No, as one can see in the case of Zun's wonderful shooters (Perfect Cherry Blossom, Imperishable Night, etc).neorichieb1971 wrote:Would a homebrew attempt at something similar to Ketsui get the same recognition as Ketsui on this site if it were a comparable attempt?
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Where can we try it out?Shatterhand wrote:My own shmup, Space Disorder, while I know it's not exactly fantastic, it's a fun game to play, and most people who played it never even reached the 1st boss - How many people played the game, and when I asked if he liked it, he would politely answer "Yes, very good", and when I ask "What did you think about the boss" and the reply would nearly always be "What boss?"... I am pretty sure any average player would reach the 1st boss with 2 or 3 plays of the game... (Considering you get about 3 or 4 extends before the boss..)
Indeed, I DL'ed both and have kept 'em. I did mention that Green Wind looks like Mushi, but I'd argue that it plays closer to Galuda or Progear, since it involves using a special weapon to cancel bullets and make higher-scoring items appear, rather than a chaining system like Mushi's.Damocles wrote:BulletMagnet: Blue Wish and Green Wind, both being from the same developer, are actually quite good. Green Wind, however, seems to play quite a bit like Mushi, and shares a similar style in the graphics department.
Schrodinger's cat wrote:Yeah, "shmup" really sounds like a term a Jewish grandmother would insult you with.
In terms of gameplay, sure. Sometimes you do get a few games that blow you away with their idea and makes you wish commercial developers did the same. However, Angeraze seems to stick out the most to me simply because they even ripped off the atmosphere of the games they borrowed from.BulletMagnet wrote: Well, lots of doujin shmups do that.
No, you're way off on the 99 percent number, at least IMO. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff because you can't be bothered to click on something and download it in the background. To each their own.Neon wrote:Homebrew games are typically shit, even moreso than commercially-made videogames. Some I've tried, like Kenta Cho stuff (Torus Trooper!) are excellent. I don't care about graphics, but I'd have to hear it recommended by a lot of people before trying, mostly because it's a waste of a download 99 percent of the time.
I'm currently overwhelmed with quality titles, once I'm done with Garegga I've got Batrider and Mr. Driller G PCB's, after that I can work on galuda and dragon blaze and gigawing generations and super street fighter 2 turbo, etc. etc. etc.the2bears wrote:No, you're way off on the 99 percent number, at least IMO. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff because you can't be bothered to click on something and download it in the background. To each their own.Neon wrote:Homebrew games are typically shit, even moreso than commercially-made videogames. Some I've tried, like Kenta Cho stuff (Torus Trooper!) are excellent. I don't care about graphics, but I'd have to hear it recommended by a lot of people before trying, mostly because it's a waste of a download 99 percent of the time.
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That sounds...blindingly obvious. You shouldn't feel in the minority thinking that. Maybe what's happening is that when homebrew comes up, most of the time, people are talking about the best of the best, not homebrew in general. And I think most of us agree that there are a few really great doujin games, alongside the hundreds of programming experiments, games with enough ideas for half a stage stretched into 10, games that were designed from the start and never tested, etc., that probably should have stayed off the internet.BulletMagnet wrote:In response to the original question, perhaps I'm in the minority in thinking so, but I tend to feel that the vast majority of homebrew stuff is simply inferior, at least in most ways, to "professional" shmups.
I don't think 99 percent is a bad guess. Notwithstanding, I could easily name a dozen doujin games that I really think are worth playing. Not a dozen of the Best Game Ever or anything, but a dozen that have obviously been made carefully and are fun to play.the2bears wrote:No, you're way off on the 99 percent number, at least IMO. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff because you can't be bothered to click on something and download it in the background. To each their own.Neon wrote:Homebrew games are typically shit, even moreso than commercially-made videogames. Some I've tried, like Kenta Cho stuff (Torus Trooper!) are excellent. I don't care about graphics, but I'd have to hear it recommended by a lot of people before trying, mostly because it's a waste of a download 99 percent of the time.
http://forum.shmups.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=neorichieb1971 wrote:Where do you buy/download this doujin stuff?
Some links please
