Atomiswave ports on Dreamcast (or other consoles)...

Randorama · Post by **Randorama** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:53 am

dave4shmups wrote:Marginally better?

Those videos don't show the last three stages, where the game crawls, literally.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:01 pm

No, definitely don't get Isuka. And I guess that's it for domestic titles.

PS2 importing only costs $30 plus expensive game costs; worth it IMO. The Rumble Fish gets old quick...waiting for the sequel to be ported, which should provide some more replay.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:45 am

Ganelon wrote:No, definitely don't get Isuka. And I guess that's it for domestic titles.

PS2 importing only costs $30 plus expensive game costs; worth it IMO. The Rumble Fish gets old quick...waiting for the sequel to be ported, which should provide some more replay.

Ok, well thanks for the info everyone!

I don't know about PS2 importing only costing $30, though-I have a slim-line PSTwo, and even a mod has to cost more then that. I still think my best bet would be to wait for a price drop in the J-PSTwo, after the J-PS3 has been released. And, if we do end up getting more shmup ports at the end of the PS2's life-span over here, I may not import at all.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:15 am

dave4shmups wrote:
Ganelon wrote:No, definitely don't get Isuka. And I guess that's it for domestic titles.

PS2 importing only costs $30 plus expensive game costs; worth it IMO. The Rumble Fish gets old quick...waiting for the sequel to be ported, which should provide some more replay.
Ok, well thanks for the info everyone!

I don't know about PS2 importing only costing $30, though-I have a slim-line PSTwo, and even a mod has to cost more then that. I still think my best bet would be to wait for a price drop in the J-PSTwo, after the J-PS3 has been released. And, if we do end up getting more shmup ports at the end of the PS2's life-span over here, I may not import at all.

Swap magic is only like 30 bucks.

Fighter17 · Post by **Fighter17** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:07 am

Acid King wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:
Ganelon wrote:No, definitely don't get Isuka. And I guess that's it for domestic titles.

PS2 importing only costs $30 plus expensive game costs; worth it IMO. The Rumble Fish gets old quick...waiting for the sequel to be ported, which should provide some more replay.
Ok, well thanks for the info everyone!

I don't know about PS2 importing only costing $30, though-I have a slim-line PSTwo, and even a mod has to cost more then that. I still think my best bet would be to wait for a price drop in the J-PSTwo, after the J-PS3 has been released. And, if we do end up getting more shmup ports at the end of the PS2's life-span over here, I may not import at all.
Swap magic is only like 30 bucks.

I use Swap Magic and it gets the job done.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:26 am

HDLoader Pwns it.

*Gets shot by a mod*

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:27 pm

All you need to play imports on slim PS2s are the Swap Magic discs and those can be had for under $25 shipped. They also work on every PS2 shooter and fighter I've played.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:48 pm

Ganelon wrote:All you need to play imports on slim PS2s are the Swap Magic discs and those can be had for under $25 shipped. They also work on every PS2 shooter and fighter I've played.

I've heard of those, but don't you have to put some tabs on the slim PS2's lid, or something like that? I'm just afraid of damaging the thing.

Moogs · Post by **Moogs** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:13 am

Swap Magic wouldn't run Rumble Fish for me.

Not that it matters, since the game isn't all that great, anyway.

But, yeah, that's why I don't like Swap Magic; it's far too inconsistent.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:39 am

dave4shmups wrote:
Ganelon wrote:All you need to play imports on slim PS2s are the Swap Magic discs and those can be had for under $25 shipped. They also work on every PS2 shooter and fighter I've played.
I've heard of those, but don't you have to put some tabs on the slim PS2's lid, or something like that? I'm just afraid of damaging the thing.

You put little tabs on the inside of your ps2. You run no more a risk (in all likelihood, less of a chance) of damaging it than you would have modding your SNES, which you seemed all prepped to do.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:11 am

You don't need to buy a tab. Just find something to block the sensor. Less risk than leaving your memory card in your system all the time.

Moogs wrote:Swap Magic wouldn't run Rumble Fish for me.

What version of Swap Magic are you using? v3.x?

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:06 am

Ganelon wrote:You don't need to buy a tab. Just find something to block the sensor. Less risk than leaving your memory card in your system all the time.

Leaving your memory card in is risky?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:41 am

Sure, power surges could reach and mess with your memory card inside the system. And since any game/accessory can access the memory card, they are able to corrupt all the data on the card (or delete it, as in the case with the Underground demo). That's why Sony always includes a disclaimer on the memory card packaging that states it should always be removed from your system after play (and that you shouldn't repeatedly save into the same place or risk losing data but that's another issue).

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:07 am

Ganelon wrote:You don't need to buy a tab. Just find something to block the sensor. Less risk than leaving your memory card in your system all the time.

Moogs wrote:Swap Magic wouldn't run Rumble Fish for me.
What version of Swap Magic are you using? v3.x?

What do you mean by blocking the sensor; just something to hold the lid open while you put one of the Swap Discs in, take it out, and put in an import game? Or does it work differently then that?

And where is the best online store to get the Swap Magic Discs?

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 5:08 am

Acid King wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:
Ganelon wrote:All you need to play imports on slim PS2s are the Swap Magic discs and those can be had for under $25 shipped. They also work on every PS2 shooter and fighter I've played.
I've heard of those, but don't you have to put some tabs on the slim PS2's lid, or something like that? I'm just afraid of damaging the thing.
You put little tabs on the inside of your ps2. You run no more a risk (in all likelihood, less of a chance) of damaging it than you would have modding your SNES, which you seemed all prepped to do.

Less of a risk?!:

http://www.geocities.com/pstwoslimline/tapetissue.htm

You don't have to take an SNES apart to mod it.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:44 am

dave4shmups wrote:
Acid King wrote:
dave4shmups wrote: I've heard of those, but don't you have to put some tabs on the slim PS2's lid, or something like that? I'm just afraid of damaging the thing.
You put little tabs on the inside of your ps2. You run no more a risk (in all likelihood, less of a chance) of damaging it than you would have modding your SNES, which you seemed all prepped to do.
Less of a risk?!:

http://www.geocities.com/pstwoslimline/tapetissue.htm

You don't have to take an SNES apart to mod it.

You don't have to open up your ps2 like that, you can just buy little tabs along with the swap magic that go in with the lid open and cover the sensors.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:35 pm

The cheapest online source for Swap Magic that I know of is at Consolesource.com. No tabs included, though.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:30 pm

Ganelon wrote:The cheapest online source for Swap Magic that I know of is at Consolesource.com. No tabs included, though.

Thanks, I haven't found any place that includes the tabs.

So, can you leave the tabs in while playing domestic games? And why are there 2 discs??

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:39 pm

Yup, the tabs, whether bought or made, should just be left there and forgotten, just like the PS1 spring and PSone tab.

Swap Magic comes with 2 discs ebcause there's a DVD disc and CD disc, with the DVD version offering a larger TOC (Table of Contents) size for support of larger games. You really don't need to use the CD version at all except that some CD games don't seem to support the DVD disc for some reason, such as Psyvariar Complete.

Moogs · Post by **Moogs** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:29 pm

Ganelon wrote:
Moogs wrote:Swap Magic wouldn't run Rumble Fish for me.
What version of Swap Magic are you using? v3.x?

It was version 3.3. Doesn't matter now, though, cos I've since acquired a modded PS2.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:43 am

Ganelon wrote:Yup, the tabs, whether bought or made, should just be left there and forgotten, just like the PS1 spring and PSone tab.

Swap Magic comes with 2 discs ebcause there's a DVD disc and CD disc, with the DVD version offering a larger TOC (Table of Contents) size for support of larger games. You really don't need to use the CD version at all except that some CD games don't seem to support the DVD disc for some reason, such as Psyvariar Complete.

Thanks for the info Ganelon!