Battle Garegga getting even more rare and expensive?

[Casey120]

too many people buying the pcbs and storing them in their closets ._.

Just like any game from any system in the world for the majority of the time you mean .
How is this possible ?

[Xyga]

During the early 2000's when jap RPGs were still a thing, many titles were going for insane prices.
Today it's really shmups and obscure games that go for the most ridiculous amounts.
I can't imagine how things will turn out in about a decade from now, hopefully the bubble will burst...

Until then;

[Pretas]

During the early 2000's when jap RPGs were still a thing, many titles were going for insane prices.

This never stopped being true. The price of an Earthbound cartridge (particularly sealed) has steadily increased over the years, for instance.

Also, don't use the term "Jap," it's a racial slur from WWII. Use "JPN" instead.

[rancor]

xxx

[Xyga]

During the early 2000's when jap RPGs were still a thing, many titles were going for insane prices.
This never stopped being true. The price of an Earthbound cartridge (particularly sealed) has steadily increased over the years, for instance.

Indeed this never stopped but my point is at the time those were almost standing alone in the 'overpriced' category.
Radiant Silvergun was pretty much the only shmup to be known as a must-have expensive/collector game.

Also, don't use the term "Jap," it's a racial slur from WWII. Use "JPN" instead.

Sorry not intended, I forget that it is indeed a racial slur especially in US english. In my language (french) it's just short for 'japanese' without any bad meaning.

[bcass]

"Jap" is just a contraction of "Japanese". Nobody takes offence at calling a British person a "Brit" so there's no need for anyone to get offended on behalf of the Japanese when someone uses the word Jap.

[Icarus]

Nobody takes offence at calling British people "Brits"…

The Scottish apparently do. :p

[bcass]

Nobody takes offence at calling British people "Brits"…

The Scottish apparently do. :p

Yeah but they probably hate being called British too. To quote the great Irvine Welsh: "it's shite being Scottish!".

[Oniros]

Time to petition 8ing for a release of a Garrega/Batrider/Bakraid compilation release on the 360.

If we try hard, we might get an OST release like with Progear! :V

[Plasmo]

MOAR SESX

[Mero]

Nobody takes offence at calling British people "Brits"…

The Scottish apparently do. :p

Yeah but they probably hate being called British too.

They could be onto something..

[Xyga]

Bagpipe machineguns.

[bcass]

They could be onto something..

Not as far a racist undertones are concerned. If any Scottish person ever objected to being called a Brit or British, I can guarantee you that it would have nothing to do with the kind of racist undertones that some people suggest calling a Japanese person a Jap does.

[Mero]

Well yeah, I wasn't suggesting that 'British' could be used as a racial insult

Just saying that some people might prefer to be called English, Welsh, Scottish or whatever is all.

On topic: Them Garegga's, they're fucking expensive!

[MintyTheCat]

This is kind of related:

I was reading about Cave PCBs dying and it got me worried. I only own an original ibara PCB, do any of them suffer from this so called 'suicide' issue?

Mine looks like it has a standard 2032 Battery.

Any help here would be appreciated as I absolutely adore ibara.

[Eaglet]

Shouldn't be a problem.
From what i know DOJBL (PGM) is the only CAVE PCB that does that because it checks for a decryption key on startup.
The NVRAM is connected to a battery and without sauce or a battery the key is lost and your game is worthless.

[MintyTheCat]

Shouldn't be a problem.
From what i know DOJBL (PGM) is the only CAVE PCB that does that because it checks for a decryption key on startup.
The NVRAM is connected to a battery and without sauce or a battery the key is lost and your game is worthless.

I see - thanks. I was a bit worried there

Are these Keys unique in some way or is there simply one Key per version of the Code/ROM?

That sounds like a very shit design approach...

[cools]

This is kind of related:

I was reading about Cave PCBs dying and it got me worried. I only own an original ibara PCB, do any of them suffer from this so called 'suicide' issue?

Mine looks like it has a standard 2032 Battery.

Any help here would be appreciated as I absolutely adore ibara.

Worry about the NAND: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 49#p961749

[MintyTheCat]

This is kind of related:

I was reading about Cave PCBs dying and it got me worried. I only own an original ibara PCB, do any of them suffer from this so called 'suicide' issue?

Mine looks like it has a standard 2032 Battery.

Any help here would be appreciated as I absolutely adore ibara.

Worry about the NAND: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 49#p961749

I see, so it's a poorly implemented Flash writing situation without any consideration to cell write balancing.

Worst-Case: the Flash ICs would need to be replaced. If writing to cells is enabled (at a guess) for things such as High-Scores then I would attempt to disable that to preserve the Cells. It comes down to how the Diagnostic Code works too to make a full consideration but is fixable with the correct data, a means to write the Flash IC and as many Flash ICs as the PCB requires.

[xorthen]

Once this entire "Retro" game craze dies off maybe prices will drop. I remember back in 2005 you could get Shienryu for Saturn for $25. I blame AVGN and youtube partly for a lot of the revitalizing of the "Retro" market.

[ebeb]

Better buy while the price is still low:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SS-BATTLE-GAREG ... 258cc5b535

[LordHypnos]

I sort of wonder about the "retro collectors has brought up the price of shmups" thing, because it seems like most of the retro-obsessed people don't really play shmups, and shmups are way more expensive than other retro stuff. I might be wrong though. I haven't looked into the issue that much. Also, it's possible it affects it in more of an indirect way like retro game sellers realizing that there is a niche demand for a relatively scarce genre of game (shmups), because retro game sellers are just getting more savvy, and also ebay and stuff.

[Aleksei]

Better buy while the price is still low:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SS-BATTLE-GAREG ... 258cc5b535

I was tempted to send a message asking if its a typo or are they truly insane.