Under Defeat for DC

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:38 am

sammaza wrote:I have to get my dreamcast into my neocandy 29 tate`d asap! I wish there was a simple DC to J-PAC conector...This game is going to take the cake as the smoothest shmup ever...I can sense it!!!

There is, a relatively simple DC->Jamma adapter called the MGCD.
http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic ... light=mgcd
http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic ... light=mgcd

MOSQUITO FIGHTER · Post by **MOSQUITO FIGHTER** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:28 am

Very nice! I have to give this one a try.

Lone Deranger · Post by **Lone Deranger** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:00 am

Cool.... Just ordered the Limited Edition.

Thank you G.rev.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:23 am

Uh, you know, this can actually steal Rajirugi's thunder and even cause it to go unnoticed.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:46 am

Specineff wrote:Uh, you know, this can actually steal Rajirugi's thunder and even cause it to go unnoticed.

Not really. They've both come out in the arcades, and even premiered at the same AM Show (relatively unnoticed in the wake of ESPGaluda II I must say). The only people buying them that haven't played them is... well, pretty much us.

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:26 am

GaijinPunch wrote:That's a super fast home port no. About 5 to 6 months only? Great news indeed.

The actual porting process from Neomi to DC is fast. You just take the source code for Neomi and recompile it with the DC compiler. It would takes a programmer 1 week max to do this. It kind of like taking a order version of VB program and recompile it wiht the latest version of VB. Not much work involve. A PS2 / XBOX360 port would be another story.

Dave_K. wrote:OMG, I was ready to buy a Naomi setup just for this game. Unbelievable.

Believe me I was actually monitoring Yahoo Auction JP for a GD-Rom of this game.

I cannot believe we would actually got a DC port of it.

Where is my Play-Asia coupon.
Ar.. here it is.....
What my Play-Asia a/c password...
Ar.. That's right.
Let see Limited Edition or Regular version?
Let me recall.... What the price for a LE Border Down now?
Go for Limited Edition, that's couldn't be wrong.
Preordered.
Payment Sent.

Okay, everybody together.
1... 2... 3... HURRAY!!!

Again!! Louder.
1... 2... 3... HURRAY!!!

HURRAY!!! HURRAY!!! HURRAY!!! <== SAM has lost his mind...

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:53 am

Lone Deranger wrote:Cool.... Just ordered the Limited Edition.
Thank you G.rev.

What's the difference between the limited and the normal edition?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:08 pm

The actual porting process from Neomi to DC is fast.

I know that. I'm concerned that the port steals the thunder of the arcade release.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:30 pm

@Herr Schatten
NE=game
LE=game and OST

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:49 pm

Plasmo wrote:@Herr Schatten
NE=game
LE=game and OST

Thanks.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:55 pm

SAM wrote: The actual porting process from Neomi to DC is fast. You just take the source code for Neomi and recompile it with the DC compiler. It would takes a programmer 1 week max to do this. It kind of like taking a order version of VB program and recompile it wiht the latest version of VB. Not much work involve. A PS2 / XBOX360 port would be another story.

Unfortunally its not as straightforward as that. To quote System16:

Notice that Naomi has twice the amount of main memory and graphics memory that Dreamcast has, so ports from Naomi to Dreamcast may involve more conversion time. Also note that the Naomi board has four times the sound memory of the Dreamcast, and the reason for this is because the Naomi board is'nt meant to spool redbook audio from the GD-ROM drive.

So some optimization time will be needed for DC ports, but the op codes are directly portable since its the same architecture . Still relatively simple compared to other console ports.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:04 pm

According to:
http://insertcredit.com/

Is there any prize for the company that releases the last DC game? Seems so, 'cause there's another one announced after Milestone's Rajirugi - Grev's Under Defeat, the latest shooting game for the NAOMI platform, confirms the DC as the '128-bit Neo-Geo'. Scheduled for March 23rd in two different flavors: with or without OST, according to Game Boku Tenin no Tawagoto. Preorders can be taken here.

http://www.grev.co.jp/ud_ac/index.html

http://blog.livedoor.jp/od3/

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-70-15x1.html

neoalphazero · Post by **neoalphazero** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:10 pm

ST Dragon wrote:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/od3/

According to this site the game will have a "original element", gallery mode, and tutorial mode. They also show a mock up of Radigry's box art though I have no clue if it's official. *-neo

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:02 am

What's the music in the game like? Similar to Border Down?

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:30 am

neoalphazero wrote:
ST Dragon wrote:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/od3/
According to this site the game will have a "original element", gallery mode, and tutorial mode.

G.Rev really went the extra mile with their Border Down DC port last time - the addition of the "original" Remix mode was like a totally new game (or a Border Down 1.5...). Perhaps this mention of an "original element" hints at something similar in Under Defeat DC.

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:24 am

G.rev are really spoiling us , i wouldnt be suprised to see Senko no Ronde now

i just wish they would do one last thing for the DC and thats port atomiswave games

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:28 am

Sundance wrote:
Trevor spencer wrote:Just pre-ordered mine , god im such a dreamcast fanboy ,, oh well fuck it

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-x-7 ... -15x1.html
Yeah...join the club. Can't help but support a great system even if its dead on this side of the ocean. Long Live the DC!

I got a feeling this is gonna be a good year for shooters. Now if only Last Hope would come out on either the MVS or DC i could claim a Trifecta tag.

dont worry there will be a rom in no time , which to be honest is a shame, they really should of done a DC port, normal people cant drop $600 down on a game (well most of the time

)

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 9:51 am

Ganelon wrote:What's the music in the game like? Similar to Border Down?

Hear for yourself here.

http://am.sega.jp/utop/closeup/under_04.html

It's definitely similar in style, if a bit less bouncy/jazzy. I dig it.

sammaza · Post by **sammaza** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:31 am

WoW Just watched the vids on Sega AM's site...this looks unbelieveably cool. The level I-3 action looks sweet.

zinger · Post by **zinger** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:08 pm

Dandy J wrote:
Ganelon wrote:What's the music in the game like? Similar to Border Down?
Hear for yourself here.

http://am.sega.jp/utop/closeup/under_04.html

It's definitely similar in style, if a bit less bouncy/jazzy. I dig it.

Yeah, it's pretty nice. Cheezy stuff, but it sounds good enough. It's not by Watanabe this time around, though.

http://www.grev.co.jp/ud_ac/ud_demo.mp3

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:43 pm

So just this once I do not get online on my birthday and than this happens...

This is the best birthday present I got in more than 15 years (after getting Salamander MSX)!

Perhaps all the candles I burned had some affect after all.

Hail shmups! Hail G.Rev! Hail Dreamcast!

man, I love that little white box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:13 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
Hail shmups! Hail G.Rev! Hail Dreamcast!

man, I love that little white box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:45 am

nice!!!

happy new year everybody

Herr Schatten · Post by **Herr Schatten** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:31 am

Super Laydock wrote:So just this once I do not get online on my birthday and than this happens...
This is the best birthday present I got in more than 15 years (after getting Salamander MSX)!

Happy Birthday!

Guardians Knight · Post by **Guardians Knight** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:22 pm

nice, very good news indeed, its getting hard to keep up with all the new releases, maybe we should have a sticky with them all listed and their release dates.

right im off to stroke my dreamcast....

CMoon · Post by **CMoon** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:01 pm

I don't know if there is really more to add here than...

FUCK YEAH!

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:33 pm

Super Laydock wrote: Perhaps all the candles I burned had some affect after all.

man, I love that little white box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha. Which saint did you burn those candles for? St. Hitachicus the 4th?

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:14 pm

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:51 pm

Herr Schatten wrote: Happy Birthday!

Thanks!

Specineff wrote:
Super Laydock wrote: Perhaps all the candles I burned had some affect after all.

man, I love that little white box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha. Which saint did you burn those candles for? St. Hitachicus the 4th?

Nah, being an atheist, I most likely just caused a good example of a 'butterfly effect" with those stinky candles...

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:32 am

i liked chaos field and trizeal, but nice to see a first league port again.