Puzzle & Dragons

[cave hermit]

Regarding that plan for friday mythical Guigui, my Lilith is in its D/D form, not the attacker D/L form since that requires Angelits (and the angelits are why I'm desperate to clear this dungeon). Does that screw up the plan, or could it still work? (Also I'm assuming you were referring to Urd when you mentioned Skuld?)

Also I just plopped +72 on my Lu Bu, and I'm one skill up away from max skilling my Vampire.

It seems like the mechdragon dungeon is much easier now that I actually have my Hardar since the extra health boost prevents instant death if the Chimera decides to double strike, and I would think I have a bit more power behind my punches with him on my team, not to mention the dark enhance active that I can pop in conjunction with Unparalleled Destructive Strike and whatever orb change I have available (either dark attack stance, preceded by dark defense stance and dark spell if possible for maximum dark orb coverage, or Ronia's simple dark/red orb storm).

Is mechdragon profitable to farm? I recall someone saying that mechdragon's fortress has a very high base plus egg rate, and since Hardar is a guaranteed drop, I could eventually max skill my own hardar by farming it.

[Jon]

Hell yes it's worth it to grind Mechdragons. The 5x +egg is in effect as well as the 2x skill up. The dungeon gives a shit ton of experience so you'll rank up frequently too. When you finally skill up Hadar there's always Canopus to shoot for as well.

[guigui]

Ouch, Lilith not being an attacker will ruin Friday Mythical. You'll definitely miss firepower, sorry for not seeing that.

Now, I'd say the closest you are from clearing this is with devil team :
Lu Bu / Ama / Hadar / Vampire / Lilith / Sonia

F1 : Hope you can survive long enough to almost activate all skills and stock dark orbs for a mass in floor 2.
F2 : Two dark mass + 3 red attacks. Vampire for the second one if needed.
F3 : Lilith
F4 : Sonia Hadar Lu Bu at least kills the angelit; you get one more turn to kill the other.

It is very unsure if you go pass F1 though, afterwards this is kind of easy.

And, as Jon said, yes. It is definitely worth farming Mechdragon to max skill Hadar, get + eggs during 5x event, get good fodder, and good XP.

[Necronopticous]

I finally max-skilled my Dancing Queen Hera-Ur earlier tonight. I'm sick to death of the PAD Academy dungeon.

[cave hermit]

I tried another roll on the academy rem and got a junk chibi (Amaterasu). It's probably for the best that I stop trying to push my luck and just walk away with this 50% return rate. Maybe I'll roll one more time just before the academy event ends, but otherwise I'm done with it.

[cave hermit]

So, I have a plan for a balanced Fire/Green team:

Chibi chiyomi (possible leader?)

Burning Phoenix Knight, Homura (will have to farm the flame mechdragon dungeon for it) or balanced ult-evo Leilan (probably not going with her since i want to eventually use her on my attacker team)

Wind Twin star Fafnir

Noble wolf king hero, Cu Chulainn

Perseus (no ult evolve since I need green mythical masks for that, although it's not that big of a deal: ult evolve just gives about 100 extra attack, a skill boost awakening, a second skill bind resist awakening, and a orb timer extend awakening).

Ideally I would put in balanced Leilan instead of Fafnir or Cu Chulainn, to balance out the fire part of the team a bit more, but again I'm probably going to sub her as an attacker eventually so...

Could this lineup work as a possible mythical capable team?

edit: maybe I should get a king woodsie and put it in instead of Fafnir or Cu Chulainn?

[cave hermit]

Well I caved in again and rolled for a 5th time on the academy machine: got chibi isis.

So I know I said this before, but now I'm done with the academy machine, and I'm going to cut my losses and walk away with chiyomi and Perseus.

[Necronopticous]

5x tech Mondays are a delicate balancing act between plus egg farming @ FT4 and actually getting shit done at work.

[cave hermit]

Tamadra retreat is really profitable: I got like 5 baby tamadras and 2 adult ones out of 2 runs.

Also I am having trouble resisting the urge to try and pull the academy machine once more. I know the odds of getting a gold are terrible, and I know there's a godfest soon, but...

So hard to resist...

[guigui]

Jesus, hermit, do not pull that machine once again. Stop with a victory, this is the winner attitude.
Plus the incoming godfest looks pretty good : Greco-Roman + Chinese have some good leaders, I might pull once or twice.

Also, about that R/G team you mentionned earlier, it might be nice but I dont see it being stronger than your current Devil team, which is pretty good actually.
Enjoy the hypermaxed-Necro-Sonia and go :
Lu Bu / Vampire / Jester Dragon / Hadar / Dill Sirius / Sonia
Take Sirius or Jester out and put King Baddie in for dungeons that require very high damage, about 2~3 millions.


I think with this team you can clear up to normal Starlight Sanctuary (which has some of the best XP/stam ratio, up to 800+), and the quite fun conditionnal technical that appear soon after Mechdragon Fortress.
You can even clear some descend with it, maybe not mythical right away, but at least some legends. They have 40% drop rate for their boss, which is still quite large.

And also, dont pull the PAD Academy machine.

[Aisha]

Evolving Baby TAMADRA is a nightmare: so much so that I thought it would be a good idea to feed all the Baby TAMADRA from today's Retreat straight. Nope; I went 1/7.

I'm going to run TAMADRA Village a few times later and dive back into the madness of evolving them again, I guess...

[guigui]

Agree on the evolving nightmare of babies TAMADRA. The 4 runs from this night (2.30am...) gave me 3 chibi, 1 TAMA, 12 babies, which makes my total babies count to 23.
Thursday expert here I come !

Also, Izanami descends today and I'm going to follow Aisha's advice and get her. I'm not sure I can handle mythical, but she will drop legend, wont she ?

By the way, I went for Sleeping Beauty in my devil team and you were right Aisha, this is enough to farm King of the Gods and is a nice addition to my team, thanks. Stats are not that good though and I hesitate to awaken her, any chance she'll get an ultimate any day ?

[Aisha]

Yeah, dark Izanami will drop on Legend, but not every time; about 40% I think.

As for Sleeping Beauty getting an ultimate, I think the Fairy Tale series is too irrelevant to plan around the possibility of getting ultimates. GungHo does go back and update old cards from time to time, but if they do get ultimates, and by the time they arrive in NA/EU, you will have probably pulled better REM cards. That being said, Sleeping Beauty has good awakenings, so if you're going to use her for the foreseeable future then I think awakening her is a good idea. Like in Izanami, you'll face skill locks and God-type binds; you'll be a happy guy if you resist them because of Sleeping Beauty. You can always get more TAMADRA.

We're getting 3 adult TAMADRA in the mail pretty soon too.

[guigui]

Doh, just cleared legend and no Izanami drop. Will try again when natural stamina is rejuvenated.

About awakening Beauty, my heart balances between her and Twilight Sorcerer Chester. This guy has 3 skill lock resists, TPA and a time extend, plus he is red and devil, which makes him fit in both of my main team.
But I cleared Izanami legend by just stalling after the 10 turns skill lock, so I guess I still have some time to decide.
Question for now is : do I roll today's godfest ? Tomorrow is definitely no, but today looks pretty good, leaders and subs wise.


EDIT : I rolled, using the algorithm "as long as roll is good, you roll again", results :

- Green Odin
- Minerva
- Ceres
- Shardra, this is when I stopped !

[cave hermit]

I had enough for one roll ( really should've stopped rolling the academy machine after Perseus :/ ), and I just got some junk light dragon (Mistrain). Is it just me or do all the Z collab monsters suck?

Oh well, there's always next time. Can't really do much with Greco Romans until I'm capable of running mythical descends anyway.

Would be nice to roll a red Sonia or an Odin though.

On an unrelated note it seems that my posts in this thread account for over 13% of my posts on the forum!

[guigui]

Izanami gotten, now working on DQ team as pointed to by Aisha :

DQ / Awoken Venus / Light Valk / Sun Quan / Izanami / DQ

Only Venus has full awakenings, guess I'll have to evolve those 23 babies...

Also, I got weak and scared I might piss you veterans here off, so I posted on PADForums about how to clear Dragon Challenge, this is the end of the life of me :

I'd like to get the green jewel from Dragon Challenge level 3, I usually run an attacker or a devil team :
Cao Cao / Rodin / Rodin / Laila / Freyr / Urd
Lu Bu / Lu Bu / Hadar / Vampire / Sleeping Beauty / Sonia.

I dont think any of this team will clear the dungeon, not enough constant firepower to deal with the 100k defense metal dragons.
Solutions ? I have defense breaker barons, all max skilled, or a Shiva Friend, or Lilith for even more poison, or other nice cards (Awoken Venus, DQ, Valk, Verdandis, etc...)

Will all those options, I'm a bit at a lost, and finally dont know what to do, any suggestion will be appreciated.

[BryanM]

Fans of Puzzle and Dragon ripoffs might enjoy this trailer.

[Aisha]

I pulled a few times from the second day of the Godfest. I'm pretty happy with the results, although I got nothing that I can immediately play with.

- Black Beast Demon, Zuoh: Recently added to NA. His artwork is just awesome, but I don't know what to do with him.
- Apollo: I've been wanting him for my Athena team, but now that Athena is out of style, I'm not as excited. He needs to be max-skilled to be useful, and his artwork is pretty bad.
- Dryad: Too cute to get upset.
- Set: This pull is pretty disappointing because he's not very good and I already had one.
- Kagutsuchi: Very pleased. One of the best cards in the game at dealing damage, right up there with Vishnu and Liu Bei; and a very important component of many fire teams. I'm now considering making an Awoken Shiva team in the future.

[Necronopticous]

Kagutsuchi

Congrats! This was the first and only card that I hypermaxed on pure impulse. The moment his awoken form was announced I completely dropped whoever I was plussing at the time and went +297 on him. He was the first ever card to have three TPA awakenings, in addition to being just an all-around badass (fun fact: I have the first and top-rated comment on his pdx entry, gushing about the triple TPA madness). I think he still consistently appears as an S rank sub on all of the Japanese tier lists, and he's a complete fucking monster at farming low level content. Long live Kagu!

Apollo: I've been wanting him for my Athena team, but now that Athena is out of style, I'm not as excited. He needs to be max-skilled to be useful, and his artwork is pretty bad.

Don't lament just yet. An uvo alternate was just teased for Persephone, so there's a good chance Apollo will soon get the same treatment. Apollo could very well end up being a highly desirable card again.

[Aisha]

Yep -- Kagutsuchi is still at the top of the Japanese rankings for subs, along with Liu Bei and a few others. I suspect that ultimate Vishnu will join them since he's the strongest triple-TPA card in the game at the moment.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what they'll do for the Greco God series. Kagutsuchi piqued my interest in making an Awoken Shiva team in the future, so I'm especially interested in Ares; I think he's a TPA or two away from being a prime sub. Although thinking about making an Awoken Shiva team right now makes my stomach churn as I'm already pretty overwhelmed simultaneously working on Verdandi and light Kali teams, and Awoken Bastet is on the horizon.

[guigui]

Hunting for Green Jewel here, I am trying to make a plan to clear Dragon Challenge lv3, main problem is those 100k defense metal dragons.
I have some options :
- Athena and her double TPA may deal enough damage. But I need some high multi, like DQXQ, and I fear I cant trigger both mutli and TPA consistently
- Blue Odin, same.
- Go attackers with full poison with, 2 Rodins, 1 Lilith. Then I fear my poison wont activate soon enough (Odins are not skilled) and I'll die stalling.
- Go Verdandi TPA team. Mulit is ok but, from my computations, I cant reach 100k damage unless I combo 6 or 7, which is quite hard.

Any advice appreciated, box here
https://www.padherder.com/user/guigui-l ... ;default,0

[Jon]

Have you run the most recent Gift from the Holy Beasts dungeon yet? If you haven't and don't mind the stamina waste you could always take the cowards way out (i.e. my way ) and enter/exit the dungeon until you face off against Meimei.

[guigui]

Have you run the most recent Gift from the Holy Beasts dungeon yet? If you haven't and don't mind the stamina waste you could always take the cowards way out (i.e. my way ) and enter/exit the dungeon until you face off against Meimei.

Done, this is what allowed me to uevo Athena btw. Now I was hoping she would give me the other jewels, but I have some troubles in Dragon Challenge lv3...

[Vexorg]

My problem right now is that my main account needs a ton of red fruits (need to UEvo Liu Bei and Ronia) but don't have a team on there that can handle Thursday Mythical. My other account can farm Thursday Mythical all day, but has nothing that needs anything out of there since both my Ronia and Bonia are max skilled.

[Aisha]

Have you run the most recent Gift from the Holy Beasts dungeon yet? If you haven't and don't mind the stamina waste you could always take the cowards way out (i.e. my way ) and enter/exit the dungeon until you face off against Meimei.

Done, this is what allowed me to uevo Athena btw. Now I was hoping she would give me the other jewels, but I have some troubles in Dragon Challenge lv3...

When I cleared Legendary Mountain Path, I used a Lu Bu x Red Sonia team. I just stalled whenever I could against the Pengdra and flower dragons. When I came up against metal dragons, I just used actives to make a pile of rows, although you will want to save your big skills for the boss. It's possible that you won't encounter many metal dragons at all, if any. You might want to consider bringing a poison active along for the penultimate floor, because that floor can mess you up quickly if you don't get the orbs you need. Use Sleeping Beauty to clear the binds and then poison.

Athena can cut through 100k defense effortlessly, but then you run into the problem of Threedia. It's pretty mean and has 5M HP.

[cave hermit]

I managed to successfully run my first standard descend (although I had to use a stone): Holy Goddess descended Legend!

Once I made it to the actual boss floor, I got one shotted after chipping off a quarter or so of the valkrie's health.
However I decided to gamble a magic stone on the chance that I would be able to one shot the rest of the valk's health off using 4 or so dark orbs, a couple hearts, my vampire's heart breaker, and Unparalleled destructive strike.

This actually worked (probably because since I was exploiting the Valk's elemental weakness), plus I got the actual drop!

Once I start building my healer team this should be a great asset!

[guigui]

Good job Hermit ! Valk was also the first descend I ever cleared. That use of a stone, as Necro said earlier, was a good use, compared to 5 stones/grimrock...
You'll also see that evolving Valk all the way up is a loooong way to go.

When I cleared Legendary Mountain Path, I used a Lu Bu x Red Sonia team. I just stalled whenever I could against the Pengdra and flower dragons. When I came up against metal dragons, I just used actives to make a pile of rows, although you will want to save your big skills for the boss. It's possible that you won't encounter many metal dragons at all, if any. You might want to consider bringing a poison active along for the penultimate floor, because that floor can mess you up quickly if you don't get the orbs you need. Use Sleeping Beauty to clear the binds and then poison.

Well, what about Lu Bu / DL Lilith / Vampire / Sleeping Beauty / Hadar / Sonia ?
I can take Hadar out for a second Lu Bu but unsure this is needed, it will just reduce my RCV.

Still unsure how I can kill metal dragon without spending too much of my actives though. Now I wish I had evolved my Zeus to the double TPA devil earlier, it would fit instead of Hadar...

On PADForums, I was rather directed to DQ / Athena / Blue Odin / Echidna / Sun Quan / DQ(XQ). But with this I fear my orb matching skills aren't good enough to TPA + 3 other colors consistently.

[Aisha]

I think both teams will work. This team also has 5 dark rows and a similar make-up and it pulls through.

As for DQ in general, take her into Endless Corridors and just practice. You might want to add more Time Extend awakenings to the team (Yomi, Lilith, etc) until you become more confident. Try to line your TPA matches along the edges so they stay out of the way; but remember, 16x on its own is a lot, so you don't have to trigger TPAs every turn.

[guigui]

Thanks for the video. As I see it, this guy only got one metal dragon, and his team is way more leveled than mine. But this still seems doable, and I am willing to spend a stone on it.
I'll give it a try once Zhang Fei is done.

[Kaiser]

So I got myself an android phone lately (Huawei Ascend G535), so the first game I tried to get was Puzzle & Dragons but then, despite being european, the game is not available in my country (Poland), is there a way I could work around this? Because it annoys me that I can't play the game (screw you GungHo)