Suicide Bullets: Anti Sealed Game Defence Force

[BIL]

PCE-CD games are old enough that many are succumbing to disc rot at this point. Even if they've remained sealed.

Amazing FACTZ estebang, never fail to enlighten.

Do you have a source for this mass decaying PC Engine disc rot drama perchance?

I'm all ears. My Saturn collection was supposed to go up in smoke a couple years back according to another of our local experts. My Mega CD and PCE stuff must be practically undead.

To say nothing of FAMICOM GAMES BECOMING UNBOOTABLE ZOMG.

Stay away folks! More games for me to buy, lololol.

[drauch]

Stay away folks! More games for me to buy, lololol.

I'd say at this point I have over 4,000+ manufactured media CDs/DVDs (not counting DVD-Rs,) and I've experienced two cases of manufacture error and two cases of disc rot. Both cases of disc rot were my own fault, which was the result of CDs left in the car in a tight binder, all weather for multiple years with no room to breathe.

If you look around there's tons of fear mongering and panic amongst game collectors for this sort of thing. There is no doubt that it happens, and can happen in adverse conditions or due to manufacturing error, but when it does happen due to longevity you'll be wearing diapers in a rest home or dead. Or unless you store your collection in a rain forest or a glass dumpster.

[BIL]

NAWWW THEY MEGABYTES BE LIKE MOULDEH CHEEZE I TELLS YA Anyone feel like sellin' up? ^_~ ^o^

I used to search actively for cases of common consoles' discs spontaneously dying on people, never found any. To say nothing of mask ROMs. Eh. It'll be fun to see who goes senile and shits the bed first, me or my stuff.

Magnetic media, now that shit be scary

[drauch]

Yeah, now if we're talking floppies, and even unfortunately, Famicom Disc System floppies, that is something a little more concerning and prevalent now and in upcoming years.

[KindGrind]

NAWWW THEY MEGABYTES BE LIKE MOULDEH CHEEZE I TELLS YA Anyone feel like sellin' up? ^_~ ^o^

I used to search actively for cases of common consoles' discs spontaneously dying on people, never found any. To say nothing of mask ROMs. Eh. It'll be fun to see who goes senile and shits the bed first, me or my stuff.

Magnetic media, now that shit be scary

What about a worldwide EMP (from the orbital station), frying all the circuit boards in the world, forever and ever? Who would be laughing then? Har har!

[BIL]

Pffft, the real value's in the paper anyway. ^_~

Minty Recca boxes and Hyper Duel spines would make pretty good kindling from what I can tell. Good stock!

[BIL]

Where is bangbang-kun? Did he reincarnate yet? I'm here to report that my dozens of bought-new and rapaciously defiled PCE-CD games have been working without a hitch. Much as with my trenchant reporting on the lastability of Tengen MD carts, I will keep farm informed...

[Koa Zo]

Darn. Earlier this evening I split the cellophane on both Zaxxon's Motherbase 2000 and Tempo.
For shame I didn't know about the ASGDF at the time. I would've made a sacrificial video, with an epilogue featuring the accidental sitting on of the Tempo box.

[MintyTheCat]

One of the scary things I have noticed amongst people kind of getting into a collection has been in Berlin where I have seen people who have been influenced by these nutty trends on Youtube to invest in a collection for profit.

They cannot afford the top dollar prices for sealed games or high end titles so they spend all their money on games in the shittiest condition and then hold them up as relics - and be serious about it.

What's more they all seem to be collecting PAL titles - who gives a shit about PAL?
Everyone I know in the UK collects Japanese titles only as they look a lot better and are usually the original release.

We have this type of idiot activity:

http://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anze ... 4-227-3931

€70 for Zero Wing - unreal.
and he reckons it is in "top condition"

One chap whom I met in Berlin literally had a whole room (more like a warehouse) of games in poor, falling apart and not worth anything really in terms of money condition and he thought he was sitting on a fortune. What's more he would risk it all by spending the rent money, food money, etc. and spent near his entire time on EBay and getting involved in all manner of nutty schemes to some how secure games - which he did not play. The guy looked ill to me.

I have to see this as being some kind of mental illness.

The thing is he was shit at playing games and had virtually no insight into the games that he owned.
I delighted in beating him and all his mates on Bomberman when I met them.
I know substantially more about the games in terms of history (I grew up in the late 80s and early 90s when the 16-bit revolution changed things big time) and I know a lot more about how these games work at the technical level than any of these collectors I also know about the history of these platforms.

I think that the fun has been displaced by wanton greed tinged ignorance.

I have kept all of my collection in good condition (always have looked after things even as a kid) and had years of fun playing my games.
I have a few titles now that are worth a bit and I have some that I bought years ago that I have either got twice (I have three copies of R-Type on the PCE that just ended up in the collection most likely through trades over the years ) but to sit and be impressed by looking at the games - be that in new condition or shitty, dog eaten condition makes no sense to me and is a sad sign of the times.

It was a lot more fun without all these trends and pressures from Youtube and online communities I feel when games were about playing games instead of making money out of dickheads.

[BIL]

I generally don't mind what anyone does in this hobby, besides counterfeiters. Ideally they'd just die - quick (no hard feelings, you see - as with silverfish and damp it's about neutralisation, not retribution!). Con artists get skullfucked into aerosol pls.

As for the PAL fullset collectors, etc... I do laugh/cringe, but I know we're ultimately all a bit nuts. I share your distaste for the SFII clone craze of the mid-90s, but a fighter aficionado might well think me retarded with my reams of STGs and action/platformers. Despite my being capable and happy to write a short essay on why each and every one is there! (or not there! that's the more important thing imo).

As long as a collection's about taste and selection, I can dig it. Can be a tiny bookshelf or an aircraft carrier's worth of stuff, as long as it's someone's hobbyist affection. I'm sure some diehard Saturn archivists really do love having Eyeful Home around, and I'm glad for them. Hell of a lot worse things to be into. As for me I infiltrate, grab my elite picks, then get the fuck out like John McClane diving from an exploding skyscraper.

Those without passion, driven only by base compulsion, though... it must hurt some of the poor souls bustin' triple digits on interactive junk mail. I wonder if they wake up the next day feeling a little sore and, dare I say... EYEFUL BONED.

Anyone damaging themselves via their hobby is most definitely doin it wrong, absolutely. This kind of hobby at least. It's not extreme sports or hardcore supersex FFS!

[mamboFoxtrot]

What's more they all seem to be collecting PAL titles - who gives a shit about PAL?

"Call me silly, but just you wait. In 15 years, the unwashed masses will finally realize that 50HZ speed was the way these games were MEANT to be played! And when everyone begins to scramble for PAL carts, who's gonna have the goods?
Yeah, that's right: MEEEEE!!

CHA

CHING

MOTHAFUCKAAAAAA!!!!"

[Strikers1945guy]

After years and years of collecting my console stuff is all but gone. I saved maybe 50 titles I felt were really the best the few systems I have had to offer, and dumped the rest. I've never been happier.

If someone is into collecting literally for the sake of being able to gaze at their shelves stocked full of games they will never play and reach sexual climax I just don't get it. Im in house construction and we built a house for a guy who collected Harley Davidson motorcycles. He had some beauties but he had many that he purchased brand new and literally never drove them, they were collectors items to him. Works of art. Sad to see such beautiful machines never get the chance to hit the open road.

Do these people plan on being buried with all of their collections like the Egyptian pharaohs or what? Regardless of your collections size if you play the stuff then that's awesome! Having shelves full of essentially wasted space makes me cringe but hey to each their own, I was somewhat guilty of that back in the day.

Collecting sealed games and then putting them in protective selophane sleeves, sticking them on a shelf, taking a picture, then realizing you can NEVER even open the damn thing for fear it will be devalued is well... ludicrous.

I even take my arcade artwork and display it all. If it gets sunfaded over the years then oh well it served it's purpose.