Who will save the Terminator franchise?

[Ed Oscuro]

It does work both ways though. I guess I'll give richie one on the realism thing - I understand what he means there. Glitter and shine of recent films gets in the way of the story. I don't think that the Terminator just boils down to "terminates things," as a concept - there is the other stuff, the anti-human side ("fuck you, asshole") as well as other ways of giving them a personality. I think the liquid metal Terminator had a pretty convincing personality, and felt sort of similar to the original Terminator, but with some important differences beyond the CG.

Terminator films without time travel...well, I'd like to see as little of big time travel machines, effects, and PLOT TWEESTS as possible, but time travel literally starts the franchise. I don't think you can do away with it completely.

Overall, it probably boils down to: personality, getting back to basics, simplicity. It's very easy for reworkings of old franchises to make things too convoluted.

[kaicooper]

Terminator Gen was one of the worst but better then salvation ofcourse
and its average dumb PG-13 movie

Arnold was the best part yes but the rest r SHIT

not even 1 single memorable scene ..

watch T1 and T2
every single Scene is Masterpiece Classic

Cameron will get the rights in 2019

so please do 1 final Terminator

[CMoon]

I've said this in another thread, but it is worth bringing up again here. T1 works because it of Arnold's presence as a perfect killing machine without personality. He moves without hesitation or fear, like a faster, more efficient Michael Myers. Despite the deep reverence a lot of people have for the late 70's/early 80's films, most of them are extremely simple in their execution--think of Jaws, Alien, Halloween and The Terminator. Great movies that work because of the presence (or eluded presence) of an unstoppable, horrifying force. This simple idea keeps those movies from being shit, and when you complicate/contaminate it with a bunch of other nonsense, it falls apart. Terminator isn't a complex scaffolding on which you can hang endless alternate plot devices--it is dirt simple: scary machine tries to kill people. Fucking run away!!!

The only reasonable thing to be done with the Terminator is a reboot that returned to that central idea, IE:

I don't want to see a Terminator do anything but terminate.

[neorichieb1971]

Genisys is one of those movies where the director explains what he wants from the scene and you cannot believe not one of the actors/actresses put their hand up and said "wait, WHAT?"