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Magica x Magica - Saddest shmup ever?

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http://www.siliconera.com/2015/04/17/ma ... oter-ever/

I hear that Korea's aiming to make the saddest shooter ever, but will this game surpass the sadness of the likes of other shooting games like the R-Type series, Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, Alltynex, and even Elemental Gearbolt and Spec Ops: The Line (both of which aren't really shmups, the former being a light gun game and the second being a first-person shooter)?
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xxx1993 wrote:http://www.siliconera.com/2015/04/17/ma ... oter-ever/

I hear that Korea's aiming to make the saddest shooter ever, but will this game surpass the sadness of the likes of other shooting games like the R-Type series, Radiant Silvergun, Ikaruga, Alltynex, and even Elemental Gearbolt and Spec Ops: The Line (both of which aren't really shmups, the former being a light gun game and the second being a first-person shooter)?
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It's so sad the trailer made me cry so much I had to call an ambulance due to severe dehydration
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So, is it as sad as those other shmups I just mentioned now?
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xxx1993 wrote:So, is it as sad as those other shmups I just mentioned now?
Are you serious? I only watched the trailer. :/
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Well, okay.
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S A D B O Y S
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So it's like one of those endless runner things? But with shooting?
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Bananamatic wrote:S A D B O Y S
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Magic Cube aimed to make Magica x Magica the “saddest shooter” possible.
So in other words, they set out to make a bad game.
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obligatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSnR80kY0m0

also my first thought upon seeing the topic tile was that it was "sad" in the sense that it was pathetic shit :|
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The concept sounds like something Lowtax would have played.

To give this more seriousness then it probably deserves, it sounds like a bad move to openly advertise your game as "sad" let alone saddest ever. Radiant Silvergun's nihilism was cool because it came out of nowhere and wasn't something the game really hit you over the head with. Filling your game with openly cloying concepts and attempts at emotional manipulation from the beginning in an attempt to be "sad" sounds like a recipe for narm. Subtlety is where it's at.

I believe the word I'm looking for is "tryhard".
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I could dig a sad shumpin, if the announcer said things like "FUCK YOU DAD!" and "DON'T YOU TELL ME HOW I FEEL"

Also if this song started playing when you were riding that last life Garegga SUPERPLAYA style
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Hmm, saddest shooter ever, let me think about this. How about:

Invaders from the dimensional plane of pure despair are invading! Enemy bullets are concentrated personifications of hopelessness itself. Graze them to raise your Angst Meter, and unleash the Emobomb for mass destruction! But avoid direct hits as they cauze you "cuts".
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Ooh! Ooh! Let me try~

...Earth has been conquered by an imperialistic supremacist alien nation that plans to enslave the human race and force them to build weapons of mass destruction for the aliens to use in their never-ending quest to conquer the universe. You are the human race's only hope, and must stop the aliens with your super-prototype fighter ship.

After you succeed in destroying the flagship, you suddenly wake up on an operating table surrounded by alien scientists. It turns out your entire quest never actually happened. You and a handful of other humans who had the potential and willpower to stop the invasion had been taken aboard one of the alien's research ships and put into a temporary simulation to prevent you from actually rising up against the invasion. The only reason the simulation was an optimistic one was because alien research had found that the sensations of hope and happiness were most effective in preventing you from realizing nothing around you was actually real.

While you were trapped in the simulation, Earth, along with every human being on it was destroyed. The aliens had decided that humans simply weren't competent enough to properly manufacture the alien's advanced war machines, and so they were disposed of.

After you awaken from the simulation, the aliens swiftly execute you and the others aboard the ship.

There is no second loop, because you died.
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You killed all the aliens but then you wake up and realize you were on drugs and you were in a mental institution killing nurses and doctors.

Feels bad.
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You shot down the enemy but you can't shoot down the loneliness inside you.
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My Little Pegasus:

All your friends have turned evil. You blow them up in self defense and eradicate the formless mass of evil that caused it all. Then you wake up because you were dreaming, and you have to kill your friends again and kill the mass of evil again. After that, your friends are dead permanently.

The end.
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EmperorIng wrote:You shot down the enemy but you can't shoot down the loneliness inside you.
Nor shoot it up! :shock:

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Will it even surpass Akai Katana? I mean, half the cast had to kill a friend or relative before the game even starts (as did the bosses o.o), and the only ending that doesn't end in one or both or your characters committing suicide is the one that ends in murder! Not to mention all the promo and end-stage art with sad people, dead people, sad dead people, and even SPARKLING TEARS OF SADNESS!

Giest118 wrote:My Little Pegasus:

All your friends have turned evil. You blow them up in self defense and eradicate the formless mass of evil that caused it all. Then you wake up because you were dreaming, and you have to kill your friends again and kill the mass of evil again. After that, your friends are dead permanently.

The end.
Sounds good! You should totally make that! ... Wait a minute...
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So, what if when you kill the last boss, your ship docks with his, and the player-character becomes the boss for the next loop.

The game would loop infinitely, since the violence never ends.

And then I can get a featured article on Polygon.com, about the emotional feelings my game provoked.
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iOS and Android :/

I really hate smartphones. Games and ideas which might otherwise have turned into things worth playing forever lost to something on which almost any title is compromised by a lack of controls and a $1 mindset.
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Gun Frontier is a sad shmup.
Squire Grooktook wrote:Filling your game with openly cloying concepts and attempts at emotional manipulation from the beginning in an attempt to be "sad" sounds like a recipe for narm.
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Squire Grooktook wrote:You killed all the aliens but then you wake up and realize you were on drugs and you were in a mental institution killing nurses and doctors.

Feels bad.
That sounds like Spec Ops: The Line right there.
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Obiwanshinobi wrote:Gun Frontier is a sad shmup.
Squire Grooktook wrote:Filling your game with openly cloying concepts and attempts at emotional manipulation from the beginning in an attempt to be "sad" sounds like a recipe for narm.
My problem with about every "survival horror" game is the "horror" label.
Gun Frontier? What about Metal Black?
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Metal Burack isn't sad! It's a poignant testament to human will and selflessness. Hunky Pilot Guy may have been reckless in his shattering of the COMPROMISE CALLED PEACE, but he refused to give up on humanity long after we'd given up on ourselves, and fought for us until the bitter end.

Or maybe he was just really angry at those alien cocksuckers and wanted bloody vengeance at everyone else's expense. >_>

But he still fought to the end when nobody could tell if any of that shit was actually happening anymore, which has to count for something.

God rest he soul!

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"Nobody knows yet" is as accurate a description as I can give to Metal Black's ending. If the earth did indeed crack like a hardboiled egg that would be a downer ending. But nobody knows yet.

Then again, the hunky pilot guy eventually becomes the mayor of the city in Dino Rex's fever-dream sequences. What a weird continuity.
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EmperorIng wrote:"Nobody knows yet" is as accurate a description as I can give to Metal Black's ending. If the earth did indeed crack like a hardboiled egg that would be a downer ending. But nobody knows yet.
I think that was just the final image Omega Zone displayed.

I'm inclined to accept the supposed "bad ending" as what actually transpires in the story, regardless of whether you "win" or lose. Where a military coup breaks the freeze on Project Metal Black, and 10,000 newly mass-produced Blackfly launch off to avenge the pilot and defeat the Nemesis forces. The pilot probably didn't die, he got sent back in time to "BC 2500 Amazonia" to appear in Dino Rex. Not a huge stretch if Omega Zone could pull up several images from human history.

Or maybe not, because that was a dream sequence in Dino Rex. Well.
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EmperorIng wrote:You shot down the enemy but you can't shoot down the loneliness inside you.
For every point I gain, I lose a piece of my soul...

Each extend only prolongs my suffering...

For every moment I live, the world around me grows more hostile...

And worst of all...

Suicide won't make this game any easier...
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