Gothic wa Mahou Otome: Sassato Keiyaku Shinasai!(CAVE ios...

[Cagar]

To be clear there are 16 tweets about it and we still don't know the genre of the game?

My Japanese is dismal, but the new staff interviews on the game page appear to be exclusively focused on their personal shmup backgrounds and their thoughts on the future of the genre. They would seem out of place if this game weren't a shmup, or at the very least had elements of one.

Deathsmiles shmup RPG and i'm more than happy enough.

[iconoclast]

Seems like a lot more info has been added to the page as well as images on their dedicated twitter page: https://twitter.com/mahouotome_info

Looks like there's going to be a Wasshoi! event featuring DOJ at Tokaigi.

http://tokaigi.jp/2015/event/index2.html

I saw this linked in a stream the other day but I wasn't sure if that's what it would be. It looks like they're going to be playing Darius Gaiden, Daioujou (WL?), Crimzon Clover, and Tetris TGM3.

[S_Fang]

To be clear there are 16 tweets about it and we still don't know the genre of the game?

My Japanese is dismal, but the new staff interviews on the game page appear to be exclusively focused on their personal shmup backgrounds and their thoughts on the future of the genre. They would seem out of place if this game weren't a shmup, or at the very least had elements of one.

Did they say something important or relevant about it? I'm asking this because there's a thread about Itagaki's statement about shmups in general, so having different insights from other people of the industry can be an interesting experience.

Looks like there's going to be a Wasshoi! event featuring DOJ at Tokaigi.

http://tokaigi.jp/2015/event/index2.html

I saw this linked in a stream the other day but I wasn't sure if that's what it would be. It looks like they're going to be playing Darius Gaiden, Daioujou (WL?), Crimzon Clover, and Tetris TGM3.

Who are the guests? Developers or Superplay's players?

[Cata]

Yea honestly I'd be really interested in hearing what they are saying. My Japanese is alright but theres too much kanji that I'm not familiar with

[NTSC-J]

Who are the guests? Developers or Superplay's players?

Darius Gaiden Extra
2P side
Player: Yamada Taro
Commentary: Mame Daifuku

DOJ (looks like WL)
B-E
Player: fufufu
Commentary: Clover-TAC

Crimzon Clover
Unlimited mode, Type Z
Player: ISO
Commentary: SOGO

[chempop]

I might have found a new avatar...

[Cata]

New interview is up on the page. Anyone able to properly translate this so we can definitely tell whats going on?

"http://www.cave.co.jp/sp/mahouotome/

Ikeda interview : (google translate)

About a month left until "Gothic magic maiden" delivery. Now state of mind?

Finally, I feel it was ... that wearing follow up here. From those that had been produced in the beginning, since repeated a variety of trial and error through the twists and turns, and I wonder able have to really complete honestly? It was every day to ask myself with.
"Don ★ patching" and I to some extent because had a hard time had been assumed even, but was again keenly aware of the difficulty of that to entertain the shooting in today of "basic play free".

"Gothic magic girl" is, so far Cave title and here is different of! Where is the place me?

As I wrote in the previous answer, full-fledged shooting in "Basic Play Free", I just called.
That the game in the smartphone, or a game of balance and design that takes into account the lifestyle of the status quo, was a stage volume big point well as in order to play continuously. Also, how do I fight on an equal footing while filling the technology gap between the shooting user this time? Also I have the challenge of things like.

Titled "Gothic magic maiden", do you think what really?

In Rashiku very Cave, and I think that it is good. Although the initial candidate proposal there was more usually ish also of, "but I say, Cave Do not? What Te say" to the president to become a story like, at length whether that say "may", "There" I've or dispute with whether Toka place strange good is, and now finally good shape.

Future, do you think the shooter will happen?

I think the company that you can release has also been a limited number in the business scene to, because such as arcade and consumers also have become pretty tough market, and I think that small things To still follow state, such as going to be released.
Even Cave, but has become long release intervals of shooting itself than before, and Domo change the appearance to match the trends and user's lifestyle of that time, only soul in the roots was going to continue to put out without changing I am intentionally thinking.
That's what, now are coming out also flows, such as those developed in the arcade from smartphone because, if such a deployment is possible in the future! I think. In my, arcade because star even now (laughs).

"Korezo Cave" What "Korezo shooting", do you think what is it?

When two because as Neta pretend would respond collectively as "Korezo Cave shooting", if (ride hot &&) CAVE_SHT; It is feeling like a.
As a side that is produced, are all enemies of the placement and attack rhythm. Since passively play time of play early, here how Norre Te and (put are) familiar become comfortably? Then, when it gradually began to actively playing to understand the game, how hot? To convey the minutes only of return accompanied by risk in stages, and I think that it is a Cave shooter what led to more hot situations.

At the end. I want to enjoy a place like this game! Please tell me like a part.
Might perhaps be hesitate for a variety of reasons such as "because smartphone", "because social game-ish", "! Even though smartphone" to reverse shooting can be, such as said to be "to ish social games!" it was and you thought.
Because I think that arcade and consumers of until now and has become or different taste, try by all means to touch once. And, also changed the device and how to play, I hope, if I feel the Cave soul underlying."

[-S.L-]

If it's a shmup, who cares anyway ?

Android & iOS ?

No thank you.

[Cata]

If it's a shmup, who cares anyway ?

Android & iOS ?

No thank you.

I'm more interested in Ikedas answers to some of the questions about the future of the arcade scene / where Cave is going. Who knows, maybe this game will get a legit PC/Steam port eventually...

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

I don't think we will ever see games designed for phones get ported to Steam because they will be designed for being difficult even with analog finger movements so move that to digital and you won't be able to play it. When the opposite happens you end up clearing games on your first try. Then there is also all the other elements that phone games use these days that would have to be stripped. You might as well start fresh.

[Shepardus]

Screenshots have been posted of what appears to be a shmup of some sort.

Images taken from the shmup.com forum (they're also on the website for this game but I can't grab the image URLs on my phone):





Anyone here able to read what the text on the images says?

[S_Fang]

It slightly remind me of Bug Princess Duel, except with CAVE directly behind it and with quality (not sure about it, right now).

@Muchi Muchi Pork: I really hope they find a software house willing enough to port some of their games on PC, even if its just a straight console-to-PC port. But good luck finding someone like that in Japan, unless they are big companies (e.g. Taito; Capcom; Konami; Bandai Namco; ecc.)

[Cata]

Wow it definitely looks pretty high-quality. Will definitely have to check it out once its available

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

@Muchi Muchi Pork: I really hope they find a software house willing enough to port some of their games on PC, even if its just a straight console-to-PC port. But good luck finding someone like that in Japan, unless they are big companies (e.g. Taito; Capcom; Konami; Bandai Namco; ecc.)

Forgive me if I'm wrong but the X360 is close enough to a PC to where Cave could do it themselves with little effort if they wanted to? They obviously don't, at least not right now.

I hope there isn't too much of an RPG element to this game or there's going to be about as many of us here playing it as Don*Paccin. Not because the RPG element is there, but because you have to drudge through learning it while not understanding Japanese. There's no way this is going to be in English. I even made handholding video tutorials for Don*P and still barely got anyone playing it. I don't have that kind of free time anymore for this one, though I'm sure someone will do a basic translation post, we'll see.

I think it will always seem silly to see Cave put this type of effort into a "99 cent phone game" when it looks like it could be something amazing that sort of deserves its own arcade board. I doubt we will get used to that.

Looks more like Galuda than Deathsmiles.

[CloudyMusic]

Some sort of time attack mechanic? I see "85 seconds left," "57 seconds left" in a couple of those screenshots.

That actually wouldn't be a terrible idea for a phone game; long stages aren't particularly well-suited for use cases where you can only play for a couple minutes.

[S_Fang]

Forgive me if I'm wrong but the X360 is close enough to a PC to where Cave could do it themselves with little effort if they wanted to? They obviously don't, at least not right now.

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC, although not too powerful to the point of making the programming almost impossible like the PS3. But even if they could do that by optimizing the game to the recent generations of PC, very few people in Japan would buy them as they're still sceptical about PC gaming, as well in the west despite the Crimzon Clover's impact and the shmups' niche.

I think it will always seem silly to see Cave put this type of effort into a "99 cent phone game" when it looks like it could be something amazing that sort of deserves its own arcade board. I doubt we will get used to that.

For their budget, is the least they could do, unless they make a sinergy with another team and make a title for PC or a "5-6 bucks phone game".
They could do like what Falcom did: release the games on PC or the most affordable system/console to develop with, then make a port for console or the arcade when there's the budget to do so. Although, one thing is making RPGs, the other is making shmups.
Nevertheless, someday they'll pull something much more bigger than phone games (if they can).

[Blackbird]

Kinda of looks like they are going to explore the "shooting game with dating sim elements" that they experimented with a little in Progear some more.

[Pretas]

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC

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[system11]

It's a cardboard box collection simulator.

For an in-app purchase can I get one without the AMI logo?

[Strikers1945guy]

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC

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The 360 was inferior to PCs the second it was released, as all video game consoles are.

[Cagar]

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC

The 360 was inferior to PCs the second it was released, as all video game consoles are.

You guys don't know much about technology, right?
This is really the kind of stuff you can only read on the good ol' shmups forum.

[S_Fang]

Kinda of looks like they are going to explore the "shooting game with dating sim elements" that they experimented with a little in Progear some more.

That looked like more a grade system disguised as a relationship meter to me, honestly.

[Despatche]

progear is just a grade system disguised as a cutesy relationship meter. there used to be a guide as to how the grading worked, i think one bar is based on number of powerups/not dying.

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC

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The 360 was inferior to PCs the second it was released, as all video game consoles are.

uhhh... no. up until the mid-'90s, computers were not really made for gaming and so they never really did a good job of it. even then, the original xbox was a great computer (it was specifically meant to be), and the 360 and the ps3 were more powerful than any computer that had been released at the time (the ps3 more so). as someone had to remind me just a few hours ago, sega's lindbergh arcade hardware was supposed to be 360-based like the chihiro was xbox-based, but they actually decided to go with reasonable pc parts of the time because the 360 used a bunch of custom stuff that would be too expensive (as taito made so irritatingly clear).

i know you want to be all "pc master race", but you miss the point of consoles and pcs. the whole point of a pc is that you can upgrade it, while the whole point of a console is that you can't. it's not even remotely fair to compare them because of this. even today, developing and providing support for pc with its wide range of possible environments is super fucking annoying, and that will probably never change.

edit: exactly shepardus. pretty much any pc game in 2005, 2006, or even 2007 is not going to require such crazy specs. like now we have the fucking titan gpu lol, noone's really going to take that thing seriously yet

[Shepardus]

They may have been more powerful than any PC you could get for the price at the time, but I'm pretty sure it was possible to build a more powerful gaming PC if you were willing to shell out the money for whatever the top-of-the-line CPU and GPU were at the time, and more than the 512MB of RAM the Xbox 360 has. It'd cost way more than a console and chances are the games you run on it wouldn't be specifically optimized for your setup, but technically it'd be more powerful.

[Special World]

Would love to see a western release of this. I'm still sore about Donpacchin.

[BPzeBanshee]

All this talk of Deathsmiles, phone/xbawks/etc powers, RPG mechanics, PC ports.....Am I the only one that's noticed the lack of a certain important-for-STGs thing in those screenshots?

You know, that word that's like mullets but spelt with a 'B'?

[Muchi Muchi Spork]

That's the exact same thing people said when the first DonP info came out and it ended up being awesome, other than the no English part.

[Shepardus]

All this talk of Deathsmiles, phone/xbawks/etc powers, RPG mechanics, PC ports.....Am I the only one that's noticed the lack of a certain important-for-STGs thing in those screenshots?

You know, that word that's like mullets but spelt with a 'B'?

Someone commented the same thing on the French forum. I'm just assuming/hoping that they didn't put in the bullets in their screenshots to avoid scaring people away and to show off their background visuals a bit more.

[Vetus]

@Muchi Muchi Pork: I really hope they find a software house willing enough to port some of their games on PC, even if its just a straight console-to-PC port. But good luck finding someone like that in Japan, unless they are big companies (e.g. Taito; Capcom; Konami; Bandai Namco; ecc.)

Taito isn't as big as they used to. Also they stopped making console games and focus on smartphone games (mainly iOS), just like many other japanese games (SNK Playmore is another victim of this trend with only releasing few, old games on Steam once in a while).

[DestroyTheCore]

I think the X360 is more powerful than a PC

The 360 was inferior to PCs the second it was released, as all video game consoles are.

You guys don't know much about technology, right?
This is really the kind of stuff you can only read on the good ol' shmups forum.

Underpowered SH3 boards for more lag are what technology is all about.