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Nintendo Saturn wrote:Sometimes I daydream of getting a PC Engine just for Nexzr and Spriggan, but I don't think I will. The hardware is somewhat unreliable from what I've read.
I bought a brand new US region TTI Turbo Duo back in November of 1994 when it was on clearance and it still works like a charm despite it's age (not to mention that it was the very last one that "The Good Guys" store had in stock at the time). It even came with an extended 4 year warranty that was to expire in November of 1998 -- never had to return it during that warranty period either as the console was solidly built anyways. The hardware is quite reliable (of course, your mileage will vary depending on where you get yours either new or more likely in second-hand condition). It's cool to be able to play both Japanese and USA region CD-Rom2, Super CD-Rom2 and Japanese region Arcade CD-Rom2 games (with an Arcade Card Duo upgrade) on a Turbo Duo console setup. Plus, it can play Japanese Hu-Card based games with the appropiate Hu-Card convertor or Kisado converter setup if so desired (this applies to the plain-vanilla unmodded Turbo Duo, of course). Both TTI and a few companies were planning to sell a bundled package deal with an Arcade Card Duo upgrade + two Arcade CD-Rom2 game titles but that never materialized for the 1993-1994 timeline for the Turbo Duo gaming platform. Sure, the mail-order company by the name of Turbo Zone Direct (TZD) sold such PCE Arcade CD-Rom2 games and the usual Arcade Card Duo & Arcade Card Pro upgrades to play 'em properly -- considering that they were based out of Southern California back in the mid-1990s.

If you go a step further, by picking up an Turbo Everdrive flash cart, you can play to your heart's content, all the Japanese Hu-Card based titles without the need to have the TurboGrafx-16 or Turbo Duo "region cart modded" (and vice versa with the PC Engine Duo/Duo-R-/DuoRX variant consoles). Up to a 32gb micro SDHC memory card is supported from the get-go...just load it up with your favorite various PCE & TG-16 game roms and give 'em a spin -- is 100% legal as it's real hardware running the code off of the game roms, indeed. In fact, this particular method is the cheapest way to play the uber-rare TTI version of Magical Chase without breaking the bank. It's cool to see what changes TTI did with the USA version of MC compared to it's original PCE counterpart of the same name.

If you can get ahold of a NEC produced PC Engine Duo-RX console variant + an NEC Arcade Card Duo, insert the Natsume produced CD-Rom2 game of Spriggan and notice that the opening intro and actual gameplay is sped up (compared to play it without an Arcade Card Duo inserted in the Hu-Card cartridge slot). There was no mention of it on the Japanese BBS back in the early to mid-1990s of this PCE easter egg with Spriggan though -- I discovered it by accident and it's a cool trick nevertheless. You can't do this with emulation, it's only doable with real hardware/software from the get-go.

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Sapphire
Spriggan 2
Sylphia
Air Zonk
Gates of Thunder
Nexzr
Super Star Soldier
Mystic Formula
Hellfire
R-Type (I and II)
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PC Engine Fan X! wrote:
Nintendo Saturn wrote:Sometimes I daydream of getting a PC Engine just for Nexzr and Spriggan, but I don't think I will. The hardware is somewhat unreliable from what I've read.
I bought a brand new US region TTI Turbo Duo back in November of 1994 when it was on clearance and it still works like a charm despite it's age (not to mention that it was the very last one that "The Good Guys" store had in stock at the time). It even came with an extended 4 year warranty that was to expire in November of 1998 -- never had to return it during that warranty period either as the console was solidly built anyways. The hardware is quite reliable (of course, your mileage will vary depending on where you get yours either new or more likely in second-hand condition). It's cool to be able to play both Japanese and USA region CD-Rom2, Super CD-Rom2 and Japanese region Arcade CD-Rom2 games (with an Arcade Card Duo upgrade) on a Turbo Duo console setup. Plus, it can play Japanese Hu-Card based games with the appropiate Hu-Card convertor or Kisado converter setup if so desired (this applies to the plain-vanilla unmodded Turbo Duo, of course). Both TTI and a few companies were planning to sell a bundled package deal with an Arcade Card Duo upgrade + two Arcade CD-Rom2 game titles but that never materialized for the 1993-1994 timeline for the Turbo Duo gaming platform. Sure, the mail-order company by the name of Turbo Zone Direct (TZD) sold such PCE Arcade CD-Rom2 games and the usual Arcade Card Duo & Arcade Card Pro upgrades to play 'em properly -- considering that they were based out of Southern California back in the mid-1990s.

If you go a step further, by picking up an Turbo Everdrive flash cart, you can play to your heart's content, all the Japanese Hu-Card based titles without the need to have the TurboGrafx-16 or Turbo Duo "region cart modded" (and vice versa with the PC Engine Duo/Duo-R-/DuoRX variant consoles). Up to a 32gb micro SDHC memory card is supported from the get-go...just load it up with your favorite various PCE & TG-16 game roms and give 'em a spin -- is 100% legal as it's real hardware running the code off of the game roms, indeed. In fact, this particular method is the cheapest way to play the uber-rare TTI version of Magical Chase without breaking the bank. It's cool to see what changes TTI did with the USA version of MC compared to it's original PCE counterpart of the same name.

If you can get ahold of a NEC produced PC Engine Duo-RX console variant + an NEC Arcade Card Duo, insert the Natsume produced CD-Rom2 game of Spriggan and notice that the opening intro and actual gameplay is sped up (compared to play it without an Arcade Card Duo inserted in the Hu-Card cartridge slot). There was no mention of it on the Japanese BBS back in the early to mid-1990s of this PCE easter egg with Spriggan though -- I discovered it by accident and it's a cool trick nevertheless. You can't do this with emulation, it's only doable with real hardware/software from the get-go.

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Thanks for the detailed rundown! I might go down thaa route at some point, but I must admit that this sounds a wee bit complicated for my limited technological knowledge (I've only ever played video games with branded hardware running discs/carts... I never dabble into computers/roms, haha, I use my PC only to browse the Internet! I'm an old fart, if you will.)
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You're definitely going to want the Soldier series, so:
-Super Star Soldier
-Soldier Blade
-Final Soldier

As for the rest, I'd highly recommend:
-Lords of Thunder (Winds of Thunder JP)
-Gate of Thunder
-Nexzr Special (Caravan mode!)
-Spriggan
-Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (Need the Arcade card, but it's worth it)
-Blazing Lasers (Very easy, but a really enjoyable game)
-Aero Blasters (the superior version of 'Air Buster' on the Genesis/MD)
-Star Parodier
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CartridgeCarnage wrote:-Blazing Lasers (Very easy, but a really enjoyable game)
I felt the game was really hard towards the end, especially when you die and have to restart without your firepower. Great game though, I agree.

The Soldier series rules indeed. I have the games on the Nintendo Virtual Console and play them pretty often. Great music!
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Haven't played enough to list a solid 10, but Gate of Thunder is the clear winner imo. That game's the most flawless classic hori I've ever played.

Otherwise:

Star Parodier
Lords of Thunder
Blazin' Lazers
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As far as emulation go, Turbo Engine is the way to go. The only games that don't work on it are the ones who require the Arcade Card, but there's Mednafen for that. Magic Engine is out of question (seriously, they want us to pay for a goddamn emulator? How come they weren't sued yet?) and I just can't figure Ootake out.
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Magic Engine is easily pirated. You should feel no remorse in doing so. It's functionally the best PCE emulator out there, so it's worth it.
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Magic Engine can't emulate the CD drive, though. You can use something like DAEMON for that, but it's hard to say Magic Engine's the most functional PCE emulator when it needs a second emulator to do what Ootake and Mednafen can do on their own.
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except for the part where you need daemon-tools for just about everything anyway
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Finally made the jump.

I can't wait to receive my initial batch of PCE goodness. The system (Duo-R) is already here and in the next few days it'll be joined by:

-Spriggan
-Nexzr
-Dracula X
-GunHed
-Final Soldier
-Gate of Thunder

I have never played Spriggan (nor Nexzr). As a pretty big Compile fan*, I am very, very much looking forward to it. Almost feel like a kid again - PC Engine had been, for a variety of reasons (practicality, perceived reliability, required financial investment, etc.), a system I told myself I wouldn't touch. :)

*I already own Gun Nac, M.U.S.H.A., Robo Aleste, Space Megaforce and Zanac X Zanac.
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Spriggan and Gate of Thunder are two of my favorite shmups, PC engine or elsewhere.

They're not terribly well known games but they are pretty great.
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nosorrow wrote:Finally made the jump.

I can't wait to receive my initial batch of PCE goodness. The system (Duo-R) is already here and in the next few days it'll be joined by:

-Spriggan
-Nexzr
-Dracula X
-GunHed
-Final Soldier
-Gate of Thunder
That's all cream right there.
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Bar81 wrote:
nosorrow wrote:Finally made the jump.

I can't wait to receive my initial batch of PCE goodness. The system (Duo-R) is already here and in the next few days it'll be joined by:

-Spriggan
-Nexzr
-Dracula X
-GunHed
-Final Soldier
-Gate of Thunder
That's all cream right there.
Thanks!

Also, even though I told myself I'd wait until I have secured the "must haves" before gunning for it, I'd love to soon swing for a complete/excellent condition Sylphia (i.e. with spine card). Problem is I have a hard time reading the market for that particular game, because it hardly ever sells at ebay inflated prices ($350+) (last sold copy = in August for 200 Euros, but no spine). Anyone knows how much it is being sold for "privately"? (And if it wasn't obvious yet, feel free to make me an offer via PM. :mrgreen:)
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Yeah, I think about 200-250 Euros seems to be the market value, depending on condition. The main problem is that even if you have the money, it hardly ever shows up.
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Sylphia is a legitimately rare game; surprisingly it doesn't seem to have had the insane run up in price as many other games - 10 years ago iirc it was a $150-$175 game so it's "just" doubled in price.

Glad also to see the majority of people in this thread recognize that Coryoon is a vastly superior cute-em-up to the overhyped Magical Chase.
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As a pc engine expert, here is my ultimate shmup list:
Lords of thunder
Gate of thunder
Psychic storm
Sapphire
Spprigan
Final soldier
Soldier blade
Magical chase
Spriggan mark2
Terra cresta 2
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