HEX TCG: MTG for People Who Aren't Billionaires

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HEX TCG: MTG for People Who Aren't Billionaires

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You might remember this one from the kickblaster that pulled in 2 millionty dollars promising a trading card game MMO. Hasbro sued them recently for being better than the digital products they're offering (which isn't really much of an accomplishment - anyone with any experience with Magic Online knows it was a miserable beast that generally got worse every time it was scrapped and rebuilt completely.)

The first, tiny, bit of PvE, the arena, came out this week. It's just a series of boss fights, where you can win some cards and equipment (equipment modifies the cards in your deck. For example, your little wizard dude could spawn two pet owls instead of one. Or your giant Reaper Robot can bring things back from the dead under your control.). I'm kind of obsessed with it currently.

The PvE portion of the game is intended to be free to play, while PvP costs the boosters and entry fee. Boosters are two bux, to undercut MTG of course. The free to play currency, gold, actually has been holding up the past week - the system is designed so that when you open a booster, if you want to maximize your gains, you need some gold. It's possible to exploit yourself in the Arena mines for 20 pence an hour and play draft once a week.

I really like the whimsical nature of the thing, it has a sense of fun and humor MTG just doesn't have. The caveman riding a dinosaur that can play more dinosaurs for you, the goofy killer robots, the robot dinosaurs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you. Where else do you get to see such wonderful uplifting art such as:

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Ehh yeah. Just saying you should maybe give this one a try if you suffer from OCD and are into turning cards sideways. I strongly advocate to not start with the rabbit deck if you do.
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Im sorry Bryan I didnt mean to kill the topic 3:<
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No no no, it's not you. It is I who is social poison. I kill every topic on my own, srs!

This game isn't really ready for prime time in my opinion, since they don't have the RPG systems or the hundreds of PvE cards to make the free to play part of the game fun.

Making any real progress currently reminds me of that youtube video of Kripparrian "playing" the Diablo 3 auction house for 3 minutes.
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There should be an online TCG game that's better than MTGO, which is the most outdated piece of crap out there.

I hear good things about Blizzard's Hearthstone... Would that be it?

I like MTG, I've played it for a long while. The financial aspect of it disgusts me, to be honest. Lots of people only in the game to flip cards and treat them like stock. This is a cancer that will kill the game in the long run. It's not going to be long before the Chinese print very convincing fakes...
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Hearthstone's a fun and very nicely polished casual game especially if you've never played a TCG/CCG before, but its relative simplicity seems to disappoint many M:TG fans. If you're looking for an easily approachable card game that you can play casually but still has a reasonable amount of depth, Hearthstone's probably the best you can ask for, but by design it's not as complex as M:TG (which I actually like, but I know plenty of people don't).
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Yeah, Hearthstone isn't bad really, though it can take a little while to build up a respectable deck at the beginning.

One of the things I like about it is, being a fully PC-based game, allows it to have some interesting mechanics that would be difficult to enforce or implement in a more traditional TCG, for example, having certain cards randomly summon other cards or creatures you may not necessarily have, or having cards that effect the length of time you have to take a turn.
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Funnily enough, I just joined Hearthstone a week ago. It does scratch that trading card game itch, but it also makes me wish I could play actual Magic the gathering.

Thing is, I don't have a car so I can't head to the local comic shop, and I gotta save my cash for vidya.
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Never really got past the first day of my Hearthstone beta experience. It just kind of annoyed me a bit and came across a bit superficial. And I'm someone who utterly loathes MTG's resource system; that magical moment where you just win or lose 20% of your games because of mana draws. Always liked how they won't let you talk to other players: "People who play Blizzard games are terrible! Don't talk to them."

The Pokemon TCG will actually give you (non-tradable) assets for logging in daily, so you don't have to grind mindless PvE to make a little progress.

Honestly the worst thing I can say about the genre is the booster opening experience: opening a chest with random stuff inside should be fun as hell. But the games are set up so that, no, it's not. You have to sell the booster or use it in a 2 hour long tournament that may or may not start when you'd like it to. Then you just buy the cards you want.

Boo.
The financial aspect of it disgusts me, to be honest.
I know that feel. Guys hovering the Hex auction hall, desperate for cards or foul flippers, incrementing one single currency unit at a time like the most passive aggressive dick in the universe. Spending hours over something worth a couple cents.

At least in MTGO, you can get some commons from hand-out bots and eschew raw exploitative capitalism by playing pauper.

Seeing things like today's news about "free alternate art card for creepy furries for logging in in the next 10 days" and then reading that the actual qualia necessary is: spend some platinum and boosters on a tournament...

I actually do have the assets to do it if I really wanted to from not paying money, and I know they have to limit supply if the cards are tradable, but still it feels kind of wretched.
drunkninja24 wrote:One of the things I like about it is, being a fully PC-based game, allows it to have some interesting mechanics that would be difficult to enforce or implement in a more traditional TCG
Yeah, that's one thing I like about Hex. Cards are being permanently modified all the time always. "Draw cards off the top of an opponent's deck. It has blood threshold now!" is such a black philosophy of card advantage - you don't have another thought, you steal them from someone else. And cards are created mid match all the time as well - tokens and graveyards interact together perfectly fine.

That doesn't even get into pets, or arbitrarily complex transformation chains. They can make dudes that digivolve with multiple paths to any depth (though they only have triple-sided transform dudes so far. The game's two sets in, gotta do the basics first.)

The ever popular Storm Cloud is a decent representation of something that would take too much text:

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The stormlings being flying 2 mana (it matters for stuff like Inspire) 1/1's with a self sacrifice effect: Draw a card, deal 2 damage to tapped troop, or tap a troop.

If you have a deck dedicated to gaining charges and have say a pyromancer

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It will make an absolutely enormous amount of threat for a turn 2 play and some time invested.
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I've never been into mmos but maybe i might give hex a try.

As far as mtgo goes, it has so much potential to be good, and i know it wouldnt really cost wizards/hasbro that much money. Maybe they don't want to make the online version better because it will eat into their profits they make with the physical game? I still play mtgo because being able to play a game of magic without having to leave my house, at any hour during the day or being able to play older draft formats like ravnica, or urza, or something crazy like vintage masters. It is also a good place to test out any new decks you want before you play them on paper to get an idea of how good it is.
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