Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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Can someone who has experienced both units please chime in. Is the audio quality of a PVM monitor at least equal to that of a Commodore 1702?
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Re: Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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PVMs don't have speakers; you don't buy monitors for their audio. Get separate speakers and don't look back.
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Re: Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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I've already decided to get a PVM or BVM. It seems quite a few PVM models do have a single speaker (whereas BVMs do not). If the quality is as good as a Commodore 1702 I'd rather get a PVM so I won't need to get additional speakers.
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Yeah, don't use the internal speaker. It's average at best.
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Re: Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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Ed Oscuro wrote:speakers
Carthik wrote:speakers.
Being a bit pedantic here, but I (for my own sanity) decided to ignore the possibility you'd really want mono speakers only. Apparently that's what the Commie has. I would be surprised if Sony does worse.

Any PVM with a built-in speaker should beat it, but I'll laugh if you go out of your way to get a 20L1 for its mono speaker and pass up a better model with real RGB inputs.

Yeah, there are some PVMs with built-in "audio monitoring" facility. I think about the best you could do for monitor quality while still getting a mono speaker is likely to be the PVM-20M4U with 800TVL spec, but good luck finding one. It's got an incredible 0.8 watt, -5dBs rated speaker. The PVM-20L2 is probably the next best with 600TVL; the PVM-1954q, 1953md etc. also should all have a single speaker at the bottom left, and have essentially the same features, and better availability due to being medical monitors.

Honestly, I'd avoid looking up anything in particular, and just canvass the area for the closest options first.
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Just as an anecdote, when I bought my first PVM and was stuck with the mono input speaker (most consumer TVs with mono speakers at least have stereo input) for a short while I discovered that the mono mode on some PS1 games doesn't even work correctly. Some sounds that were there in stereo were missing, so they probably just took one of the channels and labeled it as mono instead of properly mixing them together.
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I've got a speaker on my PVM 2053MD. It's surprisingly good (for a mono TV speaker) - far better than the speaker I had on my CRT TV as a kid, but I obviously don't use it.
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Re: Commodore 1702 vs Sony PVM Sound Quality

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i have that commodore monitor & a PVM 20L2 , sound its not that good on both , its ok for casual playing but you will get better sound on some second hand 2.0 computer speakers connected directly to your console.
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