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WrestleMania 30's over and it was a pretty significant show. Anybody watch it? I'll put my thoughts in spoilers in case somebody plans on catching the replay:
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Obviously the biggest story coming out of the show is the fact that The Undertaker's streak is over. I have no problem with somebody breaking the streak and I have no problem with Brock being the guy to do it, but the WWE shot themselves in the foot with how they've used Brock up to this point. He came in as a monster and generated a ton of interest, and then... Cena beat him in his first match. That did a lot of damage to him, but the final nail in the coffin was his loss to Triple H at last year's WrestleMania. He's just not a big deal any more, and now he's going to break the streak? I don't know, I just think the WWE is going to have to spend a lot of time rebuilding him if he's going to take over Taker's position as 'the final boss' of the WWE.

Aside from that, I think Brock could actually be a great choice to break the streak. They don't have to worry about him burning out and quitting again, nor do they have to worry about injuries because he only works a few times a year. What I would do is build Brock as an unstoppable monster that runs through every star in company until a new guy comes around that has the potential to break out as a top star - somebody who could really benefit from finally slaying Brock (Roman Reigns, for example). So I think this could work as long as the WWE does everything in their power to protect Brock.

As for the show itself, I thought it was pretty good. None of the matches were spectacular MotY candidates, but there was plenty of good wrestling on display. I'll do a quick review:

The Usos vs. Los Matadores vs. Rybaxel vs. The Real Americans: ***3/4 - Really good match, especially once it came down to The Real Americans and The Usos.
Daniel Bryan vs. Triple H: ****1/4 -The WWE's MotN for me.
The Shield vs. NAO & Kane: 1/2* - Short squash, but The Shield looked good.
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt: **3/4 - Not bad, but nothing about it was particularly good. Cena winning here was also completely unnecessary. I know that they're probably going to have a rematch at the next PPV and Bray's going to win that one, but nobody cares. The WrestleMania match is always 10x more important, and the wrong guy won.
Andre Battle Royal: *** - Started out dull with quick eliminations left and right, but there were several cool spots throughout the match. Cesaro winning by bodyslamming The Big Show over the top rope an awesome spot, too.
The Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar: *** - The match itself was pretty bad, honestly. I'm only giving it a good rating for the unforgettable finish.
Divas Invitational: ** - Not a good match, but it was much better than it probably should have been considering the participants.
Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton vs. Batista: **** - I need to rewatch this, but I thought it was a great match. Bryan finally gets his big win at the biggest show of the year and everybody's happy. Except for Randy Orton, who nearly Shawn Michaels'd himself on a monitor. Hopefully he can still walk tomorrow.
NJPW also had a PPV this weekend - Invasion Attack. I thought it was just as good as WM30, if not slightly better.
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Prince Devitt's probably on his way to the WWE to play Sheamus' little cousin Fergie McDivitt and AJ Styles came in as his replacement. Not a bad trade if you ask me.

Tanahashi also lost the IC championship to Nakamura, which really surprised me. Having Nakamura choose to go after the IC champion instead of Okada's IWGP championship was the perfect way to plant the seeds for their inevitable match, which I thought would happen at the Yokohama show in May. But I guess they're going to put that on hold for a while now that Nakamura has regained the IC championship. Tanahashi's IC title run was also a missed opportunity, in my opinion. Sure, he had a few great matches with Nakamura, but they could've had him run through the roster and help some other guys get over. I mean, he could have had great, meaningful matches with Goto, Ishii, AJ, Shibata, Suzuki, and Naito before dropping the title to any one of them, but they kinda blew it. Oh well, I'm still really interested in seeing where he goes from here. As good as the Nakamura and Okada matches were, I'd like to see something a little more fresh.

On to the show:
The Young Bucks vs. Kota Ibushi & El Desperado: ***1/4 - Fun opener. I love the Bucks' kliq shenanigans and Kota Ibushi is just absolutely awesome, so I knew I'd like this going in.
Jax Dane & Rob Conway vs. Ten-Koji: ** - The NWA wrestlers are so boring and Kojima & Tenzan are too old and beaten up to carry them through an exciting match. Bruce Tharpe will always be awesome, though.
Takashi Iizuka & Toru Yano vs. Daniel & Rolles Gracie: DUD - All of these guys suck. I like how Iizuka harasses Nogami at every show and Yano's antics can be fun, but their matches are never any good. Add the Gracies to the mix and you have a recipe for the worst tag match of the year!
Prince Devitt vs. Ryusuke Taguchi: ***1/2 - Pretty good, but nothing special. The highlight of the match was one of the announcers shouting, "YOUNGU BUCKS, PLEASE GO HOMU!"
Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga vs. Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASH: **3/4 - Meh
Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs. Tetsuya Naito: ****1/2 - Not as good as their match from 2/11 (which is still my MotY), but I'd say this was best match of weekend. Naito and Ishii just work extremely well together.
Bullet Club (Doc Gallows & Karl Anderson) (c) vs. Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata: ***3/4 - Pretty good match up until the ending sequence, which was fantastic. I'm a big Shibata fan so I was a little disappointed to see him lose here. Hopefully he and Goto will win the belts somewhere down the line.
Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: ****1/2 - Tanahashi is the best in the world and Nakamura isn't far behind. I love how all three of their matches have been completely different from one another, yet all were great in their own way. I didn't enjoy this quite as much as their second match (from 2/9), but I do think that it was just as good.
So yeah, I'd say this has been a good weekend for wrasslin.
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Necroing this thread to recommend the G1 Climax to every pro wrestling fan who reads this. The first 11 days of the tournament are over and it has been unquestionably the greatest series of shows in wrestling history, with more must-see matches than I could possibly count off-hand. AJ Styles especially has had an incredible career resurgence since leaving TNA - the guy is cranking out phenomenal matches left and right, including the current MOTY against Minoru Suzuki. By my estimation, he is far and away the best non-Japanese wrestler on the planet at the moment (and really, the only guy who's definitely had a better year so far is Tomohiro Ishii).

The tournament isn't over yet, though. There's one show left to determine the overall winner and the card is looking pretty stacked. Time Splitters vs. Red Dragon, Ishii vs. Anderson, Honma vs. Naito, Goto vs. Shibata, Tanahashi vs. Styles, and Nakamura vs. Okada all have the potential to be excellent.

In other news, KENTA, Prince Devitt, and Kevin Steen have signed with the WWE; CM Punk is NEVER EVER coming back; TNA is circling the drain; Alberto Del Rio got fired for smacking a social media director; and the WWE Network flopped hard, costing them a shit ton of money. Personally, I'm excited to see how Devitt and KENTA do in the WWE. They should be able to put on some amazing matches if they get to work PPVs with Bryan, Rollins, and Cesaro.
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Necro bump! RAW's main event this week was awesome. Didn't think I'd ever see a 'cinderblock' spot in somewhere other than CZW/BJW. If this weren't Kid friendly WWE, we'd be seeing Glass panes involved with Ambrose.
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Yep, the Ambrose/Rollins main event on Raw was great. Even better than their lumberjack match from Summer Slam which was already very good.

The Brock/Cena destruction was also really good. Main event matches (especially for the world championship) tend to follow the same basic formula, so it was nice to see something completely different for a change. It's going to be especially interesting to see what they do with Brock now. I'm not sure if they're going to give somebody a long title reign if he's never going to do house shows and miss almost every Raw, so I hope this doesn't lead into Cena regaining the belt at Night of Champions. :roll:
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iconoclast wrote:

In other news, KENTA, Prince Devitt, and Kevin Steen have signed with the WWE; CM Punk is NEVER EVER coming back; TNA is circling the drain; Alberto Del Rio got fired for smacking a social media director; and the WWE Network flopped hard, costing them a shit ton of money. Personally, I'm excited to see how Devitt and KENTA do in the WWE. They should be able to put on some amazing matches if they get to work PPVs with Bryan, Rollins, and Cesaro.
TNA's not circling any drain, they just signed Jessicka Havoc, a monster female wrestler from Shine. The only thing keeping them from signing others right now is settling on a TV deal either with Spike, or someone else (WWE went through this earlier in the year). Spike TV has even extended their stay till the end of the year. Negotiations continue on a longer contract, something we won't find out if it gets extended till probably sometime late December. Word is, other networks are interested in them, but they aren't named. Probably won't be named unless a snafu comes up with Spike come close to the end of the year.

Also I watched all of G1 except Day 11, the guy I picked to win it all, Okada, did just that.
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I watched Summerslam after a long long break from seeing any WWE stuff. It was pretty good overall, some new faces to watch and seeing Cena getting tossed around like a ragdoll was the icing on the cake, never liked his 'character'.
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