King of Dragons Japanese glitched - Begging for a proper fix

[Green beret]

Hi,
I got a King of Dragons Japanese version desuicided with Japanese roms. I have a lot of crashes and final boss is glitched.
How do I switch the board to US or ETC version? There are roms in the dead battery society forum (for 910910 US version must be changed roms 30,31,37,38), are they enough to swith to US region or shall I change more roms? Or does it require any other mod too?
Thank you

[system11]

Post a photo of the PCB please and I can tell you which need to be replaced.

[Green beret]

Post a photo of the PCB please and I can tell you which need to be replaced.

This is it



This is a Japanese board on battery I have tried to swap roms in their original places but it doesn't work.
https://imageshack.com/i/eyotQzY7j
Thanks for your help

[system11]

Someone has been messing around quite a lot, and the Japanese set layout is different to every other version. Nice, this is going to be a mess.

At this point I think you're looking at making a complete set minus the graphics ones, which can be re-used in different locations. You can use the checksums to work out which should be where - but bear in mind the jumpers will need changing too.

I had wanted to give you a quick and easy answer, but all the sets are a mess. In fact the Dead Battery page references a set that isn't even available in dumps.

It might even be worth putting it all back how it was, it may soon be possible to actually revive dead boards without rom hacking:

http://arcadehacker.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... art-1.html

(for reference, Eduardo can already revive Kabuki games now)

[Green beret]

Someone has been messing around quite a lot, and the Japanese set layout is different to every other version. Nice, this is going to be a mess.

At this point I think you're looking at making a complete set minus the graphics ones, which can be re-used in different locations. You can use the checksums to work out which should be where - but bear in mind the jumpers will need changing too.

I had wanted to give you a quick and easy answer, but all the sets are a mess. In fact the Dead Battery page references a set that isn't even available in dumps.

It might even be worth putting it all back how it was, it may soon be possible to actually revive dead boards without rom hacking:

http://arcadehacker.blogspot.co.uk/2015 ... art-1.html

(for reference, Eduardo can already revive Kabuki games now)

Which Roms are the graphics ones and which are the checksums? Now I am starting to learn about these. I hope I learn fast. If I write new 30,31,37,38 (are these the checksums?) using the U.S. 910910 and leave others as is, will it work? To which positions I shall put the jumpers?
Or you suggest to send it to a pro and fix it for me?
Thanks

[jepjepjep]

graphics are upper left (8x)

sound are lower left (3x)

program are lower right (4x)


The graphics and sound data are the same data between regions and are not affected by suicide decryption. I would try the US decrypted roms in 30,31,37,38 and see if it works

[system11]

graphics are upper left (8x)

sound are lower left (3x)

program are lower right (4x)


The graphics and sound data are the same data between regions and are not affected by suicide decryption. I would try the US decrypted roms in 30,31,37,38 and see if it works

Yeah that's what I thought too until I looked at the ROM sets. There are at least 2 sound code sets, and while the contents of the graphic ROMs stay the same, the numbering and positioning changes, along with the relevant jumper settings.

[jepjepjep]

I didn't realize that one of the sound sets was different. I know that particular B-board supports non-jedec roms on the lower eight positions in the graphics section and jedec/mask roms on the upper eight spots (or vice-versa). Maybe that's part of the reason why stuff was moved around.

[Green beret]

I can have 4 U.S. Roms easily in 2 weeks if I order now. Can you help me if it doesn't work? Can you tell me were to put the jumpers?
The 8 graphics Roms are not original. They are
MALAYSIA
AM27C400
-150DC
0934DPM
1999AMD

[Green beret]

[system11]

I think you should probably send it to a repairer - it will take a bit of testing and if you don't know what I mean by a ROM checksum then please don't take any offense - but this one is probably too much for you. It's not a simple 'change these few' job. I thought it was until I looked at all the sets in MAME, but it's more complicated.

[Green beret]

Thanks for guiding me! I will send it to a specialist then. Will let you know what happened.
Thanks

EDIT: I contacted the guy who sold it to me and he contacted the Japanese expert that did the mod. They turned another KOD into English and in the last boss, Red Dragon, there was no body too. He said all fixed KODs have this bug. If anyone else can confirm it...
About the crashes he told me to switch mobo and if crashes continue, to switch C board and let him know.
I have already started testing and come back here with results

[system11]

Ah, if you just bought this and haven't resoldered anything/etc I think I'd be tempted to just get your money back.

[Green beret]

Ah, if you just bought this and haven't resoldered anything/etc I think I'd be tempted to just get your money back.

Even if it's the A board?

[Green beret]

I found the solution: The long old A boards are not compatible with King of Dragons. It crashes. A newer type short board is required to play.
When a King of Dragons is desuicide there is an issue which is common to all region patches.
Hydra's tail is not visible and Red Dragons body and tail are also not visible.
It is the same kind of layer in both creatures that can't be displayed.
What a pity! Maybe there is no solution to that except to have a King of Dragons on battery.

[Green beret]

Ah, if you just bought this and haven't resoldered anything/etc I think I'd be tempted to just get your money back.

Because of the missing body parts of the 2 most beautiful monsters of the game I will have this board replaced with one still on battery:)
Thanks every one for your advise!

[mirkvid]

Fyi I've read about the missing dragon graphics before when this board is de-suicided. Too bad, as it's one of my favorite beat-em-ups and it's not that common.

[Green beret]

Fyi I've read about the missing dragon graphics before when this board is de-suicided. Too bad, as it's one of my favorite beat-em-ups and it's not that common.

Maybe a fixed KOD with capcom 27c4096 EPROMs plays fine. This and the battery was the only difference with mine.
Or the desuicide patch decryption isn't good enough.

[kebrank]

I can confirm the Hydra and Red Dragon graphic glitches on my desuicided US King of Dragons. I would also like to add that mine was one of the first King of Dragons PCBs desuicided by Tim from The Dead Battery Society. My PCB will hang up when the time counter gets close to zero. This was later on fixed with a newer patch but the graphic glitches are still there.

\o/.k.

[Green beret]

I can confirm the Hydra and Red Dragon graphic glitches on my desuicided US King of Dragons. I would also like to add that mine was one of the first King of Dragons PCBs desuicided by Tim from The Dead Battery Society. My PCB will hang up when the time counter gets close to zero. This was later on fixed with a newer patch but the graphic glitches are still there.

\o/.k.

If there is a solution to this and if there is someone who knows how it can be fixed, he would help a lot of people.

[kebrank]

I just sent a message to Tim asking about these issues. I don't think he knows about them, otherwise they should have been fixed long time ago. I'll let you know if he replies to my message.

\o/.k.

[Green beret]

I just sent a message to Tim asking about these issues. I don't think he knows about them, otherwise they should have been fixed long time ago. I'll let you know if he replies to my message.

\o/.k.

This is a great!

[Layer]

If you need japanese dessuicided roms, send me a PM, I have done them. If the moderator is OK, I can even post them on the topic.

[system11]

I'm fine with that if it's just the images required and not a full set.

[Layer]

I'm fine with that if it's just the images required and not a full set.

Yes, it is Only the roms to replace. As it's not done at Dead Battery Society, I did them. I hope that they would help.
Depending of your B-board, choose the right one.

KoD jap 910805 for B-Board 90629B-3 : http://speedy.sh/cwdmT/The-King-of-Drag ... 629B-3.rar

KoD jap 910805 for B-Board-89625B-1: http://speedy.sh/BjYM5/The-King-of-Drag ... 625B-1.rar

[system11]

You should send those to Tim too.

[Layer]

I've done some other like Wonder 3 jap fixed, 3 Wonders World 910520 and 910513.

It seems that Tim let Dead Battery Society not up-to-date.

[Green beret]

I am not able to test this set anymore as I have sent my board back from where I bought it to replace with one on battery. Can you confirm Hydra 4th boss has a tail on your set?

[Layer]

Yes, I can.

Have you noticed any missing sprites or scroll objects in the preview sets (the US ones available at Dead Battery Society) ?

[Green beret]

Yes, I can.

Have you noticed any missing sprites or scroll objects in the preview sets (the US ones available at Dead Battery Society) ?

My KOD was fixed with a Japanese version from Japan and there are those to report:
When turn on pcb and on the rom check there were some white characters sprites upside down.
After King of Dragons logo and when loading a demo screen for half a second was shown an unknown screen looked like a wall.
Hydra tail missing
Red Dragon body missing
On credits while the red dragon on screen there was a floor that shouldn't.
Other than that it looked perfect.