Puzzle & Dragons

[cave hermit]

So I don't get it, is it that you can only send out one best friend invite, but multiple other people can pick you as a best friend?

Also is the 100 pal point bonus only applied once per day like normal, and does it work both ways (with the bonus being applied when I use a best friend's monster and when a best friend uses mine)?

[guigui]

So I don't get it, is it that you can only send out one best friend invite, but multiple other people can pick you as a best friend?

I think yes. I choose Necro here and now have him as Best Friend. But I guess he was chosen multiple times.
By the way Necro, do you receive a notification when you are chosen ? Is there any way you can know the number of times you were chosen ?

Also is the 100 pal point bonus only applied once per day like normal, and does it work both ways (with the bonus being applied when I use a best friend's monster and when a best friend uses mine)?

When a player uses his best friend leader, both player and friend recieve 100 points.

[Geist]

@Aisha, thanks for the reply.

A Thanatos and a Baal were still hiding inside my box, I haven't done anything with them yet...

Another idea for Friday could be:

Ronia - Echidna, max skill - D/D Lilith, max skill - Ice Samurai Ogre - Ice Samurai Ogre - Lu Bu Uvo
This combination allows for 8 skill boosts, but might lack a bit of punch in the OHKO department...

Worth a try I guess, otherwise I will have just to put on my tryhard pants and Ra/Kali that thing with perfectly set-up boards.

[Aisha]

You can accept as many best friend requests that are sent to you, but you can only send one yourself.

Another idea for Friday could be:

Ronia - Echidna, max skill - D/D Lilith, max skill - Ice Samurai Ogre - Ice Samurai Ogre - Lu Bu Uvo
This combination allows for 8 skill boosts, but might lack a bit of punch in the OHKO department...

Worth a try I guess, otherwise I will have just to put on my tryhard pants and Ra/Kali that thing with perfectly set-up boards.

With that team you'll be able to get to the last floor, but you probably won't be able to deal enough damage to the bosses. What you could try if you're desperate is

Sonia - Echidna - Lilith - ultimate Beelzebub - D/D Loki - ultimate Lu Bu

That will give you 7 Skill Boosts. On Floor 2 you'll probably die, but sometimes you get lucky and you'll only get one Dublit on a 2-turn timer that you can kill, or all three of them will be on 3-turn or 4-turn timers.

[Necronopticous]

By the way Necro, do you receive a notification when you are chosen ? Is there any way you can know the number of times you were chosen ?

Yeah, you get a message saying that you were best-friended by someone. Also, you can just check your friends list and see who your best friends are. "Best Friend" is a bit of a weird name for the feature, and I think it is causing a lot of confusion. It's really more of a friend+ or special friend bond. Both users in the bond receive the same benefits (unrestricted access to 3 of each other's leaders, 100 pal points for each daily use of each of those leaders for a potential of 600 pal points per friend per day). The only aspect of the whole system that would imply "best" friend is that each member only gets one token to form a bond themselves.

In the Japanese version where this feature has been out longer, users have been refunded this bond-forming "token" on a few occasions, and that will probably happen for us as well. Very similar to the gift feature in that way.

[Necronopticous]

Both users in the bond receive the same benefits (unrestricted access to 3 of each other's leaders, 100 pal points for each daily use of each of those leaders for a potential of 600 pal points per friend per day).

I must revoke the bolded statement that I made here. After some testing tonight, it appears as though the 100 pal point bonus is only once per friend per day for a maximum potential of only 200 pal points per friend per day (if you each use at least one of the other's leads that day).

[cave hermit]

Just successfully ran the star vault dungeon, and not a single plus egg dropped :/

Well at least there's the magic stone.

[Necronopticous]

Star Vault is weird. It isn't even really worth bothering with until you can chain run it trivially (ideally 40-60 times per hour), but at that point it becomes far and away the most important dungeon in the entire game. I think it averages out to about 1.5 +eggs per run over time, but of course you're going to have runs where you get no plus eggs at all. My life basically revolves around Star Vault.

[guigui]

I'm also working on Friday mythical with :
Cao Cao / Red Odin / Red Odin / Laila / Freyr / Amaterasu attacker (thanks hermit)

Got 1/2 success rate today. I found that matching 2x3 reds + plus some combo on the first floor leaves two mythlits alive.
Then, if you are NOT lucky, lits go : red bind + attacks repeatedly and you are dead, despite Amaterasu 2500 health autorecover. Hermit, what are you waiting for to +297 this one !?
On the other hand, if lits give you some times, then the rest of the dungeons is cake. It is also funny to see how the skyfalls seem to adapt to your board to give you some kinds of immediate moves. I stock Red/Blue orbs at the bottom for later cao cao, say my board looks like :

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RDHDYY
YDGGHY
RBRBRB
BRBRBR
RBRBRB

If i match the Dark at the top, skyfall will tend to drop Green, Yellow, or Heart to give me immediate option, rather than Blue or Red. Maybe that was just some kind of luck, but it happened for like 10 skyfalls in a row.

About that Best Friend system, I recieved 100 Pal Points this morning but no one has chosen me as BF, or at least I did not get a notification for that.
Does this mean that Necro, who I chose as BF, used one of my leader once ?

Finally about +eggs, I also ran Star Vault once with no +eggs drops. At my rank (190), I found Mechdragon's Fortress during x5 +eggs drops quite good : I usually get at least 1, quite often 2, and sometimes 3 of them for a 50 stamina run. Not to mention the XP and good fodder gained.

[cave hermit]

Sorry Guigui, It's not like I have that many plus eggs :/

I popped 72 plus eggs awhile back on Leilaan, but unfortunately she's useless to me until I can roll an angelit from the pal machine, or successfully run Friday mythical myself.

I can however put +36 on Amaterasu right now; even with Leilan holding the attacker team back it's still doing quite well (it cleared star vault easily, which I found out afterwards is apparently deceptively hard).

I'm going through tech dungeons to get to the mech dragon fortress, although today I'm going to farm for dublits instead. I'm currently on the desert tech dungeon, and it looks like up until the mech dragon fortress the dungeons are fairly easy to clear. I'm not so sure how I'll actually fare against the mech dragons though.

That fruit dragon gift dungeon opened up this morning, and I was going to keep restarting it for a strawberry dragon for my red Guan Yu team, but on the second restart I realized that I was probably going to waste hundreds of stamina before seeing the strawberry one, so I just settled for the grape one.

Also I best friended you Necro.

[cave hermit]

Actually I might wait until I get a second +36 fodder before fusing them into Amaterasu; gotta save on them coins you know?

[Jon]

I'm currently on the desert tech dungeon, and it looks like up until the mech dragon fortress the dungeons are fairly easy to clear. I'm not so sure how I'll actually fare against the mech dragons though.

Mechdragons Massive Fortress was a bit of a roadblock for me but the rewards are pretty great once you get through it. 5 Combo Hadar is a great sub and guigui's right about the high +egg rate drop. I had around 15 drop in the 9 or 10 times I have run its dungeons.

There's so much in the link Aisha posted that I completely overlooked the the fact that soon, players reaching rank 150 will get a one time roll guaranteeing them a Sonia/Odin/Metatron. I can only assuming those who have already passed the required rank will also get to take part.

[cave hermit]

Aw, but that's for the japanese version so...

[Necronopticous]

So back on the topic of Star Vault. I was recently lucky enough to roll a 3rd(!) Red Odin. We now also have the Best Friend system, and I just uvo'd my Vritra. What does all of this mean? Well, I am working on a team that can clear Star Vault without having to match a single orb in 20-30 seconds per clear. It is an insane amount of work on a super gimmicky team, and also requires that I find someone with a +99 attack Vritra with the same investment in the same strategy willing to best friend me, so I have no idea if/when I will be able to pull it off, but it's a fun goal to work toward.

If you're curious, the team works like this:

Required:
Chaotic Flying General, Lu Bu (At least skill lv.2) +2 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Abyssal Darkdragon, Vritra (+99 ATK) +2 Skill Boost
Abyssal Darkdragon, Vritra (+29 ATK) +2 Skill Boost

This gives you exactly +15 Skill Boost, which means all actives are up on turn 1.

Then you press the glowy buttons in this order:

Lu Bu -> Red Odin -> Red Odin -> Red Odin -> Vritra -> Vritra

Collect + eggs.

[cave hermit]

I realized that a coin dungeon with lu bu's skill up is available for 500,000 coins now;

does dungeon difficulty affect non-boss drops at all? I may have asked this before, but I don't remember getting an answer.

[cave hermit]

So apparently there's a hello kitty collab with a REM coming this Monday.

Any real reason to roll it? As far as I can tell there isn't...

[Aisha]

Pompompurin has a great leader skill for a low-cost team, but I don't see anything special in there otherwise. I'd advise against rolling in collab egg machines until you're satisfied with what you have from the REM. The really good cards tend to be very rare; I'm reminded one guy in Japan needing over 110 tries to pull a Sephiroth from their recent Final Fantasy collab.

There's so much in the link Aisha posted that I completely overlooked the the fact that soon, players reaching rank 150 will get a one time roll guaranteeing them a Sonia/Odin/Metatron. I can only assuming those who have already passed the required rank will also get to take part.

Most other pantheon gods are also included in that deal. :\

[guigui]

So back on the topic of Star Vault. I was recently lucky enough to roll a 3rd(!) Red Odin. We now also have the Best Friend system, and I just uvo'd my Vritra. What does all of this mean? Well, I am working on a team that can clear Star Vault without having to match a single orb in 20-30 seconds per clear. It is an insane amount of work on a super gimmicky team, and also requires that I find someone with a +99 attack Vritra with the same investment in the same strategy willing to best friend me, so I have no idea if/when I will be able to pull it off, but it's a fun goal to work toward.

If you're curious, the team works like this:

Required:
Chaotic Flying General, Lu Bu (At least skill lv.2) +2 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Awoken Phantom God, Odin (Max skill) +3 Skill Boost
Abyssal Darkdragon, Vritra (+99 ATK) +2 Skill Boost
Abyssal Darkdragon, Vritra (+29 ATK) +2 Skill Boost

This gives you exactly +15 Skill Boost, which means all actives are up on turn 1.

Then you press the glowy buttons in this order:

Lu Bu -> Red Odin -> Red Odin -> Red Odin -> Vritra -> Vritra

Collect + eggs.

Crazy team for crazy purpose. I also saw one going like :
Goemon / Odin / Odin / Odin / Odin / Odin
This guy had Goemon skilled, so he was also active first turn. This team DID require an orb match though, you know, when the board is full red.

Buy the way, how do you skill up Odin ? Keep running Legendary Seaway to farm Odin Tamadra ?

I realized that a coin dungeon with lu bu's skill up is available for 500,000 coins now;

does dungeon difficulty affect non-boss drops at all? I may have asked this before, but I don't remember getting an answer.

For hermit, and from my small experience and readings : difficulty affects non-boss drop rate.
- Master gives a better drop rate for the fixed non-boss monster, shadron on floor 5 in your case.
- Legend is certainly better and worth the extra 10 stamina if you can clear it consistently.
- Expert may be as good as Master for non-boss monster because of rare spawn, but mainly when it has 2x drop rate, which does not happen with coin dungeons.
In your case, I'd say go for Master or Legend farming.

However ! I'm also building a devil team and find it way more important to skill-up my Vampire before skilling up Lu Bu. After all, you'll rarely spike damages more than once a dungeon, and will likely use the orb changing active of Vampire more often. Plus, skill up for Vampire is Bid Baddie, which is easily gotten in Dungeon of Darkness, 3rd dungeon.

In any case, the 2.5x skill up rate is not given that often, so now is the time to farm for skill up.

[Necronopticous]

Buy the way, how do you skill up Odin ? Keep running Legendary Seaway to farm Odin Tamadra ?

Legendary Seaway/Tamadra Village. For the latter, your typo here is actually quite appropriate! Buy the way, indeed.

[Aisha]

Lu Bu only really needs one skill-up, to synchronize him with a max-skilled Red Sonia; unless you plan on using him multiple times in one dungeon. I think for farming Three Kingdoms skill-up fodder from the Dragon Knight dungeons, Master is best.

The best place for Vampire skill-ups is Poring Tower. Big Baddies are a common drop there. Poring Tower actually skills up a lot of great cards, like Valkyrie and Cu Chulainn, so it's worth running it hard whenever it's around. Until then you'll have to evolve Baddies, and evolving skill-up fodder is never fun.

[Necronopticous]

The best place for Vampire skill-ups is Poring Tower. Big Baddies are a common drop there.

Agree with this, however since we don't get this too often, my go-to for Vampire/Dark Valkyrie skill ups is always just chain running tier 1 Dungeon of Darkness -> Moon Death Dragon during 1/2 stamina for plain old Baddies and Amelits, then evoing them to Big Baddies. Surprisingly effective, albeit boring as shit.

[cave hermit]

I had a second chibi lu bu I wasn't using so I tried fusing it into my big Lu Bu to save some time.

No dice.

I also plopped 3 more awakenings onto him and bind proofed him; just two more until he's fully awakened!

[Geist]

With that team you'll be able to get to the last floor, but you probably won't be able to deal enough damage to the bosses. What you could try if you're desperate is<BR abp="1394"><BR abp="1395">Sonia - Echidna - Lilith - ultimate Beelzebub - D/D Loki - ultimate Lu Bu<BR abp="1396"><BR abp="1397">That will give you 7 Skill Boosts. On Floor 2 you'll probably die, but sometimes you get lucky and you'll only get one Dublit on a 2-turn timer that you can kill, or all three of them will be on 3-turn or 4-turn timers.

Almost made it to the last floor with the ogre brigade... Lilith was only level 30. Gonna show her some TLC so she can bite a bit harder.

[Vexorg]

I haven't figured out an effective team for Friday Dungeon yet on mine. I think the closest I've got would be a LMeta team, but I really haven't developed that team all that well.

I did manage to get my main account back though. Apparently the client update fixed whatever issue was happening. Not playing a whole lot right now though, spending some time on Super Mario PAD.

[cave hermit]

So any tips for the mech dragon dungeon? When I got to the flame chimera on floor 5 I only had one turn before it one hit killed me, and I barely put a scratch on it!

[guigui]

Chimera on floor 5 of mechdragon is the ennemy that actually killed me the most in here. She can be pretty hard if you're not prepared.
You gotta stall the first four floors to make sure you have an active that will kill or delay her. Also, those dungeon are almost monocolor, so dont hesitate to give yourself a color advantage.

Vexorg, do you enjoy the Super Mario PAD ? I have not devoted much time into it yet, but plan to do it when internet connection will not be available to me, will it be a nice substitute ?

[cave hermit]

I bought and ran dragon plant infestation, and managed to ult evolve myself a D/D Lilith!

I still have 15 dragon plants, so hopefully it'll be enough to level and evolve my vampire (by the way, which ult evo path should I take with it?)

[Aisha]

D/B Vampire. The other requires a Devilit and its primary attribute is water, which doesn't have synergy with typical devil teams.

[guigui]

It is funny how cave hermit and I are always doing the same thing. Currently building a Devil team to consistently farm King of the Gods, which I cant do with my attacker team.
Do you guys think this one will do ?
Lu Bu / Lu Bu / Hadar / Vampire / DL Lilith / Red Sonia

Also, is there a place where I can see which dungeon has which bonus on which days ? Something like :

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Dungeon of Darkness : 1/2 stamina on friday afternoon
Starlight Sanctuary : 1.5 drop rate on week end
Heros Hideout : 1.5 drop rate on ??
Etc...

[Geist]

Also, is there a place where I can see which dungeon has which bonus on which days ?

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/?dir=1