Never_Scurred wrote:"SJW", I would've figured the so-called "oppressed straight white guy majority" could've come up with something more creative than that.
Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
Never_Scurred wrote:"SJW", I would've figured the so-called "oppressed straight white guy majority" could've come up with something more creative than that.
You must have unlimited time and money!Squire Grooktook wrote:I really don't see why I should care about game journalism, one way or the other.
Here is where I'm going to have to part ways with you. #GG to me isn't about real-world feminism, it's about rampant incompetence and corruption in the gaming press. That article I linked was about the author shoehorning social justice into the piece to garner himself SJW cred instead of doing his damn job. I agree that "Yes means yes" is a step in the wrong direction, but if you think feminists run the world right now you haven't been paying attention to what's going on with abortion laws or the supreme court's shenanigans lately.evil_ash_xero wrote:Stuff in the real world is much more important, such as what's going on in universities, and laws being passed ("yes means yes" law, in CA)....but this is something that looks like we actually can win.
On the contrary, gaming has become an incredibly cheap hobby for me over the years. Seeing as how the western triple aaa mainstream games have almost invariably been totally uninteresting to me for the past few years, I barely ever end up purchasing a game that's more than 20 dollars or so. Occasionally delving into Nintendo products and a few other things (Xenoblade, Platinum Games titles, etc.) is about as pricey as it gets. Most of my purchases these days are of niche titles that fall within my realm of interest, and usually cost under 20 dollars or so.Mischief Maker wrote:You must have unlimited time and money!Squire Grooktook wrote:I really don't see why I should care about game journalism, one way or the other.
Except for the part where neither GamerGate nor GameJournalism have any interest in these games. At all. Zero. And are doing nothing to help that issue. Even if GamerGate added "let's make tense, arcade styled, and deep games a priority!" getting the mainstream (both journalism and the mainstream gaming audience themselves) to embrace them would be like trying to build an igloo in Hell.Mischief Maker wrote: Also, attention in the gaming press makes the difference between a publisher making one obscure title and fading away, or becoming successful and releasing more and more games in their particular style, copycats who innovate on top of that style, etc.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
Completely agree. Even more of a shame that developers want their games to walk side-by-side with film. Essentially the reason the whole industry is so misguided.Ed Oscuro wrote:The real shame is that this attitude that games should be reviewed like film
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Even worse, film producers have for years wanted to make their movies more like videogames.Skykid wrote:Completely agree. Even more of a shame that developers want their games to walk side-by-side with film. Essentially the reason the whole industry is so misguided.Ed Oscuro wrote:The real shame is that this attitude that games should be reviewed like film
Tell me about it.On the contrary, gaming has become an incredibly cheap hobby for me over the years.
Like Titanic!Ed Oscuro wrote:"My main goal as a director is to make films more accessible"
This is exactly why we're going to see tons of the "SJW" journalism in the future.Squire Grooktook wrote:GameJournalism have any interest in these games. At all. Zero.
I actually feel that it's not better, more the same. However my experience is that a lot of playstyles an types of experiences I enjoy have become more marginalized and niche, to the point of these genres becoming endangered.Obscura wrote:With that said, I simply can't agree with the notion that "games now suck compared to how things used to be!" The average quality of games is a lot higher now than it was 20 years ago (I mean, seriously, just think about how bad the crap that was all over the shelves of your local KB Toys was...),
I think they have, particularly for single player genres. Fighters? People can understand competition. Hack and slash? I don't know a single person who's gone for an above bronze medal in Bayonetta, who isn't already a member of this forum or who wasn't directly convinced to do so by yours truly <3Obscura wrote:Furthermore, I can't agree with the assertion that the taste for "hardcore/challenging" games has changed over the last two decades
Different tastes for different folks, but the sense that the arcade style or styles influenced by that sense of strict punishment have been marginalized in the mainstream market is an impression I distinctly have.Obscura wrote: that only "hard or arcade style" games are worth a player's time.
This might be a difference in perspective, as despite my recent involvement with pc gaming, I've always previously been a primarily console oriented player. When I think of all the things I don't like about mainstream games, most of it is in regard to western aaa console releases and the trends for them that have emerged for the past 5-7 years or so. I confess I may be somewhat in the dark for western PC exclusive trends, a market I've only recently been dabbling in.Obscura wrote:Finally, it strikes me as strange to see people claiming that arcade-style design is less appreciated now than it used to be when AAA games on PC have moved away from quicksave systems towards checkpoint systems.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
If you're recruiting people who like skill-based games for this forum, then "the only people I know who like skill-based games post on this forum" is going to have one hell of a selection biasSquire Grooktook wrote:I think they have, particularly for single player genres. Fighters? People can understand competition. Hack and slash? I don't know a single person who's gone for an above bronze medal in Bayonetta, who isn't already a member of this forum or who wasn't directly convinced to do so by yours truly <3
Why bother struggling to 1cc Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts when Final Fantasy IV or FFVI or Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana or Lufia etc. all offer gigantic worlds to explore that don't punish the player or require effort to progress in?Or perhaps it's not so much that they've changed, as alternatives have opened that invalidate that experience for many people. Struggling to 1cc a shmup on your sega genesis? You bought it, and a 20 minute game isn't that bad when most games aren't much longer. Why bother putting that much effort in nowadays when there are gigantic (but yawn worthy, to me) worlds to explore that don't punish the player or require effort to progress in?
Actually was referring to a friend from another forum who usually plays nothing but Minecraft and mmo's, who I convinced to spend extra time with the game lol.Obscura wrote:If you're recruiting people who like skill-based games for this forum, then "the only people I know who like skill-based games post on this forum" is going to have one hell of a selection biasSquire Grooktook wrote:I think they have, particularly for single player genres. Fighters? People can understand competition. Hack and slash? I don't know a single person who's gone for an above bronze medal in Bayonetta, who isn't already a member of this forum or who wasn't directly convinced to do so by yours truly <3
The Final Fantasy's and jrpg's of the past were a bit different though.Obscura wrote: Why bother struggling to 1cc Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts when Final Fantasy IV or FFVI or Chrono Trigger or Secret of Mana or Lufia etc. all offer gigantic worlds to explore that don't punish the player or require effort to progress in?
These games have always been there.
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
I'm torn on this. Basically the journo got sent to a flashy gaming preview event for a game he doesn't give a damn about, and said as much. On one hand I feel as though he's failed in his responsibilities to report things about the game that readers may have an interest in, on the other hand I feel as though he's been candid about the stupidity of glossy expensive preview events and the stupidity of publications who send authors to them who don't have any experience in the genre.Drum wrote:Could you please write it down? I don't want to give TotalBiscuit's soundcloud the hits either.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.
First of all, the fact that he found it so important to say not once but twice that he was discussing "government in the Philippines," just in case you didn't realize how worldly and intellectual he was the first time, earns this guy ironclad douchebag credentials.Skykid wrote:I'm torn on this. Basically the journo got sent to a flashy gaming preview event for a game he doesn't give a damn about, and said as much. On one hand I feel as though he's failed in his responsibilities to report things about the game that readers may have an interest in, on the other hand I feel as though he's been candid about the stupidity of glossy expensive preview events and the stupidity of publications who send authors to them who don't have any experience in the genre.Drum wrote:Could you please write it down? I don't want to give TotalBiscuit's soundcloud the hits either.
It's a tough call, but ultimately it's one of those who really gives a fuck kind of things.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
A very good point you have here:Mischief Maker wrote:then spent the remainder of the evening masturbating in his hotel room.
I've read your post 3 times and I'm still too dense to get your point. Are you saying that I'm comparing myself to the reviewer as some sort of paragon? I'd like to think the wanking joke was clear, the dude didn't want to be at the party and proceeded to spend the rest of the article talking about WHY he was just so cool that the event was beneath him. I'd rather he masturbate in his hotel room than all over my monitor.BryanM wrote:A very good point you have here:Mischief Maker wrote:then spent the remainder of the evening masturbating in his hotel room.
* No one in the media can be as truthful or as full of giving a fuck as we can be.
Just as
* No one can care about boobies as much as I do.
Good thing it's 2015 and no one has to pay attention to The Media anymore, eh?
Yeah you're overthinking it.Mischief Maker wrote:But then again I might have completely misinterpreted your post.
If the words are indeed accurate, then the writer comes across as someone who should probably be at wine and cheese parties talking about minimalism in contemporary art cinema. Wankers, basically.Skykid wrote:I'm torn on this. Basically the journo got sent to a flashy gaming preview event for a game he doesn't give a damn about, and said as much. On one hand I feel as though he's failed in his responsibilities to report things about the game that readers may have an interest in, on the other hand I feel as though he's been candid about the stupidity of glossy expensive preview events and the stupidity of publications who send authors to them who don't have any experience in the genre.
Not sure if he's qualified to talk about minimalism in contemporary art cinema, although in my experience most people try to defend their career path by demonstrating a higher knowledge in some other field. I couldn't understand game journo's motivations in that respect (they play games for a living! *cliche*) until I compared them to the average joe in an average job, working the office, flogging the retail, and then I realised the world is a colourless corporate mill where we're all essentially running in the same rat wheel and desperate to tell other people we're actually lucid beings with some kind of intelligence and cognition outside of our bread making roles.system11 wrote:If the words are indeed accurate, then the writer comes across as someone who should probably be at wine and cheese parties talking about minimalism in contemporary art cinema. Wankers, basically.Skykid wrote:I'm torn on this. Basically the journo got sent to a flashy gaming preview event for a game he doesn't give a damn about, and said as much. On one hand I feel as though he's failed in his responsibilities to report things about the game that readers may have an interest in, on the other hand I feel as though he's been candid about the stupidity of glossy expensive preview events and the stupidity of publications who send authors to them who don't have any experience in the genre.
ChurchOfSolipsism wrote: ALso, this is how SKykid usually posts
Aeon Zenith - My STG.RegalSin wrote:Japan an almost perfect society always threatened by outsiders....................
Instead I am stuck in the America's where women rule with an iron crotch, and a man could get arrested for sitting behind a computer too long.