Raiden V for Xbox One in 2015

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Still refuse to buy an x-bone.
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parallaxscroll2 wrote:Sony needs to counter this and get Gradius VI made exclusively for PS4.
I'd settle for the Gradius V that was supposed to be coming to PSN.

Does anyone know what has happened to that, btw?

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Good lord I'm excited! Please be a shmup. Please stay close to the Raiden DNA. I don't mind a bit of bullet hell, but it needs to feel distinctly Raiden for me to have a smile all over my face.
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HERE IS THE TRAILER!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/wy7y8zeHUuI

EDIT: Unfortunately no gameplay ugh :(
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Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:HERE IS THE TRAILER!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/wy7y8zeHUuI
.... :|

That's it? Gameplay of old raiden games, but not a single screenshot or any gameplay of the actual new game that the whole trailer is about?!
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iconoclast wrote: Does it even matter? Every STG that was released on the PS3 sold like shit despite the much larger install base. In all likelihood, the people who are willing to buy these games are probably willing to buy whatever console they get released on. Nobody else cares (unless they're a 99 cent app).
Agreed. As enlightening as the forum's armchair financial advice is, I doubt many here are privy to the specifics of MOSS' finances and the trade off they would be making to go with the PS4. MOSS know that their core audience is going to buy whatever system the game is released on, the lack of region locking means that the game is going to be available to fans everywhere, and they can sell the game for full price instead of making it a $10 download. Surely they received some cash from Microsoft to develop the game, which lowers their financial exposure and risk compared to developing for PS4, and if developing the game for the less popular platform means they survive to make another game and prevents them from crashing and burning, then I'm all for it.
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Financial advice? It's about limiting your exposure to the hardcore of the hardcore in Japan, which, no matter how you look at it is not a good thing for the genre. Unless you don't like Japanese shmups and would like for them to disappear completely. In that case this strategy is sound.

Anyway, this is MOSS we are talking about, and contrary to some prior speculation Microsoft is NOT the publisher of Raiden V. So chances are it will show up on PS4 after whatever exclusivity deal is in place expires (if there is one).

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 タイトル:雷電V
 機種:Xbox One
 発売日:2015年予定
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Looks like I'll be keeping my xbone
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Raiden 4 overkill ended up being a thing, so I doubt Raiden 5 will stay put on the Xbone. Of course it might take awhile, but PS4 owners will probably get it eventually. I really hope that given the abysmal sales of the Xbone in Japan and the far more dev friendly PS4 architecture (compared to the PS3's esoteric Cell processor) STG's won't end up being a mostly Xbone exclusive thing; I've bought a PS4 already, and I have no plans to buy a Xbone.
People have been saying M2 will be supporting the PS4, which I would like to believe, but the rumors about them absorbing most of Cave's staff are unconfirmed, and M2 hasn't said anything about supporting one console over the other; people are just inferring PS4 support from Hiroshi Iuchi's upcoming PS4 exclusive.
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Strikers1945guy wrote:
Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:HERE IS THE TRAILER!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/wy7y8zeHUuI
.... :|

That's it? Gameplay of old raiden games, but not a single screenshot or any gameplay of the actual new game that the whole trailer is about?!
There is obviously an editing problem with the trailer - it clearly was meant to be for the Japanese PS3/PSN. (Emulation problems notwithstanding) All the games depicted can be played on a Japanese launch PS3 (all Japanese PS3s if you exclude Raiden III (PS2) which for some reason doesn't seem to be available on the Japanese PSN as a PS2 Classic (for PS3) download) and some of the titles are available as a PSN download right now.

Raiden
Raiden IV Overkill

If anything the trailer seems to be more for a (25th Anniversary) PS3 Raiden Anthology.
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Getting Last_Dancer vibes from the above post and some of the others here.
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Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote: Someone help me I'm having a excitement overload!!!
It's an XB One exclusive.
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Strikers1945guy wrote:
Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:HERE IS THE TRAILER!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/wy7y8zeHUuI
.... :|

That's it? Gameplay of old raiden games, but not a single screenshot or any gameplay of the actual new game that the whole trailer is about?!
My guess is that it's still in very very early stages(concepting) and the only reason they are announcing it now is because the xbone had the worst console launch ever in Japan and they need every bit of help they can get to gain some traction.
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Doctor Butler wrote:
Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote: Someone help me I'm having a excitement overload!!!
It's an XB One exclusive.
I overlook that because it's a NEW RAIDEN GAME. Also, has everyone forgotten that they are most likely making an arcade version as well?
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that is not a trailer
it's a troller
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Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:
Doctor Butler wrote:
Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote: Someone help me I'm having a excitement overload!!!
It's an XB One exclusive.
I overlook that because it's a NEW RAIDEN GAME. Also, has everyone forgotten that they are most likely making an arcade version as well?
If that happens, it's almost certainly going to come after the console release, like with Caladrius AC.
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Oh man, an arcade game would be awesome :)
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You know what? Fuck it, even if Qute and MOSS won't show us jack at least they're still alive and putting out new games.
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Ugh, now I'm actually thinking about buying an X-Bone... dammit! :evil:
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Trying to avoid Xbox one, but this is the first time a piece of news has made me consider getting one.
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Even I might consider buying the XBOX One for Raiden V. That said, can we get a fucking Gradius VI now?
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Ceph wrote:Financial advice? It's about limiting your exposure to the hardcore of the hardcore in Japan, which, no matter how you look at it is not a good thing for the genre. Unless you don't like Japanese shmups and would like for them to disappear completely. In that case this strategy is sound.
on the other hand, maybe moss is thinking "oh, we can also get some money from localization", as raiden is still somewhat marketable in the states and way too many people have an xbone. or at least, i recall iii and iv being moderate successes. dunno about overkill though, and i don't really know how the localization process works especially not for "small" games and companies like this.
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Despatche wrote: there is no magical quality that somehow makes iii worse, and there is no place for "innovation" in any discussion about raiden. raiden iii is considered the low point of the series through sheer randomness/lying
Or it is just boring compared Raiden II and Raiden IV. Both of those games feel far better-paced.
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The Xbox One's d-pad seems a bit crap to me. I hope there are some decent controller options when this comes out. But fantastic news in any case!
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professor ganson wrote:The Xbox One's d-pad seems a bit crap to me. I hope there are some decent controller options when this comes out. But fantastic news in any case!
Someone announced Xbone sticks were coming out this fall.
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professor ganson wrote:The Xbox One's d-pad seems a bit crap to me. I hope there are some decent controller options when this comes out. But fantastic news in any case!
I have a 60 percent feeling you won't be needing the d-pad this time around. I'm a bit more than halfway convinced this Raiden game will be very similar to Ace Combat or Starfox, based on things that I've been hearing.
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^I'm sure that will be awesome, maybe even as good as Defender on PS2!

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Totaly expected the trailers for this and Natsuki to not really show anything seeing as they were only teasers :wink:
Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:I'm a bit more than halfway convinced this Raiden game will be very similar to Ace Combat or Starfox, based on things that I've been hearing.
I'd be very surprised, but if that does turn out to be the case then this thread should be moved to Off Topic immediately.
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or not, seeing as starfox etc entered the definition quite a while ago.
EmperorIng wrote:Or it is just boring compared Raiden II and Raiden IV. Both of those games feel far better-paced.
...or, again, you've never played ii, iii, and iv in your life.

i'll be honest: i have never been able to play iv. it's a shame, yes. never have had a 360, never have had a copy of the game. i've seen videos, if that matters.

but i have played iii, and i'm obviously familiar with the earlier games. i'm also not blind or stupid, even though tons of people will swear that i am. i know for a fact that the kind of nonsense being claimed here is nonsense, and raiden iii simply does not deserve to be "criticized" with such imaginary complaints.
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Despatche wrote:or not, seeing as starfox etc entered the definition quite a while ago.
Different genre but let's not open that can of worms in this thread :)

Fingers crossed it ain't like Starfox.
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