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Smashbro29 wrote:Has there been any projects to improve the terrible video output of the Wii? I see them for older systems all the time but it would be interesting to see a project that made Wii's component output not ass.
Is it really that bad? Maybe with only Gamecube games? Xenoblade looks great on my PVM
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I think Unseen's GCN component cable reverse engineering has been kind of tossed around as potentially being useable in the Wii too. There was mention of the DAC being incredibly difficult to solder to as I recall, and nobody's tried it or anything.

For Gamecube games, forcing 480p in Swiss gives me a noticeably better picture on my Wii. General consensus is that the Wii applies a blur filter in 480p.
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Yeah the project was done by Nintendo back in 07. It's called component.
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Does anyone know a good source for PS1 SCART cables? Since the same connector was used all the way through the PS1 I would have thought that they'd be more common.

I normally buy from retro_console_accessories, but she doesn't have any Playstation cables up now. Can't find any official cables or even a picture of what they look like.

What's a good 3rd party brand people have used that I can get shipped to America in one way or another?

EDIT: I see retrogamingcables has them, but I've had a really bad experience with them in the past- HORRIBLE audio buzzing and some video interference. Do they still only wire up one grounding pin? That seemed to be the main problem.
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You can contact her. Often she has the components or is just waiting on one part. She's put up one off auctions for me before for unlisted items.
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bobrocks95 wrote:Does anyone know a good source for PS1 SCART cables? Since the same connector was used all the way through the PS1 I would have thought that they'd be more common.
If you can find a PS2/3 component cable that also has a composite video lead then you can use that. Gamestop's multi-system AV cables are like that. Bonus is that they work with Xbox 360 and Wii too.
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Einzelherz wrote:You can contact her. Often she has the components or is just waiting on one part. She's put up one off auctions for me before for unlisted items.
Thanks, I'll give that a shot first. Might as well go with what I trust.
BazookaBen wrote:If you can find a PS2/3 component cable that also has a composite video lead then you can use that. Gamestop's multi-system AV cables are like that. Bonus is that they work with Xbox 360 and Wii too.
So then it would be outputting RGBs over component cables and I could feed it into a YPbPr converter (with a SCART adapter)?
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BazookaBen wrote:
Smashbro29 wrote:Has there been any projects to improve the terrible video output of the Wii? I see them for older systems all the time but it would be interesting to see a project that made Wii's component output not ass.
Is it really that bad? Maybe with only Gamecube games? Xenoblade looks great on my PVM
It's pretty bad. Lot worse than PS2 and Xbox.
bobrocks95 wrote:I think Unseen's GCN component cable reverse engineering has been kind of tossed around as potentially being useable in the Wii too. There was mention of the DAC being incredibly difficult to solder to as I recall, and nobody's tried it or anything.

For Gamecube games, forcing 480p in Swiss gives me a noticeably better picture on my Wii. General consensus is that the Wii applies a blur filter in 480p.
Blur filter would make a lot of sense. It's so washed out and blurry.
Einzelherz wrote:Yeah the project was done by Nintendo back in 07. It's called component.
Too bad it kinda blows though.
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bobrocks95 wrote:So then it would be outputting RGBs over component cables and I could feed it into a YPbPr converter (with a SCART adapter)?
If it can take composite video for sync, yeah.
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Smashbro29 wrote:
BazookaBen wrote:
Smashbro29 wrote:Has there been any projects to improve the terrible video output of the Wii? I see them for older systems all the time but it would be interesting to see a project that made Wii's component output not ass.
Is it really that bad? Maybe with only Gamecube games? Xenoblade looks great on my PVM
It's pretty bad. Lot worse than PS2 and Xbox.
bobrocks95 wrote:I think Unseen's GCN component cable reverse engineering has been kind of tossed around as potentially being useable in the Wii too. There was mention of the DAC being incredibly difficult to solder to as I recall, and nobody's tried it or anything.

For Gamecube games, forcing 480p in Swiss gives me a noticeably better picture on my Wii. General consensus is that the Wii applies a blur filter in 480p.
Blur filter would make a lot of sense. It's so washed out and blurry.
Einzelherz wrote:Yeah the project was done by Nintendo back in 07. It's called component.
Too bad it kinda blows though.
I dunno, SMG and SMG2 both look great. As does F-Zero playing through it. In fact, everything but the home menu look pretty good to my recollection. Can you list the games you have issues with since it seems like your assessment doesn't agree with mine and others'?
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do some PS1 games have worse frame rate on PS2 compared to the PS1. I don't recall it slowing down this often but its been forever since I played Breath of Fire 4 on an actual PS1.
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styrmling wrote:do some PS1 games have worse frame rate on PS2 compared to the PS1. I don't recall it slowing down this often but its been forever since I played Breath of Fire 4 on an actual PS1.
Yes. The most notable example is Gradius Gaiden. On a PS2 most of Stage 7 "On The Event Horizon" is played in perpetual slow-down, while the speed remains normal when played on a PS1. I'm guessing it's related to some esoteric programming trick that works fine on a PS1, but has an unexpected effect on a PS2.
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Ghegs wrote:
styrmling wrote:do some PS1 games have worse frame rate on PS2 compared to the PS1. I don't recall it slowing down this often but its been forever since I played Breath of Fire 4 on an actual PS1.
Yes. The most notable example is Gradius Gaiden. On a PS2 most of Stage 7 "On The Event Horizon" is played in perpetual slow-down, while the speed remains normal when played on a PS1. I'm guessing it's related to some esoteric programming trick that works fine on a PS1, but has an unexpected effect on a PS2.
I guess I better go look for a used psone hopefully not too used.
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Einzelherz wrote:You can contact her. Often she has the components or is just waiting on one part. She's put up one off auctions for me before for unlisted items.
No go on that end. Her Chinese supplier for Playstation plugs has gone under and she hasn't had time to re-negotiate with another supplier.

I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and go with retrogamingcables, but I'd like to hear from someone who's bought a cable from them recently- do they still only wire up one ground pin?
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Does anyone know which pin in the socket for a Commodore 1084P's (Philips model) linear RGB socket the csync line goes to? Need to make a pair of DIN6 adapters from SCART.

[EDIT] Looking online, it does seem it is possible to use CSYNC over the HSYNC line of the DIN6. Just need confirmation on that.

Also, where can one buy SCART-F sockets from to make the adapters? I am looking at a deadline of mid-July to get the adapters made (both DIN6 and one to the 1084D's DE-9 socket).
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bobrocks95 wrote:
Einzelherz wrote:You can contact her. Often she has the components or is just waiting on one part. She's put up one off auctions for me before for unlisted items.
No go on that end. Her Chinese supplier for Playstation plugs has gone under and she hasn't had time to re-negotiate with another supplier.

I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and go with retrogamingcables, but I'd like to hear from someone who's bought a cable from them recently- do they still only wire up one ground pin?
I'm not the most savvy when it comes to cables, but I have a cable from retrogamingcables (for the same reason you're looking at one) and it seems passable. I get some noise but it's not super noticeable. I'll probably end up getting one from retro_console_accessories if she gets back in to that game. For now, though, it works perfectly well.
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bobrocks95 wrote:I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and go with retrogamingcables, but I'd like to hear from someone who's bought a cable from them recently- do they still only wire up one ground pin?
Yep got a PS Scart (Luma) maybe 2 weeks ago and only pin 4 is wired up.
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NightSprinter wrote:Does anyone know which pin in the socket for a Commodore 1084P's (Philips model) linear RGB socket the csync line goes to? Need to make a pair of DIN6 adapters from SCART.

[EDIT] Looking online, it does seem it is possible to use CSYNC over the HSYNC line of the DIN6. Just need confirmation on that.

Also, where can one buy SCART-F sockets from to make the adapters? I am looking at a deadline of mid-July to get the adapters made (both DIN6 and one to the 1084D's DE-9 socket).
I'm guessing you're referring to the 1048S-P, which I don't see CSYNC at all on the pinouts: http://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor ... onitor.pdf
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I have read on another forum that they got it working on one of the two sync lines.
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bobrocks95 wrote:
Einzelherz wrote:You can contact her. Often she has the components or is just waiting on one part. She's put up one off auctions for me before for unlisted items.
No go on that end. Her Chinese supplier for Playstation plugs has gone under and she hasn't had time to re-negotiate with another supplier.

I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and go with retrogamingcables, but I'd like to hear from someone who's bought a cable from them recently- do they still only wire up one ground pin?
No idea about how they wire them, but I received an SNES scart cable today, zero buzzing issues.
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I have a Sony SDM-HS95P 4:3 LCD display that i use for the xb360 with VGA cable , the monitor has DVI input , so i got a DVI to HDMI connector and picture looked superb , next day i wanted to play the monitor doesn't display image in DVI a few hours later randomly it worked again with the xb360 , i connected different sources to the DVI input (PS3-Retron5) and it worked , so the cable or the dvi-hdmi converter not the problem (i also try a hdmi to DVI cable and the same results). I understand this monitor its not HDCP so handshake should be the problem , but what its kills me its that it randomly works with the xb360.


Anyone experience this kind of issue with the xb360 HDMI to DVI or know some kind of configuration to make it work as i want and not randomly?
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were psone's always so noisey when seeking? sounds like a printer or something.
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Anyone experience this kind of issue with the xb360 HDMI to DVI or know some kind of configuration to make it work as i want and not randomly?
Your XBox might have "display discovery" switched on and you possible turned on your 360 before your display. If you disable this, set a compatible resolution and force the output to RGB manually, you shouldn't have anymore troubles.
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So I have used these 3 systems on my HD TV:
NES (Composite)
Wii U (HDMI - 480p, 720p and 1080p)
RetroN 5 (HDMI - 720p)

With Game Mode off and on...
The NES will give me around 1 frame of lag, which is awesome.
Wii U will give me 0% lag.
But the RetroN5 will give me bad lag... and it's not the RetroN5's own emulation lag, there's more added to that by the TV because the same machine with the same cable but on a Dell computer monitor I have, will show no lag except for the RetroN5's own emulation.

Why would the TV add lag to the RetroN5 even though it can use the same cable and resolution as the Wii U?

This is my HD TV: http://www.insigniaproducts.com/product ... 50A11.html
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Fudoh wrote:
Anyone experience this kind of issue with the xb360 HDMI to DVI or know some kind of configuration to make it work as i want and not randomly?
Your XBox might have "display discovery" switched on and you possible turned on your 360 before your display. If you disable this, set a compatible resolution and force the output to RGB manually, you shouldn't have anymore troubles.

I just try it and didn't work , i also try different lower resolutions and looks like this Monitor just hate DVI from Xb360 :cry:
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YONKE wrote: I just try it and didn't work , i also try different lower resolutions and looks like this Monitor just hate DVI from Xb360 :cry:
I have an LCD monitor that my PS3 just plain doesn't work with, but my 360 does. I guess some of the old DVI monitors are finnicky
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styrmling wrote:were psone's always so noisey when seeking? sounds like a printer or something.
The older PS1s with vibration damper under the drive should be slightly quieter than newer models. Launch PS2s are the worst in my experience.
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Xan wrote:
styrmling wrote:were psone's always so noisey when seeking? sounds like a printer or something.
The older PS1s with vibration damper under the drive should be slightly quieter than newer models. Launch PS2s are the worst in my experience.
I have a 7001 that makes a lot of ticking noise while operating. I worried that it was because I opened it to dust the inside but I can't recall if it ticked before.
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what cheat device did i just buy? it has one less ridge on the side than the typical action replay cart.
it was listed as a region free device, so as long as it has that function i'll be pleased.

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