Puzzle & Dragons

[guigui]

A well-formed Hero team steamrolls that dungeon. I use Pandora for 2-3 minute clears.

Hero team ? I have blue and red Odin and that's about it. One day I'll update my collection on PADherder (is there any way to do it automatically ?) and ask for you guys help to build a correct farming team.

Also, Echidna is now max-skilled. With Scarlet Snake Princess at 2x drop and Skill up at 2.5x, it took me about 20 runs (expert level only), 300 stamina, 20 fused Nagas. It feels like I got lucky here.

[Aisha]

I'm not sure if there's a solution for iOS, but on Android there's an app called PADListener that's designed to update your PADherder automatically. I'm not sure how well it works because I just manage mine manually.

Max-skilling any card with only 20 feeds is great. I had similar luck with my Echidna, but I think I'm paying for it now with bad skill-up luck.

[guigui]

I'm on Android and tried PADListener. The app looks very good and quite automatic, but does not capture my datas at PAD launch for whatever reasons.
You say you could get it to work via manual capture, but not auto capture ? This would be enough to me.
I should try to contact the developper Neraud on some forums, he seems willing to help users.

[Aisha]

Oh -- I've never used PADListener. I meant that I manage my PADherder by hand through its normal web interface. I'm not sure what the problem could be, but you might be able to find some hints in some of these threads https://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDrago ... ance&t=all

[Geist]

The skill-up dilemma... or how to lower your expectations...

Wasted so much stamina on the Sun-Quan skill-up dungeon...but no drops...
But managed to get my Drawn Joker to 6/7, and Homura 4/5...
Also got 8 Wicked Ladies waiting to be evod.

The Thursday mythical is beckoning, I have decided to give it a go but the Tamadra double binded half of my team, so that I didnt stand a chance on the last floor, guess I will have to pop Echidna to avoid the bind and take it from there next time...

Good to know about the announced iOS 5 lockout as I am still using an original iPad to puzzle, guess I will have to transfer the data to a newer device. I wish I started on the NA servers though, your special events seem to be much better, with 3x invades and 2.5 skill-ups...

[guigui]

Thanks for the link Aisha, I'll try it.

I wish I started on the NA servers though, your special events seem to be much better, with 3x invades and 2.5 skill-ups...

We also get monsters wayyyyyy after JP.

EDIT :
So I just tried myself to challenge dungeon level 4 to get that +9 tamadra. Team is Alraune/Red Odin/Blue Odin/sub 1 cost/sub 1 cost/Green Odin
As you see, I just plan on tanking damage, stalling, and kill with Odins. This works pretty well up to floor 10 where I meet the Chaos Blizzard Dragon.
According to this page
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1134
he should damage me for 13455 with his Chaos Ray (80% reduction Green Odin). So I made a team that has about 15500 health to resist it and just autoheal until the next attack.
However it turns out that he deals 16578 damages instead, and kills me. Anything I missed about damage calculation, or is that page just wrong about the output damage ?

[Vexorg]

I recently started using my standard Ronia team with an added orb changer for Thursday Mythical (+297 Ronia leads, Awoken Hera-Ur, Lu Bu, +297 ROdin, max skilled Ares, for my standard farming team I use D/F Lucifer instead of Ares, and ROdin is basically there as a stat stick) and have done reasonably well with that. It's not 100% consistent, but it works well enough.

Before that, I was using my ROdin as a lead for Thursday Mythical, but I had a hard time finding ROdin friend leads to use for it. That team looked like ROdin/ROdin, Ares, Gigas, Ronia, Echidna with Echidna being used on the third floor to buy some time. This team mostly worked, but is less consistent than my Ronia team. Either way, you'll need to spend some time stalling for actives on floor 3, which means you may need to use a few turns waiting out the binds (not matching orbs to keep from killing Baby Tama.) The trick is that you need to be able to mass attack on the first floor to get rid of the Dragon Seeds on the first turn or each one can one-shot you, hence the need for an orb changer to make sure you have five of your primary attack color. Even with an orb changer it is possible to get orb trolled and lose a run, but usually you'll get enough orbs to make it through the first three floors without too much trouble. You can generally take one hit from the red or blue dragon fruits on the fourth floor if you get there, but with two Ronias + Lu Bu you can generally take them out within the two turns you'll have.

[guigui]

Thanks for explanations about thursday mythical. I can now see that I'm closer to do it that expected. However, I dont have Red Sonia, nor the max team cost required to handle such a team. Let's just grind a little more then !

[guigui]

Auto-quote, double post, and all you should not do on forums. Sorry but I have to keep busy with PAD in order not to break the wallet for a PS4 and Bloodborne...

So I just tried myself to challenge dungeon level 4 to get that +9 tamadra. Team is Alraune/Red Odin/Blue Odin/sub 1 cost/sub 1 cost/Green Odin
As you see, I just plan on tanking damage, stalling, and kill with Odins. This works pretty well up to floor 10 where I meet the Chaos Blizzard Dragon.
According to this page
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1134
he should damage me for 13455 with his Chaos Ray (80% reduction Green Odin). So I made a team that has about 15500 health to resist it and just autoheal until the next attack.
However it turns out that he deals 16578 damages instead, and kills me. Anything I missed about damage calculation, or is that page just wrong about the output damage ?

This other site http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Challenge_Dungeons!_5 has Chaos Blizzard Dragon do 82888 damage which, after 80% reduction, gives the 16578 damage that did kill me.
So it seems that padx is wrong about damage. Also, padx damage reduction calculator seems not to give the proper reduction either.
Anyway, just be careful if you plan to tackle dungeons according to padx numbers.

On another note, the PEM EVO carnival is now over and I could roll about 20 times. Some rare loots :
- Green sacred masks x2. What purpose do they have in the first place ?!
- Keeper of Gold
- Jewel of Dark
- Angelit. This one I got on my last attempt and was actually the one I was much hoping for to evolve my Yomi. I think I'm the luckiest guy when it comes to PAD. Sorry to steal your luck Cave Hermit. But you play Bloodborne, so hey !

[Aisha]

Ancient Green Sacred Masks are primarily used in a few ultimate evolutions. Considering that this is the dungeon from which they drop, you probably want to hang on to the two you have.

[szycag]

Struggling to pass Tower of Flare. It's like the game spiked in difficulty thrice over. This is my go-to team. Do I really just need to grind a bunch more?

[guigui]

I see that your team uses all colors. In my opinion, this tends to make things harder.
You'd better focus on a single, or double, colored team. Also, use a leader that has a good leader skill, which is not quite the case of your green keeper.

You could place your dragon tyrannos as leader, he will give a multiplication of 1.5x attack to all your monster that have red attribute. Then, you set all your "good" red monster as subs, and eventually complete the team with other "good" monsters, such as your dark fighter which has a good active skill.

Also, be careful when you select a friend. The leader skill of your friend will also trigger. If he, for instance, also has a Dragon Tyrannos, then your red attribute monsters will have their attack multiplied by 1.5 x 1.5, ie 2,25, which is good.
You can add me as friend, ID 318 151 325. I often use a red Odin, or Echidna that might help you if you go for a red team.

Finally, when using a mono or double colored team, you have to handle orbs correctly. This means trying to trigger each turn a match of your main color, and erase the most orbs of the colors you dont use. Turns where you dont have three orbs of your main color, you should stock orbs of that color in the bottom of the board and pray for good drops.

And did you sign in to http://www.puzzledragonx.com ? The site will help you keep track of special dungeon and know monsters.

[Geist]

This is my go-to team. Do I really just need to grind a bunch more?

Just reroll, unless you already have a good (but cost restricted) leader sitting in the box.

http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/thread ... olls.6337/
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Can farm the Thursday Mythical now (if I don't get orb trolled).
// wish I hadn't discovered the Restore Stamina button though...

Can you skill-up a card during UVO? Think Red Sonia.
Should I wait with the uvo till her skill-up rotation is back in effect?

My latest honourable mentions:

5 Mechdragon Combo Hadar; devil team (thanks Aisha for pointing that one out)
Mystic Astro Dragon, Nebradisk; just for the unique Leader skill
Takeminakate, Legend; for my Goemon team
Heracles, Legend; ran the dungeon 5 times, wanted a Titan/ Gigas but only got 5 Cupids and 2 Heracles...
Satan, Mythical; 1-stone (I almost 0-stoned it); want a 2nd one though...



Guess I still got lucky with Satan, cause I wasn't even able to reach him on successive attempts, cause of synced mobs on a low timer and messed up rows... The transition from iPad to iPhone is actually harder than I'd thought.... #clumsyfinger

[guigui]

I can see no reason why Skill Up would not work during Uevo.
When you Uevo, there is a first screen asking you if you want to actually Uevo or keep the normal path. Then there is a second screen that does the normal power up fusion, in which Skill Up should work.
Someone corrects me if I'm mistaken.

Also, if I were you, I'd wait for fruits to skill her up again, you never know.

[Necronopticous]

Can you skill-up a card during UVO? Think Red Sonia.
Should I wait with the uvo till her skill-up rotation is back in effect?

Yes, and fuck yes you should. Also wait for 2x or 2.5x skill up rate to overlap, obviously.

[Vexorg]

If a UEvo involves skill-up monsters they can give you skill-ups, although it's still the same chance as it would normally be (when I UEvo'd my Ronia I didn't get any skill-ups out of it.) In my case I probably wouldn't wait since Ronia's UEvo gets you a lot more pal points plus it also gives you an attack boost over 6 combos. Then again, I've got a team that can farm the Thursday mythical pretty effectively, so YMMV.

[Necronopticous]

If there is one thing I've learned in this game (that has saved me a ton of money) is that there is no rush!

[guigui]

So I could finally gather the material required to evolve my Yomi in Tsuku Yomi http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=989
I also had a Snow Globe Dragon Noir from last celestial gift, gave it to Yomi and had a GREAT ! Which means Yomi gained 4.5 millions XP and is now max level, nice.

I feel like I'm progressiong and would like to be able to tackle Thursday Mythical to get some Dragon Fruits. But I'm not sure I can handle it with my current box. Any of you PAD experts would take some time to look at my box and help me toward Thursday Mythical ?
https://www.padherder.com/user/guigui-ln

[guigui]

Yep, double-post man is me.

Version 7.5 is out for NA (stamina overflow, friends enhancment etc...). APK link for US version :
http://apkleecher.com/download/?dl=jp.gungho.padEN

I just downloaded and installed it, it works correctly and is just an update to the previous version.

[Geist]

Thanks for the replies guys, re: uvo skill-up, much appreciated.

V7.5 is already here and with it arrived the improved x2.5 skill-up chance...
unfortunately it doesn't do the trick for me as I am still 0/20 on misc. skill-ups...

If there is one thing I've learned in this game (that has saved me a ton of money) is that there is no rush!

let's be 'Keepers of Patience', shall we?

@guigui
A team around Rodin might be worth a try, mainly because of the colour advantage, as subs you simply pick your strongest gods (Blodin /colour disadvantage though/, Vervandi /fire sub colour/) and fire cards (Laila, Echidna) and pair-up with a suitable friend leader (e.g. Ame no Uzume, Rodin, Urd).

May the "trollmadra" have mercy with you.

[beatsgo]

For those don't know why 7.5 is an excellent update to P&D

-DAT STAMINA OVERFLOW
-Non-friend leader skills are active!~
-Monster Box is 2000
-Doubled Pal Point

[guigui]

V7.5 is already here and with it arrived the improved x2.5 skill-up chance...

What is this x2.5 skill-up chance ? I only see x2 chance as of now.

@guigui
A team around Rodin might be worth a try, mainly because of the colour advantage, as subs you simply pick your strongest gods (Blodin /colour disadvantage though/, Vervandi /fire sub colour/) and fire cards (Laila, Echidna) and pair-up with a suitable friend leader (e.g. Ame no Uzume, Rodin, Urd).

May the "trollmadra" have mercy with you.

I already tried with some Rodin team and did not pass first floor, killed by dragon fruit.
I'll give it another try : Rodin/Verdandi/Laila/Echidna/Blodin/Urd or Ronia. No idea how I can survive the last floor and deal 7 millions damage in two turns though.

For those don't know why 7.5 is an excellent update to P&D

-DAT STAMINA OVERFLOW
-Non-friend leader skills are active!~
-Monster Box is 2000
-Doubled Pal Point

Right. Non-friend leader active is the most interesting to me. At high level, it is hard to make new friends since a second leader skill is needed to complete the dungeon.

[Necronopticous]

What is this x2.5 skill-up chance ? I only see x2 chance as of now.

There was a 2.5x chance active last event, but this event is the standard 2x. Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think the 2.5x change last event was tied to the update in any way, just a limited-time thing they did for the first time, and will probably do again at some point.

[szycag]

Today I ran the Tuesday Dungeon and got the Red Keeper I needed for evo materials for Firedragon Tyrannos. I haven't tried re-running the Tower of Flare yet but I'm sure I'm in a lot better shape for it. Used a red Pengdra on it and it shot up to like level 25 too. Also been using a Red Dragon Fruit since that's the only other really good red thing I have, although I think they changed his special attack since the update because it used to be all red and purple gems.

[guigui]

Yes, it looks like you're on the good way. Has my red Odin or Echidna been of some help ?
You're lucky to have a red dragon fruit, comes from Pal Egg Machine I guess. This is a rare evolution material you'll need later, do never sell or fuse it until then.

Also, to get better monsters, you should roll the machines :
- Pal Egg Machine uses points you earn with your friends and with consecutive day login. One roll is 200 points, moderately good monsters.
- Rare Egg Machine uses Magic Stones. One roll is 5 stones, good to awesome monsters, see below for when to roll the machine.

Things to know about the magic stones, since I saw you had none in your previous screenshot :
- You get one for clearing a full dungeon, only one per dungeon. Currently, you also get one per day in your mail. Only 5 left though, be sure to connect everyday, only to get the stone. See http://www.puzzledragonx.com/ for details.
- NEVER use them to refill stamina. At your level (and at mine too, rank 124 now), it is better to wait for it to refill. No rush as Necro said.
- Sometimes use them to increase box capacity if needed.
- Use them to roll the Rare Egg Machine ONLY during Godfests. During those events, you have better chance to get a God monster. The next Godfest should arrive soon enough.

[beatsgo]

7.5 is live in the US and it's glorious D:

[guigui]

7.5 is live in the US and it's glorious D:

Didn't try the stamina overflow thing because I cant resolve to use stones to refill my bar yet.
Double and independant friend leader choice is cool though, as is the fact that non-friend's leader skill is active.

I'm pretty hyped about the Godfest starting soon, Archangel and Heroes of Three Kingdoms look like powerful cards.
Also, I just got 10 free stones from Gung-Ho for consecutive ... 100 ... days login ! I gotta stop playing this game.

Question : what does exactly Belial's active "Counter 3x damage taken with Fire for 4 turns" do ?
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=630

[szycag]

It gave me a chance to use your support today and that support attack is amazing! I was only out of stones because I was trying to use them to complete that tough stage only to get killed again. I haven't used one since and I've got five stored up from the daily emails. I'll wait for a godfest.

[Jon]

I'll wait for a godfest.

You only have to wait until tomorrow. As previously mentioned by guigui, Archdemons and Three Kingdoms Heroes incoming!

Szycag my ID is 331, 650, 356 if you want another high(er) level helper.

Edit: It would help if I cleared out a space for an invite.

[guigui]

It gave me a chance to use your support today and that support attack is amazing! I was only out of stones because I was trying to use them to complete that tough stage only to get killed again. I haven't used one since and I've got five stored up from the daily emails. I'll wait for a godfest.

Glad to have helped you.
Yep, as Jon (who has higher level than me, I know, but did not get his 10 free stones for 100 consecutive days login, did he ? ) said, Godfest starts tomorrow and lasts for two days.
Be sure to spend your stones here. Also, do not spend stones to continue in a dungeon.