. Also, regarding the graphics, it would only make sense to keep pushing the limits forward. From Raiden III to IV there was a noticeable graphical improvement, and I can only imagine what the Xbox One hardware will be capable of making a Raiden game look like. But for now, communication has gone dead. I have messaged MOSS on Twitter and on their Facebook page, but no replies. Believe me, if I was a millionaire I would've already bought the rights to Raiden from MOSS (considering that something something terrible has happened to them financially) and gotten this game back on track with the help of developers who would know what to do with the game, not ruin it. If I had that kind of money I would invest whatever is necessary to see that game become a reality. Sadly, we are all powerless here and we can do nothing but wait.

[Astro City II]

It's weird seeing people post they are desperate for this to be a PS4 project. It was only last gen that Sony wouldn't allow and traditional 2D style games or shmups on the PS3 for the first five years of the system and now they are suddenly the saviours of the genre and indies. Bit fickle.

If it wasn't for what happened with XBLA last gen the genre probably would be dead on consoles if it was up to Sony.

[ATTRACTS]

It's weird seeing people post they are desperate for this to be a PS4 project. It was only last gen that Sony wouldn't allow and traditional 2D style games or shmups on the PS3 for the first five years of the system and now they are suddenly the saviours of the genre and indies. Bit fickle.

If it wasn't for what happened with XBLA last gen the genre probably would be dead on consoles if it was up to Sony.

People are desperate for shmups to come to any console at this point. I doubt it has anything to do with preferring Sony over MSoft. More like "if it's not going to make it to Xbox One, then put it out somewhere"...and PS4 is the logical choice aside to PC.

[jugu]

So is the consensus is that this game is dead? If not, when is the next game show where Raiden might come up?

[mastermx]

Never say never. But it is looking like if it was ever to happen, then it is most likely going to be delayed for a long time.

[Battlesmurf]

I wonder if there's any way they can get Raiden Fighters and OG raiden on steam. Bit of a thread derail, but if Moss needs money they have some back catalogue they can use. I'm sure there are smaller companies willing to do the work for that stuff.

[ACSeraph]

It's weird seeing people post they are desperate for this to be a PS4 project. It was only last gen that Sony wouldn't allow and traditional 2D style games or shmups on the PS3 for the first five years of the system and now they are suddenly the saviours of the genre and indies. Bit fickle.

If it wasn't for what happened with XBLA last gen the genre probably would be dead on consoles if it was up to Sony.

Everyone simply realizes that the game is almost certainly dead on the Xbone, and PS4 or PC will be our only real hope of a release. The Xbox is a total and complete failure here in Japan. There are almost no games on the system, and no floor space dedicated to it. You can't even really find used systems, because no one bought them in the first place. I'll take a depressing picture of the Xbox One section of the gamestore next time I out.

Considering this is a Japanese game that primarily targets a specific niche of Japanese gamers it makes no sense to release it on a system that failed so hard it's already essentially a rare console here. Shmup players supporting the 360 does not mean they all went out and bought Xbones, or would even prefer it to the PS4. They were simply going where the games were. I have friends here who are hardcore fans of Western games and even they won't touch the thing with a pole, because everyone can see the flies buzzing around its rotting corpse. No one wants to throw down $250 on a system that has no future and basically no exclusives.

It's not a question of loyalty, it's about practicality. Sony may have been asshats in the past, but it doesn't change the fact that they are still the best bet for any sort of console shmup success in 2015.

WiiU shmups anyone?

[JBC]

I guess I'm gonna give up hope. At least the series retains it's symmetry this way.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

I guess I'm gonna give up hope. At least the series retains it's symmetry this way.

Actually no it doesn't, Raiden V would be the sixth game, since DX is the third game. If we don't hear anything before the end of the year, then things could have certainly taken a turn for the worst.

[Despatche]

sorry, even raiden iv has more differences from iii than raiden dx does from ii

it's even called "raiden ii dx" right on the pcb

(the real raiden iii is viper phase 1)

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

It's time... https://twitter.com/moss_raiden/status/ ... 2476392448
Info coming next month, according to MOSS, and their reply to a user asking about Raiden V. They say that they are working hard on the game, which is excellent news!

[HydrogLox]

After a month of silence that feed became active to announce that Raiden IV Overkill is now available on PlayStation Now "for Rent" (350¥(4h), 700¥(7d), 1000¥(30d), 2100¥(90d)).
The final tweet could simply be interpreted as a polite "please stop asking us here about Raiden V".

[EmperorIng]

I only check out this thread for Furry's panicked rationalizing.

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

I only check out this thread for Furry's panicked rationalizing.

After a month of silence that feed became active to announce that Raiden IV Overkill is now available on PlayStation Now "for Rent" (350¥(4h), 700¥(7d), 1000¥(30d), 2100¥(90d)).
The final tweet could simply be interpreted as a polite "please stop asking us here about Raiden V".

Did either of you miss the part where MOSS mentioned new information coming next month?

[gameoverDude]

After a month of silence that feed became active to announce that Raiden IV Overkill is now available on PlayStation Now "for Rent" (350¥(4h), 700¥(7d), 1000¥(30d), 2100¥(90d)).
The final tweet could simply be interpreted as a polite "please stop asking us here about Raiden V".

DAMN at these rent prices. Why not just port the PC version of RIV-OK to PS4? I'd rather pay $15-20 for all you can play with no PSNow latency, rather than "rent".

[cave hermit]

DAMN at these rent prices. Why not just port the PC version of RIV-OK to PS4? I'd rather pay $15-20 for all you can play with no PSNow latency, rather than "rent".

Because porting would take effort, and in theory this obnoxious rental program makes Sony more money than selling a "permanent" one time license.

[OdiousTrident]

This is sounding positive so far. Not sure what other people are reading between the lines. If any company states they're working hard on a game then I think they're working on it.

....Unless that is not exactly what they said and something has been lost in translation?

[HydrogLox]

13 months and basically no new Raiden V information

• 2014 Sep 17 - this topic starts
• 2014 Sep 18 - Raiden V teaser trailer surfaces https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3s-yA2ldR0
• 2014 Sep 28 - Siliconera shows three conceptual art shots included in the teaser trailer http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/28/glimpse-raiden-v/
• 2015 Apr 27 - Magazine shows some more concept art http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p1102357
• 2015 May 24 - Anticipated new information doesn't surface http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p1108397

Meanwhile most observable MOSS activities seem to be related to scratching together some cash.

• 2014 Sep 23 - Spotted: H2 Interactive to release Raiden III on Steam http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p1056309
• 2014 Sep 25 - H2 Interactive releases Raiden III Digital Edition on Steam and GOG http://store.steampowered.com/app/315670/ http://www.gog.com/game/raiden_3_digital_edition Original Jpn PC release: 2006-03-17
• 2015 May 17 - Spotted: PEGI rating for Xbox 360 Caladrius http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p1106842.
• 2015 Jun 29 - Spotted: H2 interactive to release Raiden IV Overkill on Steam http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p1116265 Original PS3(PSN) release: 2014-04-29 (2014-05-28)
• 2015 Jul 28 - Spotted: H2 Interactive announcement of PS4(PSN) Caladrius Blaze release for South Korea in December 2015 and a PC release in 2016. http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p1121453 Original PS3 release: 2014-08-28
• 2015 Sep 03 - H2 Interactive releases Raiden IV Overkill on Steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/323460/
• 2015 Sep 04 - Xbox 360 Caladrius releases on Western GoD marketplaces http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Produ ... 02533007d0. Original release: 2013-04-24 (2013-09-24 Jpn GoD)
• 2015 Sep 18 - Xbox 360 Caladrius DLC characters release on Western GoD marketplaces.
• 2015 Oct 20 - Raiden IV Overkill now on PSN Now for "rent".

Given this history - if there is any actual news in a month - I almost expect it to be along the lines of: "H2 Interactive to release Raiden V for PS4 and PC in 2016 ..." (possibly leaving actual implementation to H2 Interactive who may or may not contract it out - MOSS possibly just providing the conceptual design).

Why not just port the PC version of RIV-OK to PS4?

• MOSS doesn't own the PC version - H2 Interactive does.
• MOSS owns the PS3 version but they didn't implement it - Shanghai Riceman Technology Co. Ltd did that.

The last products that MOSS themselves seem to have actually developed are Caladrius (Xbox 360) and Caladrius AC (Sega RingEdge 2/ALL.Net P-ras).

[Strikers1945guy]

I just want this to come out now so Furry can die happy.

[Strider77]

Does Furry have an Xbone?

[Furry Fox Jet Pilot]

Does Furry have an Xbone?

Actually, I do not. I only have a PS3 and 360. But I would be willing to buy the game and go to a friend's house to play it.

[Strider77]

You dodged that bullet... I don't think you'll be having to go to any friends house. That owns a xbone anyway.