I got Chaos Feild Expanded for Christmas and........

MichiyoNoShiroIV · Post by **MichiyoNoShiroIV** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:29 am

I have no idea what I'm doing this is unlike any Shmup I've played it's just boss battles.

So like what's what here?

Monkey_Man · Post by **Monkey_Man** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:35 am

I actually bought it about an hour ago and just played it a minute ago, which is why I'm logging into here for the first time in four months.

Warning Forever had just boss battles too.

MichiyoNoShiroIV · Post by **MichiyoNoShiroIV** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:40 am

At least in Warning Forever I knew what I was doing

add Carrier Airblade to the boss battle only catagory

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:45 am

I'll try to cover the basics in a nutshell...

First off, yes, the game's pretty much all bosses; the challenge is to keep a "chain" going long enough to make sure they're worth lots of points when you blast 'em (more on that later). Aside from your "regular" shot, you've got your sword, which can damage enemies, but is mainly used to cancel bullets (just about everything except purple-colored bullets can be canceled). The "switch" button switches you between "Order Field" and "Chaos Field" (there's an indicator of which you're in in the upper right corner of the screen) and makes you invincible for a few moments, but can only be used once every few seconds. While in "order," enemies shoot less stuff at you, and give up more items to charge your special attack meter (to be explained in a sec), but your shots are also less powerful. In "chaos," your shots are more powerful, but the enemy shoots more stuff and gives up fewer items, plus one or two more things to follow.

Your other attacks use up one section of the "special attack" meter each time they're used: one is the "lock-on," which spreads out in a certain area (differs with each ship), and (obviously) locks on to stuff and fires homing lasers at it: while in "order field," you can only lock on to enemies and damage them, but in "chaos field," you lock on to (non-purple) bullets, which can both cancel them out and damage enemies nearby. The last attack in the "shield" (forget the exact name, that's what I'll call it

), which sends out one or more objects (again, depending on the ship you use) which will block (non-purple) bullets for a few seconds, it works the same way in both "order" and "chaos."

This leads to "chaining," the main way to score lots o' points: when you either destroy an enemy or cancel out a bullet with either your lock-on or shield attack, a "hit" counter on the right side of the screen will begin increasing; after a short time it'll vanish if you don't destroy or cancel something again. The "hit" number multiplies the amount of points you get for destroying a boss or boss part; you want to keep on building it up for as long as you can without losing it. To do this you'll have to balance the amount of time you spend in "order" (to get more items to keep the special meter filled) and "chaos" (which has more bullets to cancel and build the meter up). It's not quite as complex as it sounds; just focus on using your special attacks to cancel lots of bullets, and watch how the counter works.

Hopefully this'll give you the basics...if I've made any errors above, feel free to correct me.

MichiyoNoShiroIV · Post by **MichiyoNoShiroIV** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:12 am

And what is there interms of unlockables?

More credits other ships?

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:13 am

I have nothing positive to say about this game...

i can offer the following advice, though, if you find it playable:

forget about the boss time limit. any Iky-esque time bonus you may recieve is ultimately insignificant to the milking potential, primarily with lock-ons.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:47 am

No unlockables that I know of...though I own the original DC release, not sure if they added anything else to the "expanded" edition...don't recall hearing about any though.

For what it's worth, I consider Chaos Field to be rather underrated...I don't think it's the Best Shmup Ever (tm), but I do think it generally has good stuff to offer if you give it half a chance.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:01 am

MichiyoNoShiroIV wrote:And what is there interms of unlockables?

More credits other ships?

OT, if you have any other Cube shmups, like Ikaruga, or own a Game Boy Player, you ought to pick up one of these controllers:

http://www.ncsxshop.com/cgi-bin/shop/HGC-11/12.html

For whatever reason, they were never released in the US. I love Chaos Field, but my gameplay is on hold until this controller arrives.

MichiyoNoShiroIV · Post by **MichiyoNoShiroIV** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:33 am

Yeah I have a GB Player, Shikigami No Shiro 2 and Ikaruga.

those pads are really worth getting I take it?

MadSteelDarkness · Post by **MadSteelDarkness** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:45 am

^Oh, yes. Most definitely.

Leeloo Minaï · Post by **Leeloo Minaï** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:49 am

Good news for this pad, tha is all i wanted for my cube... thanks for info

highlandcattle · Post by **highlandcattle** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:10 am

MichiyoNoShiroIV wrote:Yeah I have a GB Player, Shikigami No Shiro 2 and Ikaruga.

those pads are really worth getting I take it?

Nah I like the d-pad on the cube.

And they were released in the USA last year

Platypus[gEc] · Post by **Platypus[gEc]** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:57 pm

I use thisfor all of my schmups (cube, mame and pc) and i'm happy with it...

Also, i got this game for the cube when it was released in japan and i have not played it much since (too busy doing other things). But the time i have spend on it this seemed to be an enjoyable game to me

vtmobius · Post by **vtmobius** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:12 pm

Well I'm happy with any US shump release. Chaos field is just a simpler design that Iky. By the way where were those hori pads for GC released because EB doesn't have them.

highlandcattle · Post by **highlandcattle** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:30 pm

vtmobius wrote:Well I'm happy with any US shump release. Chaos field is just a simpler design that Iky. By the way where were those hori pads for GC released because EB doesn't have them.

google.com
i don't live in the states so i couldn't care less

highlandcattle · Post by **highlandcattle** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:38 pm

Zweihander wrote:I have nothing positive to say about this game...

i can offer the following advice, though, if you find it playable:

forget about the boss time limit. any Iky-esque time bonus you may recieve is ultimately insignificant to the milking potential, primarily with lock-ons.

zweihander hates this game because he's last in the highscore thread

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:50 am

I just bought this today - I haven't finished the 1st Phase yet, but already I'm enjoying it. I love the swords, & the difference between the Chaos Field & Order Field is insane! I'm not sure why everyone is ragging on this game - I think it's pretty cool. And the music is awesome...

bVork · Post by **bVork** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:44 am

It isn't a bad game, but most shmups released in the past few years have been fantastic. I think this has created inflated expectations.

People looking for a long game won't like it, as the primary goal of the game is a high score and not survival.

I think it's worth getting. Once you understand the game, you begin plotting out ways to use the 'bullet sponge' to keep your combo chain going while you gather more meta stock in the order field, then switch to chaos field and use the lock-on to get massive points... until you run low on meta stock, then you switch to order, and so on... all while avoiding bullet spam.

Quite a fun scoring game, though there are a bunch of shmups (like Ikaruga, Gradius 5, Shikigami No Shiro 2, Mushihimesama, etc) that you should own before buying this.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:34 am

I just got this game recently and for first impressions, it is a little chaotic as far as what you can do. I find it very difficult (even on Easy Mode) to kill off the bosses, due to the number of bullets to deal with. This is more of a bullet rain game than actually fighting off the enemy.

For a guy who's used to my custom Ikaruga Layout (by that I mean, A button shoots, Y Changes Polarity, X Power Release --GC), can anyone offer some advice for Controller layout for this one, and maybe some general tips on when it's best to use the Sword, Shoot, Fire off a Wing-Layer, or shoot off a Homing Laser? Not to mention when it's a good time to change from Order to Chaos? I had no idea the laser was a Power Shot, so I relied on it too much trying to beat bosses since I had a hard time getting in close on them.

Also, as far as I know the Expanded portions of the game add more smaller enemies than anything else. Anyone else know anything?

sammaza · Post by **sammaza** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:40 am

Blade wrote:I just got this game recently and for first impressions, it is a little chaotic as far as what you can do. I find it very difficult (even on Easy Mode) to kill off the bosses, due to the number of bullets to deal with. This is more of a bullet rain game than actually fighting off the enemy.

For a guy who's used to my custom Ikaruga Layout (by that I mean, A button shoots, Y Changes Polarity, X Power Release --GC), can anyone offer some advice for Controller layout for this one, and maybe some general tips on when it's best to use the Sword, Shoot, Fire off a Wing-Layer, or shoot off a Homing Laser? Not to mention when it's a good time to change from Order to Chaos? I had no idea the laser was a Power Shot, so I relied on it too much trying to beat bosses since I had a hard time getting in close on them.

Also, as far as I know the Expanded portions of the game add more smaller enemies than anything else. Anyone else know anything?

I put the ps2 inside the Neogeo Big Red and it has a 4-button setup...I couldnt figure out if I had enough buttons...It felt like I was missing something. It can be fun if you get into later levels..but the opening level just doesnt blow anyone away. I guess there should be a label on it that says "Boss Battles Only" but that would be confusing to the nonshmup world.

Platypus[gEc] · Post by **Platypus[gEc]** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:36 am

highlandcattle wrote: zweihander hates this game because he's last in the highscore thread

Nah man, everyone here knows what really happened ... choas field came to zweihander's house one night and killed off his entire family. Ever since that day, zweihander is on a mission to avenge his families' death... at least that what i heard around here... could very well be the high score thing as well

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:38 am

BulletMagnet wrote:I'll try to cover the basics in a nutshell...

Thanks for the write-up. I've been playing DC Chaos Field on and off for a few days now, and not understanding Japanese some things confused me. Your post filled in the blanks, and now I'm getting much better scores.

Cheers!

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:41 pm

Platypus[gEc] wrote:
highlandcattle wrote: zweihander hates this game because he's last in the highscore thread
Nah man, everyone here knows what really happened ... choas field came to zweihander's house one night and killed off his entire family. Ever since that day, zweihander is on a mission to avenge his families' death... at least that what i heard around here... could very well be the high score thing as well

Just checked the high score board... sure enough, i've been knocked down.

Then again, i stopped caring about the game in the same week that i downloaded it... i had #6 or 7 (somewhere around there) on the high score thread, then shortly after, i realized... "wait a minute... this scoring system BLOWS!"

Seriously, -11 points (out of 10) for Chaos Field, for making Time Bonuses worthless. :/ It goes against everything shmups have taught me, from ESPGaluda's gold-countdown during boss fights, to Ikaruga's time bonus, to Homura's bosses. (who time out after 30 seconds).

But whatever, this'll be the second NGC shmup to hit the US, and beggers can't be choosers. :/

I find the story about Chaos Field killing my family amusing, though.

Platypus[gEc] · Post by **Platypus[gEc]** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:43 pm

Zweihander wrote:
Platypus[gEc] wrote:
highlandcattle wrote: zweihander hates this game because he's last in the highscore thread
Nah man, everyone here knows what really happened ... choas field came to zweihander's house one night and killed off his entire family. Ever since that day, zweihander is on a mission to avenge his families' death... at least that what i heard around here... could very well be the high score thing as well
Just checked the high score board... sure enough, i've been knocked down. Then again, i stopped caring about the game in the same week that i downloaded it... i had #6 or 7 (somewhere around there) on the high score thread, then shortly after, i realized... "wait a minute... this scoring system BLOWS!"

Seriously, -11 points (out of 10) for Chaos Field, for making Time Bonuses worthless. :/ It goes against everything shmups have taught me, from ESPGaluda's gold-countdown during boss fights, to Ikaruga's time bonus, to Homura's bosses. (who time out after 30 seconds).

But whatever, this'll be the second NGC shmup to hit the US, and beggers can't be choosers. :/

I find the story about Chaos Field killing my family amusing, though.

I've been digging through the forum to find this specific post. Reason for this? I just noticed Zweihanders avatar has changed AND IT CRACKED ME UP!!!

Good times!

Dale · Post by **Dale** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:58 pm

I like Chaos Field I find it very unique and fun and I like the selection of weopens at the players disposal,I also agree with Fro the music is great.