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Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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Hello everyone,

I'm a bit skeptical about my new RGB setup. I bought the official SFC JP21 wired scart cable, a PVM-1341 and I'm looking into buying a female JP21 wired scart to BNC adapter and a male scart to BNC adapter to use the passthrough of the PVM to connect to the Framemeister then to the capture card. My main concern is that the male scart to BNC adapter is an Euroscart. Will I be fine with connecting my SFC scart cable to the JP21 wired scart to BNC adapter and using the passthrough of the PVM to connect to the Framemeister then to the capture card via a male Euroscart scart to BNC adapter despite them being wired differently?

Here are the adapters I'm gonna use:

JP21 wired female scart to BNC adapter http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/fema ... itors.html

Euroscart wired male scart to BNC adapter http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/male ... cable.html

And the adapter for the Framemeister isn't available on eBay right now so I can't link it. I already have it though, it's the Euroscart adapter from Retro_Console_Accessories with sync booster

EDIT: I reconsidered my setup and did some changes since the male scart to BNC is out of stock. The seller told me it's gonna take some time for it to be restocked again and the one I found on eBay doesn't work on the Framemeister. I wrote the new setup in my 3rd post
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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Euro SCART pinout system cable -> Euro SCART to BNC -> PVM -> BNC to JP21 -> JP21 to Framemeister? Sounds good to me. Only things that come to mind are that the individual cables adapters should be labeled with their pinout types (EURO or JP21) to avoid mixups; Fudoh has mentioned the direction matters; and also it's possible there could be some quality difference with the passthrough versus using a switch / matrix...unfortunately I don't think your cables will allow you to test this easily due to the adapter cable. There probably isn't any issue though.
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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Ed Oscuro wrote:Euro SCART pinout system cable -> Euro SCART to BNC -> PVM -> BNC to JP21 -> JP21 to Framemeister? Sounds good to me. Only things that come to mind are that the individual cables adapters should be labeled with their pinout types (EURO or JP21) to avoid mixups; Fudoh has mentioned the direction matters; and also it's possible there could be some quality difference with the passthrough versus using a switch / matrix...unfortunately I don't think your cables will allow you to test this easily due to the adapter cable. There probably isn't any issue though.
It's the opposite actually. Super Famicom scart cable (JP21) -> JP21 scart to BNC -> PVM -> BNC to Euroscart -> Euroscart to Framemeister. Also I know someone who tried the RGB passthrough of his PVM and it worked fine for him. I hope it does for me too because scart splitters/amplifiers are a bit expensive
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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Ah, I misread that because the Micomsoft devices use JP21. It's usually the other way around, with system outputs to a PVM often in Euro SCART and Micomsoft device connections wired for RGB21. With the 8-pin miniature connector the Framemeister uses, and a new adapter wired specifically for that, I don't see how it makes a difference.

The one thing I will say is that you might want to be cautious with any old stock SFC RGB cables, because they're quite old and there's reports of the caps going bad on them by now. It's an easy fix if you have equipment though. Any of these cables will be a good chunk of change so if you've already got them, there's no need to shake things up now. It would have been nice to have the same pinout into and out of the PVM, so you could do a direct comparision of the video quality before and after the passthrough, but it sounds like it's not a problem.
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I'm going to pop on my mod's hat and move this to the hardware section. I think doing so will actually help... you should find some extra help there!
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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you may have an issue with that euro scart adapter for the xrgb mini. If its not one that has the piggyback power cable to the xrgb mini, its not going to work. You will not pass voltage through the pvm to the pin on the sync stripper if its one that requires the console to power it.

why not just get another bnc to jp21 and use the jp21 to mini din cable that came with framemeister instead of mixing formats?
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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mickcris wrote:you may have an issue with that euro scart adapter for the xrgb mini. If its not one that has the piggyback power cable to the xrgb mini, its not going to work. You will not pass voltage through the pvm to the pin on the sync stripper if its one that requires the console to power it.

why not just get another bnc to jp21 and use the jp21 to mini din cable that came with framemeister instead of mixing formats?
I actually made some changes just now. I will be using the Keene amplifier with 2 of these cables http://www.ebay.com/itm/351202576075?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT one goes from an output to http://www.ebay.com/itm/191462293268?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT through http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/euro ... erter.html and one goes from another output to the Framemeister then to Elgato Game Capture HD via another one of those Euroscart to JP21 adapters (will follow what you said and use the JP21 adapter for the Framemeister) and the SFC scart cable will go to a JP21 to Euroscart adapter then to the input of the Keene amplifier.

So basically, SFC scart cable > JP21 to Euroscart > Keene input > Male to male scart 1 > Keene output 1 > Male to male scart 1 > Euroscart to JP21 > JP21 to BNC > Male to male scart 2 > Keene output 2 > Male to male scart 2 > Euroscart to JP21 > Framemeister

I hope this setup works. I'm no longer using the PVM's passthrough in this setup. Thanks in advance
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Re: Euroscart and JP21 Setup

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Update: My setup arrived and everything worked perfectly! Thanks for the help all!
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