Gamecube NTSC question

[wyvernshill]

Hello everyone.

I just bought an NTSC Gamecube, it should arrive in a few weeks.
It is a DOL-001 model, the one with the digital port. So if i ever have the luck to find or buy a component cable then i am already good with this model of the gamecube.
However, as everyone here and on every damn website like Ebay knows, those component cables are far too expensive for me to ever buy.

So i was wondering, the next best thing for the NTSC Gamecube is s-video right ?
I will be using the gamecube through a framemeister.
Is there an official s-video cable from nintendo or which cable do you recommend i buy ?
I also read you cannot use a european gamecube scart cable, but wouldnt a NTSC SNES scart work as well ? They have the same connectors, but .... probably not the same pinout
I have a PAL Snes scart and an NTSC Snes Scart, wil none of those work ?
Cheers for any info or links to what cable to buy.

If anyone is willing to sell a component cable for a more reasonable price, please let me know

Thanks !

[CkRtech]

So i was wondering, the next best thing for the NTSC Gamecube is s-video right ?

Yes.

Is there an official s-video cable from nintendo or which cable do you recommend i buy ?

I think first party s-video cables are pretty hard to find these days. I do not personally have a recommendation

I also read you cannot use a european gamecube scart cable, but wouldnt a NTSC SNES scart work as well ? They have the same connectors, but .... probably not the same pinout

If by SCART you mean RGB, then no. Not on the NTSC GC.

[austin532]

Here is an official Nintendo brand.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Offici ... 2c98fd0d25

Here is a Monster Cable brand which I hear is the better way to go. It must be if they generally cost more, right?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Monster-Cable-N ... 4193380a0c

[blizzz]

You could get the Monster cables for around 7 bucks some years ago. I remember a seller that had at least a dozen of them, but didn't ship to Europe.

[Einzelherz]

I have and have sold some monster s video cables and on my CRT, at least, I didn't notice a difference between them and a cheap eBay cable. Not quite the same scenario, plus my crt isn't that great, but still.

[mattbox]

I know you already purchased the GC but I just want to throw out the wii option. There's a good comparison here on the GC component vs. the Wii component. Considering the price, ~$70 for a wii vs ~$300 GC + component, they're basically the same quality.

[Lawfer]

GC component vs. the Wii component. they're basically the same quality.

LOL NO.

Go play a game that is both on Gamecube and Wii such as Resident Evil 4 and see how the gamecube version in comparison to the Wii version makes the Gamecube version look sharp and clean.

Do it like this, play a bunch of Gamecube games on Gamecube with component for like 3 weeks and nothing else, then switch to Wii games on Wii with component, the quality downgrade will be quite obvious.

[bobrocks95]

LOL NO.

Go play a game that is both on Gamecube and Wii such as Resident Evil 4 and see how the gamecube version in comparison to the Wii version makes the Gamecube version look sharp and clean.

Do it like this, play a bunch of Gamecube games on Gamecube with component for like 3 weeks and nothing else, then switch to Wii games on Wii with component, the quality downgrade will be quite obvious.

He said considering the price. As in, the Gamecube doesn't look $200+ better.

[12345]

GC component vs. the Wii component. they're basically the same quality.

LOL NO.

Go play a game that is both on Gamecube and Wii such as Resident Evil 4 and see how the gamecube version in comparison to the Wii version makes the Gamecube version look sharp and clean.

Do it like this, play a bunch of Gamecube games on Gamecube with component for like 3 weeks and nothing else, then switch to Wii games on Wii with component, the quality downgrade will be quite obvious.

Sry but this was proven to be wrong in several threads on this forum. The quality downgrade is actually very, very minimal.

[mattbox]

LOL NO.

Go play a game that is both on Gamecube and Wii such as Resident Evil 4 and see how the gamecube version in comparison to the Wii version makes the Gamecube version look sharp and clean.

Do it like this, play a bunch of Gamecube games on Gamecube with component for like 3 weeks and nothing else, then switch to Wii games on Wii with component, the quality downgrade will be quite obvious.

I was comparing GC component vs. Wii component both playing GC games. I don't think it's a fair comparison if you're not using the exact same version of a game. Either way, I still think it's a valid option if your only other choices are GC S-video or a $200 cable.

[Josh128]

I have both, and without comparing the two side by side and in close up pictures, I didnt even believe there was a difference. It was only after arguing with several members here and posting several close up photo tests ,trying several different games that I could see there was indeed a slight difference.

I posted several very good comparison shots of Soul Calibur 2 and FZero GX on GC vs. Wii on the F4500 plasma thread-- the difference is very hard to see in the pictures, and indeed hard to see in person, but yes, the GC output is sharper-- but not by a very significant amount. Def not $200 worth, lol.

[wyvernshill]

The reason i bought the gamecube is mostly for nostalgia. (Man i can't wait for it to get delivered)
It's a bit weird, when i was younger i found the gamecube childish and all its games for little children, surely the PS2 with its many RPG's was far better ...

Nowadays i realize i missed a lot of good games because of that attitude, only the realization came 15 or so years too late.

Yes i could use a wii, but to me i like to own a genuine gamecube (plus i will be looking for a gameboy player as well).
I might be able to buy a component cable later (someone is willing to sell me one for 150 €, still far too much, but i'll consider it once my paycheck comes in).

Would i want to play wii games, yes definitely, but for that i can buy a wiiU.
It's strange but to me the wii and wiiU feel like the same thing. I know it isn't but ... like i said it's weird and i cannot explain it.

I'll see how well i will like the gamecube and if the image is really bad i might consider a first generation wii.

Thanks already for the many replies.

[CulDad78]

There are (2) cables - one is component one is HD, be sure to get the right one - the latter requires a TV w/D-Terminal.

[Fudoh]

the latter requires a TV w/D-Terminal.

or a $5 breakout adapter from D-Terminal to RCA. The signal is the same.

[bobrocks95]

They'll both cost you your first-born, so evaluate how much of a Gamecube/video quality buff you are before making that unholy pact.

[kamiboy]

the latter requires a TV w/D-Terminal.

or a $5 breakout adapter from D-Terminal to RCA. The signal is the same.

$5, where? I just bought one for four times that.

[Fudoh]

The streets of Tokyo I guess.... Na, sorry, I just meant cheap - didn't check actual prices. Since nobody uses D-Terminal outside of Japan I guess prices are quite inflated.

[SGGG2]

The component cables been cloned, it's only a matter of time until someone starts selling copies. http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51450

[Einzelherz]

Except that no one but me (it seems) is interested in the analog version. If I had better than neolithic understanding of all that was involved I'd be making and selling a NESRGB equivalent.

[FBX]

The streets of Tokyo I guess.... Na, sorry, I just meant cheap - didn't check actual prices. Since nobody uses D-Terminal outside of Japan I guess prices are quite inflated.

Cheapest I saw was Solaris in Japan for $20. They sent me one by mistake, so I got it for free after they sent me the correct cable I asked for.

[LEGENOARYNINLIA]

Would i want to play wii games, yes definitely, but for that i can buy a wiiU.
It's strange but to me the wii and wiiU feel like the same thing. I know it isn't but ... like i said it's weird and i cannot explain it.

Sounds like you will regret this 15 years later...

[Grimakis]

If you are contemplating getting an S-Video cable for the Gamecube, note that there are two varieties(that I know of) that Nintendo made.

One type is very standard, with S-Video and L/R Audio all coming from the A/V Out plug, three separate wires running together, side-by-side, sort of like a ribbon cable. These are very similar to the Composite cables.

The second type, which is far less common, has a single and much thicker cord running from the A/V out. the cord eventually comes to a small box, where it breaks out to S-Video and L/R audio. Once thing to note is the S-Video cable is much thicker on this one. I'm not sure if that means there is more shielding, or simply more insulation. I also couldn't tell you if it is higher quality that the other S-Video cables. I recently got this cable, and I was very surprised as I hadn't seen one like it before.

Also, I'm not sure which cables were sold along the SNES, N64, or GCN. However all cables should work interchangeably with NTSC consoles.

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