petition to convince TRAP15 to fix SH3 emulation on MAME

[Erppo]

So that's it ? You just omit to mention that some of the stuff you develop is for your private use only, and actually wait for people to come and beg for it ?

PLAIN EVIL !

I think the usual term is attention whoring.

[thetricker24]

you are getting famous

[Casey120]

why is trap15 teasing 1337 Cave emulation when he doesn't want it to go public nor beggars to bother him ?

Because it's a trap ?

He shared so much cool shit already so just be happy .

[matrigs]

why do you need fixed sh3 in mame.

it's not like you own the roms legally DO YOU

[Cagar]

why do you need fixed sh3 in mame.

it's not like you own the roms legally DO YOU

I think that owning the ports justifies it enough, and I really would love to play them properly with a keyboard. Especially SDOJ. Someone dump SDOJ pls

[Xyga]

why is trap15 teasing 1337 Cave emulation when he doesn't want it to go public nor beggars to bother him ?

Because it's a trap ?

He shared so much cool shit already so just be happy .

But I am happy !
This thread is not about asking trap15 to release stuff anyway.

[matrigs]

why do you need fixed sh3 in mame.

it's not like you own the roms legally DO YOU

I think that owning the ports justifies it enough, and I really would love to play them properly with a keyboard. Especially SDOJ. Someone dump SDOJ pls

no offense, but there is no way you can use the word "properly" for playing a game designed for arcades on a keyboard in mame on a pc and a flatscreen with savestates screen tearing and no scanlines in yoko.

[Cagar]

why do you need fixed sh3 in mame.

it's not like you own the roms legally DO YOU

I think that owning the ports justifies it enough, and I really would love to play them properly with a keyboard. Especially SDOJ. Someone dump SDOJ pls

no offense, but there is no way you can use the word "properly" for playing a game designed for arcades on a keyboard in mame on a pc and a flatscreen with savestates screen tearing and no scanlines in yoko.

Wake up.

[zakk]

petition to edit this thread title to 'fuck trap15'

[Illyrian]

why do you need fixed sh3 in mame.

it's not like you own the roms legally DO YOU

I think that owning the ports justifies it enough, and I really would love to play them properly with a keyboard. Especially SDOJ. Someone dump SDOJ pls

no offense, but there is no way you can use the word "properly" for playing a game designed for arcades on a keyboard in mame on a pc and a flatscreen with savestates screen tearing and no scanlines in yoko.

You are literally the dumbest person on the internet.

[matrigs]

You are literally the dumbest person on the internet.

That's why i found it fitting to post in this very topic.

Anything that starts a flame war and brings it closer to being locked.

[LordHypnos]

Doesn't the Xbox 360 have some sort of keyboard peripheral you can use

[emphatic]

Playing shmups on keyboard = Counter Strike.

[Despatche]

that

no offense, but there is no way you can use the word "properly" for playing a game designed for arcades on a keyboard in mame on a pc and a flatscreen with savestates screen tearing and no scanlines in yoko.

you are absolutely correct, no troll

he should have used "better", or maybe "more efficiently"

[Lilium]

Doesn't the Xbox 360 have some sort of keyboard peripheral you can use

Such things does exist but in my experience it adds a level of input lag that is pretty much unacceptable for bullet hell games.

[LordHypnos]

Doesn't the Xbox 360 have some sort of keyboard peripheral you can use

Such things does exist but in my experience it adds a level of input lag that is pretty much unacceptable for bullet hell games.

surprising, but okay.

[matrigs]

Doesn't the Xbox 360 have some sort of keyboard peripheral you can use

Such things does exist but in my experience it adds a level of input lag that is pretty much unacceptable for bullet hell games.

you sure about that? these devices are mostly dedicated to fps games were lag isn't less unacceptable than in bullet hell.

[n0rtygames]

Wake up.

Dumb discussion is dumb. Pretty obvious what Matrigs and Cagar were getting at. Game designed for PCB and Arcade cabinet means the "proper" experience is had sitting or standing at a cab playing on PCB. But then the responsiveness of a keyboard can't be denied for better more accurate play. Depends on the player though.

Nitpicking at words in the English language when they're spoken by someone whos first language is not English is pretty silly (not to mention rude) when the meaning is pretty damned obvious. In either case though, the folk who own these legit PCBs aren't gonna be dumping them for your pleasure any time soon given the value of them. Expect to wait half a decade or so if DFK is anything to go by.

Also said hackers will be doing stuff for self educational purposes, not for your pleasure

Go buy the games

[spadgy]

You lot really know how to make a mod nervous don't you?! This thread has the works!

But, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em... If we're making unreasonable demands on Trap15 I for one would like to petition him to reward all TRP-STGT players that make the Technical Bonus each week with a cash prize. And a full catalogue of SH3 PCBs for the overall winning team.

[matrigs]

Wake up.

Dumb discussion is dumb. Pretty obvious what Matrigs and Cagar were getting at. Game designed for PCB and Arcade cabinet means the "proper" experience is had sitting or standing at a cab playing on PCB. But then the responsiveness of a keyboard can't be denied for better more accurate play. Depends on the player though.

Nitpicking at words in the English language when they're spoken by someone whos first language is not English is pretty silly (not to mention rude) when the meaning is pretty damned obvious. In either case though, the folk who own these legit PCBs aren't gonna be dumping them for your pleasure any time soon given the value of them. Expect to wait half a decade or so if DFK is anything to go by.

Also said hackers will be doing stuff for self educational purposes, not for your pleasure

Go buy the games

Wise words that i can only agree with.

My nitpicking was unnecessarily rude because it resembles my feelings around this whole topic, which i find INCREDIBLY rude to begin with. I can however hardly consider someones language skills whenever i post. And i can pretty much vow for the english skills of the finnish people as i am writing this very post from Finland right now.

There is also a thing about most mame discussions that grinds my gears a lot, which is trying to justify mame usage in various ways. I regarded Cagars post this way. If that was not intended, i stand corrected.

I am by no means a saint myself and i am using mame extensively but i never consider it being a lesser evil than any other forms of piracy.

[Cagar]

Just ignore the word 'properly' then. It's amazing how much one bad word-choice can affect your post.
I love mame, it only lacks sdoj.

[nasty_wolverine]

Dumb discussion is dumb ... Go buy the games

[Cagar]

Dumb discussion is dumb ... Go buy the games

but I already have them

[Xyga]

Dumb discussion is dumb ... Go buy the games

but I already have them

Post pics of the games with you in the middle (naked) or you're no longer allowed to use Mame.

EDIT: like him http://www.break.com/video/dancing-asia ... es-1440554
This guy set an example, this is how you show the world you're not a pirate.

[Cagar]

Post pics of the games with you in the middle (naked) or you're no longer allowed to use Mame.

Sure, once i get home

[n0rtygames]

No. The world is not ready.

[Andypc]

If it wasn't for me playing Dodonpachi on Mame, I would not have discovered Cave's games and now I own nearly all the xbox 360 ports and Android ports. Cave are one of the few developers who have clearly benefited from additional people discovering their games on Mame while they were still producing new titles. Like it or not the games are now playable in Mame and the whole point of Mame is to try and accurately preserve these games for future generations to play. The point here is that if there is a way to make the emulation more accurate it should be pursued. I for one am grateful to all the emulation developers for their time and effort.

What I don’t understand here is why Trap15 would not want to take the credit for helping to fix the SH3 emulation, but rather let someone else figure out what he already knows, sometime in the future.

As I said in the original post about Mame 0.153, I for one would be grateful for it being fixed. I have a Mame setup in my vertical Egret 3 cab. I have an Xbox 360 setup in my Naomi, but that’s horizontal and swapping them over to play my Cave games is a major pain.

[Lilium]

you sure about that? these devices are mostly dedicated to fps games were lag isn't less unacceptable than in bullet hell.

I bought one and it certainly does seem to have a bit of input lag, and I can confirm that its not my monitor from playing Mame games and such.
I cannot deny that maybe there might be something in the configurations that could be done differently, I don't know for sure.

[matrigs]

What I don’t understand here is that why Trap15 would not want to take the credit for helping to fix the SH3 emulation, but rather than let someone else figure out what he has already knows, sometime in the future.

Taken a bit out of context, but i guess that's the gist of it:

It's a matter of respect.

[Some-Mist]

What I don’t understand here is why Trap15 would not want to take the credit for helping to fix the SH3 emulation, but rather let someone else figure out what he already knows, sometime in the future.

the titles aren't exactly abandonware... and I'm not sure about anyone else, but I wouldn't want to be the person responsible for fixing sh3 emulation for the masses. it really isn't largely beneficial to anyone other than the people who don't want to pay to play their games.