Hello community,
I'm currently thinking about buying a new monitor for both my PC and gaming needs. I plan to connect a X360 to the monitor, with the primary focus on playing shmups and beat'em ups, so very sensitive games in terms of input lag and various other technical aspects.
The internet gives quite a lot of advice so I picked out the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM which has a small input lag and a good IPS-Panel. Also it seems like you can rotate the monitor for some nice TATE action. The thing is, that model is quite "old" and I can't find it in an German onlineshop.
So I'm looking for an alternative monitor, what can you recommend? Maybe some other model from the Dell Ultrasharp series? For example the
Dell UltraSharp U2414H which is available on quite some shops now. I can't find that many reviews or data about the input lag and suitability for a videogame-fan.
Thanks in advance,
greetings
okerlo
Monitor for gaming purpose
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Xyga
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
Most recent monitor discussions:
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50058
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49991
Sticking to 24" (unless you're also interested in 27" ?) with fast response, low-lag, and flicker-free backlight;
- The Dell U2414H is a pretty nice monitor, but I've read all sorts of bad things about backlight leakage and quality issues lately...
EDIT: check the P2414H as well, almost identical, just different connectivity and little bit less responsive (by a hair), same quality issues.
- The more recently released Samsung S24D390HL & S24D590PL are overall even better IPS (actually PLS) monitors, but totally lack conveniences such as rotating stand, VESA mounting, or speakers.
- I'm keeping an eye on the upcoming AOC i2476Vw & i2476Vwm, which should feature the same PLS panels as the Samsungs, plus the the conveniences.
(no idea if they will be flicker-free though)
- BenQ BL2411PT is very good as well, higher resolution by the way, which means there will be a bit of stretching/upscaling/interpolation from 1080p & 720p sources. But it should be mostly okay.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=50058
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49991
Sticking to 24" (unless you're also interested in 27" ?) with fast response, low-lag, and flicker-free backlight;
- The Dell U2414H is a pretty nice monitor, but I've read all sorts of bad things about backlight leakage and quality issues lately...
EDIT: check the P2414H as well, almost identical, just different connectivity and little bit less responsive (by a hair), same quality issues.
- The more recently released Samsung S24D390HL & S24D590PL are overall even better IPS (actually PLS) monitors, but totally lack conveniences such as rotating stand, VESA mounting, or speakers.
- I'm keeping an eye on the upcoming AOC i2476Vw & i2476Vwm, which should feature the same PLS panels as the Samsungs, plus the the conveniences.
(no idea if they will be flicker-free though)
- BenQ BL2411PT is very good as well, higher resolution by the way, which means there will be a bit of stretching/upscaling/interpolation from 1080p & 720p sources. But it should be mostly okay.
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
Dell S2740L has lowest input lag iv seen on an IPS monitor
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2740l.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2740l.htm
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Xyga
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
Yeah but it's got pretty heavy pixel overshoot issues and very reflective surface.brownvim wrote:Dell S2740L has lowest input lag iv seen on an IPS monitor
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2740l.htm
And is 27".
PS: other big IPS with 3ms input lag are HP zr2740 & Qnix QX2710/X-Star DP2710 matte.
All three suck in their own way unfortunately (the korean ones mainly because of quality/returns, and compatibility issues).
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Xan
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
If 720p is of highest importance I'd look at 1440p screens instead of 1080p as the scaling quality is likely going to be a lot better there due to the easy conversion.
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
On that topic, I don't understand why reviewers/websites only care to check the quality of 720p on 1080p, or 1080p on 1440p.Xan wrote:If 720p is of highest importance I'd look at 1440p screens instead of 1080p as the scaling quality is likely going to be a lot better there due to the easy conversion.
(when they even care to check at all actually)
You can't be 100% certain even the normally 'easy to upscale' resolutions will look good, because many manufacturers are really good at screwing things up.
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Re: Monitor for gaming purpose
I agree. I guess it would be just too obvious testing that
On another note, while I'm quite happy with the color quality that current IPS screens produce, their biggest weakness really is darker screen content. In something like Resident Evil the IPS glow makes it barely possible to see anything at times. I found that the dreaded "dynamic contrast"/"contrast enhance" feature is actually beneficial here, and on my FS2333 it even seems to include an algorithm that changes colors around a bit, so nowadays they go beyond just fiddling with backlight brightness.
Since the genres that OP noted are more known for brighter colors an IPS panel should be still preferable over a VA one.
On another note, while I'm quite happy with the color quality that current IPS screens produce, their biggest weakness really is darker screen content. In something like Resident Evil the IPS glow makes it barely possible to see anything at times. I found that the dreaded "dynamic contrast"/"contrast enhance" feature is actually beneficial here, and on my FS2333 it even seems to include an algorithm that changes colors around a bit, so nowadays they go beyond just fiddling with backlight brightness.
Since the genres that OP noted are more known for brighter colors an IPS panel should be still preferable over a VA one.