No longer rare.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:30 am

Just checked on ebay and there is like 30 copies of Rez for the US ps2 brand new and sealed

.. grab it while you can.

I remember when this hit $80+

Gitaroo man used to fetch $200 ish per copy.. Again tons and tons of auctions selling brand new copies for $36 ish.. Well worth picking up this one

subcons · Post by **subcons** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:01 am

I'm confused. What game are you refering to? Gitaroo Man? $200-ish?

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:09 am

Sorry, was talking about Rez at first, then noticed gitaroo was cheap now as well.. ive edited my above post.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:08 am

I got my copy of Rez mint for 5 Euro last week at an old forgotten shop, down town.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:37 am

The US only made 5000 copies of the game. I believe the other versions are more freely available.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:48 am

It's an interesting game. The joypads shake like hell in rhythm through out the game. Very fun, but I wouldn't consider it a shmup.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:22 am

I wouldnt call it a shmup in the conventional sense, the only difference is that its in 3D and the camera takes a pre-defined route.

I just read to complete it properly you need to take the baby form and save the girl at the end, thats got be almost impossible

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:08 pm

I place it in the "Rail Shooter" genre like Panzer Dragoon, Rebel Assault, etc...

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:15 pm

I remember my TRU had tons of Rez years ago. I got mine for Christmas from them two years ago; it was like $20.

awesome Christmas, that was.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:50 pm

neorichieb1971 wrote:I wouldnt call it a shmup in the conventional sense, the only difference is that its in 3D and the camera takes a pre-defined route.

I just read to complete it properly you need to take the baby form and save the girl at the end, thats got be almost impossible

Nah - it's not too hard...

You automatically get the baby form near the end and basically just have to pass the boss-fest without getting hit. Just like a shmup, once you learn their patterns it becomes a lot easier.

And if you have a full stock of bombs, then it's a cakewalk.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:55 pm

benstylus wrote:
neorichieb1971 wrote:I wouldnt call it a shmup in the conventional sense, the only difference is that its in 3D and the camera takes a pre-defined route.

I just read to complete it properly you need to take the baby form and save the girl at the end, thats got be almost impossible
Nah - it's not too hard...

You automatically get the baby form near the end and basically just have to pass the boss-fest without getting hit. Just like a shmup, once you learn their patterns it becomes a lot easier.

And if you have a full stock of bombs, then it's a cakewalk.

Actually, you can get tagged once or twice during the first 4 bosses. The only requirement is to kill the final boss in Final Form (every boss drops several power-up icons when they die). Even then, there's still a fourth ending if you can complete the game getting straight 100s, now that is difficult.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:21 pm

yikes - never seen that one...

Is it even possible to kill every enemy in that final stage?

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:47 pm

I just ordered a japanese copy from Play Asia for 16 including shipping.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:51 pm

It's a challenge but definitely possible, I believe there are videos up of it. The most exhilerating of which is taking down that huge tube-like vessel about halfway through the level.

Man Area 5 of Rez and the following boss fights has got to be one of my favorite levels of any game ever made.

To answer the original thread question, Rez, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure, Disaster Report, Gitaroo Man, and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment all got reprints within the last two months that are now making their way into Gamestops/etc.

They're "open" and sold as "used" games at Gamestop/EB/Game Crazy but are in fact untouched, literally still having the white sticker seal on the top with only the plastic wrap being removed (except Persona 2 and Rhapsody, due to those clunky two disk cases). Other online sellers are just selling them sealed for what is now a much more reasonable price since there's so many more copies available.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:26 pm

i am excited to hear this about gitaroo man. always wanted, but unlike my brother, it wasn't an $80 purchase kind of desire...

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:42 pm

captain ahar wrote:i am excited to hear this about gitaroo man. always wanted, but unlike my brother, it wasn't an $80 purchase kind of desire...

I saw quite few copies of Gitaroo Man at a local Frys Electronics last weekend. Please check it out if your even the slightest bit interested, easily my favorite rhythym based music game. Well worth the $50.00 imo.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:17 pm

Just wait until Radient Silvergun is available on a modren console, it would certainly piss off alot of Saturn fans.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:23 pm

FatCobra wrote:Just wait until Panzer Dragoon Saga is available on a modren console, it would certainly piss off alot of Saturn fans.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:44 pm

Neo Rasa wrote:
FatCobra wrote:Just wait until Panzer Dragoon Saga is available on a modren console, it would certainly piss off alot of Saturn fans.

That too. I would love to try these so-called "holy grail" games, but no way in hell I'm paying $150 for a dusty old console from Japan and another $300 for an uber-rare OMGWTFBBQ game that Saturn fanboys consider the second coming of Christ.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:54 pm

Smart move, Panzer Dragoon Saga is a great game but it's short, definitely not worth the price AT ALL. Especially in these times where in the US we get spoiled with shmups and other "niche" games coming out at 40 USD new if even that.

This may actually happen sooner than we think. The current rumor is that Sega has already signed on with the Revolution's download service. Emulating Saturn games seems impossible at first, but maybe there'll be an add on.

Before Sega and Sammy became so close, I remember Sega was actually talking about making what was basically a Dreamcast GD-ROM drive you could install in your PC to play Dreamcast games on. The Revolution will take SD flash cards with have some glorious compression capabilities.........

Probably nothing will come from this, but I can dream.

FatCobra · Post by **FatCobra** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:59 pm

Neo Rasa wrote:Smart move, Panzer Dragoon Saga is a great game but it's short, definitely not worth the price AT ALL. Especially in these times where in the US we get spoiled with shmups and other "niche" games coming out at 40 USD new if even that.

This may actually happen sooner than we think. The current rumor is that Sega has already signed on with the Revolution's download service. Emulating Saturn games seems impossible at first, but maybe there'll be an add on.

Before Sega and Sammy became so close, I remember Sega was actually talking about making what was basically a Dreamcast GD-ROM drive you could install in your PC to play Dreamcast games on. The Revolution will take SD flash cards with have some glorious compression capabilities.........

Probably nothing will come from this, but I can dream.

You never know what the future holds.

If Silvergun did somehow appear on the Revolution, how would you be able to play it with that weird-ass controller?

Hell, even if it comes out on Xbox360, I'd be happy. I can always just buy the games I know will become rare once the console is considered out-of-date by the public. I'm like a vulture, I love to descend down and feast on decaying prev-gen technology.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:02 pm

Haha yeah I had a field day when the Dreamcast "died" in the US.

The Revolution controller won't be an issue, because the Revolution has four Gamecube controller ports on it. On top of that, they said they're going to release "shells" you put around the Revolution controller that will allow it to be used comfortably for traditionally controlled games (though it seems redundant since it has GC ports anyway).

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:28 pm

FatCobra wrote:
Neo Rasa wrote:
FatCobra wrote:Just wait until Panzer Dragoon Saga is available on a modren console, it would certainly piss off alot of Saturn fans.

That too. I would love to try these so-called "holy grail" games, but no way in hell I'm paying $150 for a dusty old console from Japan and another $300 for an uber-rare OMGWTFBBQ game that Saturn fanboys consider the second coming of Christ.

Where the hell do you get these prices from? And who the hell is paying $150 for a JP Saturn?

Gitaroo-Man was just re-released I think the prices before re-release were more like $80.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:44 pm

Which is sad since both Rez and Gitaroo Man used to be uncommon finds at $20 before they became rare. Then Rez became rare while Gitaroo Man became a $5 game before its price spiked too. Now, both games are back to somewhat below their retail prices...

stoneroses · Post by **stoneroses** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:57 am

From someone who has had Rez for a few years now, I am glad to hear that it is easier to find. Hopefully anyone left out can grab a copy and see for yourself what all the fuss is about.

Still one of my all time favorites for the PS2. It transcends the meaning of game and is more of interactive art IMO.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:08 am

That too. I would love to try these so-called "holy grail" games, but no way in hell I'm paying $150 for a dusty old console from Japan and another $300 for an uber-rare OMGWTFBBQ game that Saturn fanboys consider the second coming of Christ.

Well, you would be getting fucked if you did.

JPN Saturn = $5 (about $60 total shipped from Japan)
Panzer Dragoon Saga JPN Version = $10

Total = $70

US Saturn == $20 ?
Panzer Dragoon Saga = $150

Total = $170

A far cry from $450, and the resale value is going nowhere fast. You could easily get your money back.

ST Dragon · Post by **ST Dragon** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:56 am

He sure would! Especially if he's getting his prices from here:

http://www.videogamecentre.co.uk/Saturn.html

This joker is asking:

£150.00 for a JPN Saturn
£95.00 for a US Saturn
£150.00 for a Radiant Silvergun
£120.00 for Panzer Dragoon SAGA Euro

!!!

That's quite overpriced imo.

Icecap Veiwin · Post by **Icecap Veiwin** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:36 am

Neo Rasa wrote:To answer the original thread question, Rez, Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure, Disaster Report, Gitaroo Man, and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment all got reprints within the last two months that are now making their way into Gamestops/etc.

They're "open" and sold as "used" games at Gamestop/EB/Game Crazy but are in fact untouched, literally still having the white sticker seal on the top with only the plastic wrap being removed (except Persona 2 and Rhapsody, due to those clunky two disk cases).

Shit, then that explains why my Gamestop has two copies of Rhapsody.

Man, I thought my Gamestop was special ;_; Oh well, good to hear.

E. Randy Dupre · Post by **E. Randy Dupre** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:18 pm

Kiken wrote:Even then, there's still a fourth ending if you can complete the game getting straight 100s, now that is difficult.

That's the buttterfly ending, yeah? It doesn't require 100% scores - it's 95% or over, or something similar.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:34 pm

If that's the case then I have seen it. It was quite lovely.