Espgaluda II -official-

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:49 am

Someone needs to make videos of the whole game and spoil it all for me because I won't be able to play it till forever anyway!

If only I could convince myself to drop 2,000 bucks...

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:01 am

It's called Xmas gift to yourself, man!

When I get halfway decent at the game, I'll try to capture the whole thing. At the moment, I'm not continuing or anything. I'll probably eventually credit-feed after a week or so to see the ending.

whitey · Post by **whitey** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:06 am

Didn't get my kit yet

UPS sent it to the wrong hub somehow.....hopefully it will be here Monday.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:14 am

I think you're obliged to kick the delivery man in the balls when he does deliver it.

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:48 am

Mine just arrived.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:54 am

Mine just arrived.

Hope you don't have to work today.

After some more playing, here's some more thoughts. Contains some spoilery stuff, if that bothers you.

-I have no clue how the end of stage bonus is calculated. I need to research more.
-They're really cheap on the gems this time. Loads of big ass bad guys that give you like 10 gems. I guess they're telling you to be in kakusei mode.
-The object of Zesshikai (as far as I can tell) is not to chain a big ship that spits out a ton of bullets, but to chain him after killing a bunch of zako. Regardless of how many bullets the zako spit out, they will generate random bullets (which are actually a nuissance, btw). You will then cancel these bullets w/ the next zako you kill, and more are generated. Do this a few times combined with something spitting out 100+ bullets, and you can get the multiplier up to 500 pretty easily. Getting out of it is the hard part.
-Some things are more forgiving (the ship in stage 1 that spews out bullets in kakusei mode will start the gush when you enter kakusei mode, regardless if he's mid-pattern), while oher things, (like getting gems as stated before and the amount of gems you lose when you kill an enemy) seem to be more harsh.
-Stage 3 boss is a cunt, and after that, the diffulty really ramps up. Stage 4 mid-boss and boss really suck balls.
-Bosses in general seem to have much higher defense. Noticeable even with Ageha. With Asagi, forget about it. You'll be there all day.
-Lots of stuff from other Cave games in here (Mushi-esque bullet patterns, Nightmare from Ketsui... it has to be, it looks just like it, the stage 5 BGM is a megamix of tracks from the first game, and it just wouldn't be an ESP**** game w/o Alice Clone, now would it?)
-The "you can do it" audio warning is a different sample this time. The AM SHow version was the same from the original game
-Voice actors are different from the original (I think)

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:49 pm

Loving the sucker mounted round marquee

agony · Post by **agony** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:04 pm

I hate u

I wish I could effort this beast

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:03 pm

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:29 pm

wow, the PCB is tiny, i like

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 5:27 pm

sven666 wrote:wow, the PCB is tiny, i like

Yeah it's the same size as the Mushihimesamma & Ibara pcb's. Wish I could afford ESPGALUDA II!

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:40 pm

GaijinPunch wrote: -The "you can do it" audio warning is a different sample this time. The AM SHow version was the same from the original game

Is that really what the sound is saying? Is it in Japanese?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:46 pm

Ord wrote:
sven666 wrote:wow, the PCB is tiny, i like
Yeah it's the same size as the Mushihimesamma & Ibara pcb's. Wish I could afford ESPGALUDA II!

what hardware is it? i understand Cave used something new from the PGM base for mushi and onwards?

in-house developed?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:02 pm

Is that really what the sound is saying? Is it in Japanese?

English. I never knew it until yesterday when I read it on 2ch. :/

what hardware is it?

SH3. It's Cave-only hardware AFAIK.

Pointman · Post by **Pointman** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:12 pm

My kit came through today too, a real bastard from what I've played of it. It's a lovely looking game with, dare I say it, better looking explosions than Ibara. It is fecking hard though, ESPGaluda 1 is a piece of cake compared to this. It's a damn shame about the poster though, horrible folds all the way through it. Didn't realise it'd be taller than me!!!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:24 pm

Hope to see you in the High Score thread, and yes, it is definitely hard. I hope all the wienies that says ESPGaluda was too hard are happy. O_o I can get up to the 4th mid-boss on 1 credit, for about 45 mil so far. Still having trouble getting enough gems to really cut loose in stage 2.

EDIT: More videos at Hameko:

#3347 = getting gems from 2nd boss
#3348 = Wehha (2nd mid boss) in Zesshikai
#3352 = (4th stage boss, for just a second -- crap)

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:55 am

Okay, I'm finally getting the hang of this, and damn it's fun. I've started a thread in the strategy section which should explain a lot about the game for those that have it available. A lot of stuff has been figured out, but there's still quite a few things that are still a mystery. Overall, I'd put it's difficutly above Guwange, but below Ketsui.

Things I've become firm on:
-In Zesshikai, while I still think there are random bullets, the majority of the bullets come from other bullets. If you kill something in zesshikai that's covered the screen in bullets, you will successfully chain them, but they then spawn more bullets, whose trajectories are pointed towards you more or less. This can get dangerous.

-If you go into Kakusei Over mode, there's no gem problem like I was moaning about earlier. The difference between the minimum and maximum kakusei levels is huge though -- way more than the first one. Basically, you have to go into kakusei over mode, since there are a few parts that require a lot of gems to live.

-There are 6 full stages. The last boss is a whore.

-Asagi is the strongest character once she's fully powered. She sucks at first though (IMHO).

-No word on a 2nd loop, but there are two different types of Seseri's. The special one is accessible if you no-miss up to her (5th stage boss).

rom1frommars · Post by **rom1frommars** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:06 pm

I want this game !!

Lucky men !

I hope the price of the full kit is going to drop... +2k$ is too much for me.

Pointman · Post by **Pointman** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:37 pm

Oh my god....this has just sooo clicked with me! I was having a bit of difficulty getting to grips with the system in this (bearing in mind I've only just got to grips with the system in Galuda 1) I found the Zesshikai mode to be quite confusing, that was until I was a small way into the 2nd level on my last go and then BAM, it just clicked. Such a satisfying feeling to be getting all those 500x multipliers, it was one of those special gaming moments. This game has now been offically elevated to defcon awesome.

Blade · Post by **Blade** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:49 am

PLEASE TELL ME WHEN THE OST COMES OUT, I BEG OF YOU!!

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:27 am

Pointman wrote:I found the Zesshikai mode to be quite confusing, that was until I was a small way into the 2nd level on my last go and then BAM, it just clicked. .

I found that watching the first stage video has been a huge help to get a feel for the game. Go post your score in the HS thread too!

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:34 pm

Oh yeah, love the typo on the top of the screen - PLAESE WAIT ^_-
Cave are getting a bit sloppy with the bugs and errors nowadays.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:16 pm

Didn't noitce that. I can't even see my score as I play. I need to open my monitor and fix it, but I'm a bit scared, even though neorichie assures me I won't electrocute myself.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:34 pm

just saw the first stage video from hameko. looks amazing, i hope it gets a port...

and yay to cave for upping the overall difficulty.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:57 am

Small update at the main page, to the characters section. Tsubame, the first stage boss:
click me

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:00 pm

Another update. Now the 2nd mid-boss/4th stage boss - Madara.
Lalala

Post by **Dave_K.** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:40 am

GaijinPunch wrote:Another update. Now the 2nd mid-boss/4th stage boss - Madara.

I hope this isn't considered a spolier, but since most of us have downloaded the replay's thus far...

I love how this mid-boss' crossbow/gun explodes, taking off his entire left arm, spewing out a trail of blood from the shoulder as he continues to fight.

I'm so jealous I won't be able to play this for another year+ until it gets ported.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:58 pm

Well, he makes a comeback in a big way on stage 4... quite the asshole. Nowhere near as bad as Seseri or the last boss though. Once again, they've made the last boss a complete cunt.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:04 pm

Dave_K. wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Another update. Now the 2nd mid-boss/4th stage boss - Madara.
I love how this mid-boss' crossbow/gun explodes, taking off his entire left arm, spewing out a trail of blood from the shoulder as he continues to fight.

His shouts during that fight are awesome too.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:50 pm

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH