"First revolution screens" a shmup? (nope)

highlandcattle · Post by **highlandcattle** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:07 pm

Don't get your hopes up because it aint official yet but still it looks dang good at the moment
http://www.revolutionreport.com/articles/read/203

steveovig · Post by **steveovig** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:26 pm

It looks nice but is it a tradional shooter?

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:34 pm

As the name suggests, I'm guessing it's closer to a River Raid remake than anything else. The screenshots show meters for speed, altitude plus remaining ammunition for at least some of the weaponry.

Funny how the article reads slated for release, yet the NIBRIS guy himself says "Yeah...we don't actually have a devkit. And Nintendo of Europe didn't want our game".

Also bear in mind that the screenshots aren't really from Revolution, since they've only done the engine for PC so far.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:37 pm

Ghegs wrote:Funny how the article reads slated for release, yet the NIBRIS guy himself says "Yeah...we don't actually have a devkit. And Nintendo of Europe didn't want our game".

Well the wording of the article seemed to indicate that NOE didn't want to publish it, not that they wouldn't approve it if someone else picked up the bill.

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:41 pm

benstylus wrote:
Ghegs wrote:Funny how the article reads slated for release, yet the NIBRIS guy himself says "Yeah...we don't actually have a devkit. And Nintendo of Europe didn't want our game".
Well the wording of the article seemed to indicate that NOE didn't want to publish it, not that they wouldn't approve it if someone else picked up the bill.

That's what I meant, I just realised the way I put it might be misunderstood. Ah well, cleared now.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:46 pm

I doubt that this will be a shooter in the "shmups" category.

Looking through the early screenshots I could not discern something as a main ship whatsoever.

Also who outside Nintendo itself and some of the big/major developpers would have an actual dev. kit by now... close to no one I suppose.

FRO · Post by **FRO** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:53 pm

Yowza, those screenshots are beautiful!

If it's a shmup, I guess I'll be buying a Revolution!

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:54 pm

Supposedly Konami has one and they're the only company outside of Nintendo/Retro/etc. first parties to get it. I mean even if that's true, if the only one outside Nintendo to get one is the massive Konami then NO ONE else has it.

This game will probably be a lot of fun to play with the controller. Hopefully Nintendo turned it down for publishing because they're making a third Pilot Wings game.

Holy God imagine Hyper Zone with that controller!

BrianC · Post by **BrianC** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:15 pm

Actually, I noticed a big main ship on the bottom of the screen in the shots. Which means it could have the error of having a huge hitbox. Also, the game itself looks like it's a remake of River Raid. I smell a possible lawsuit from Activision.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:43 pm

BrianC wrote:Actually, I noticed a big main ship on the bottom of the screen in the shots. Which means it could have the error of having a huge hitbox. Also, the game itself looks like it's a remake of River Raid. I smell a possible lawsuit from Activision.

The title "Raid over the River" is a bad sign.

metallica_tyler · Post by **metallica_tyler** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:06 pm

Neo Rasa wrote: Hopefully Nintendo turned it down for publishing because they're making a third Pilot Wings game.

Did you just say they're making a third Pilot Wings game?

How come I have not heard of this

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:48 pm

metallica_tyler wrote:
Neo Rasa wrote: Hopefully Nintendo turned it down for publishing because they're making a third Pilot Wings game.
Did you just say they're making a third Pilot Wings game?

How come I have not heard of this

Hah! This is how rumors get started. I think Neo Rasa was just fantasizing.

gameoverDude · Post by **gameoverDude** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:28 pm

It may be possible that they're planning a deal with Activision to get rights to the River Raid name. Raid over the River sounds quite obvious. This looks definitely like RR although one of these screens (the tilted first-person view) reminds me more of Thunder Blade.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:34 pm

FRO wrote:Yowza, those screenshots are beautiful!

If it's a shmup, I guess I'll be buying a Revolution!

Looks somewhat similar to Under Defeat with the angle and loads of interactive 3d environments. If the gameplay is still on a 2d plane, I'd seriously consider getting a revolution.

~Kid Icarus~ · Post by **~Kid Icarus~** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:04 pm

Errr....I know this is a beta vesion running on a PC, but the Revolution had better have (and I'm sure it will) better visuals to offer than this. It looks like a dodgy budget PC game to me.

Anyway, I noticed the hieght gauge at the bottom, maybe it has a control method similar to Sega's ancient Zaxxon? Perhaps you get to tilt the revolution pad up and down to change heights?

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:28 pm

I think it looks more like a Desert Strike alike game than a shmup.

It looks very nice tough...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:42 pm

Shatterhand wrote:I think it looks more like a Desert Strike alike game than a shmup.

It looks very nice tough...

Agreed-it does look great, and although it does have the meters ala River Raid, it still looks more like a misson-based shooter then anything else.

And even if it turns out to be a shmup for the Revolution, I still wouldn't personally get a Revolution just for it. I probably won't even get one at all, considering that Famicom, Super Famicom, and import N64 games will not be available for download. I'm still ticked at Nintendo for not allowing this, because there is no good reason why they couldn't make those games available for download.

Until Nintendo changes this stupid policy, my enthusiasm for the Revolution will remain dead.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:15 am

Oh, cmon mate.

Neither the PS3 or the X-Box 360 will have any game available for download anyway!

The revolution is the next-gen system that most interest me, just because it's different.

Though I don't even own a system for the current gen.... it will take me a while to have any of the next one...

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:43 am

Shatterhand wrote:Oh, cmon mate.

Neither the PS3 or the X-Box 360 will have any game available for download anyway!

The revolution is the next-gen system that most interest me, just because it's different.

Though I don't even own a system for the current gen.... it will take me a while to have any of the next one...

The 360 will have XBOX Live Arcade games that you can download and purchase for a price.

And so what about the Rev's downloads?? I could purchase a NES, SNES, and N64, and still come short of the price of the Revolution, even though it will be the cheapest of the next 3 consoles.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:48 am

As Shatterhand said, it looks more like a next gen Desert Strike.

Also folks should bear in mind that the screens are from a PC-based dev kit they have, not a Revolution kit.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:02 am

Dylan1CC wrote:As Shatterhand said, it looks more like a next gen Desert Strike.

Also folks should bear in mind that the screens are from a PC-based dev kit they have, not a Revolution kit.

Word. I don't think there'll be any Revolution screens or footage until E3 next year; could be wrong, though.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:56 pm

dave4shmups wrote: And so what about the Rev's downloads?? I could purchase a NES, SNES, and N64,

...sell them once again for a redicilous low price shortly after...

Sorry, just had to say that.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:06 pm

Well, and you could also buy a Famicom, a Super Famicom, a import N64...

Can't see why all the fuzz about it then

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:10 pm

If Nintendo does something neat with the downloads, such as say translating Famicom games like Mother 2, then I will bite. But I am NOT buying games i already own. I still hook up my NES and SNES to the old TV regularly each month.

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:19 pm

Heh, I got this wall of death next to my tv with the NES and up all hooked up simultaneously. Having the downloads would actually free up quite a bit of space.

That said, there are some situations where my overzealous fandom of a franchise is such that I will buy a game multiple times.

If the Revolutions downloadable content is released in "volumes" where you can get, say, all _____ type games from _____ year instead of paying a price for individual titles then I will be all over it.

It would also be cool if they have an XBox Live type deal (they already said online play will be free, this is just for the downloads). Wherein like $50 a year entitles you to every download or something of that kind.

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:22 pm

It's silly to read anything into this. It looks like this is a strictly amateur development group that's trying to draw attention to itself by saying it's at work on a Revolution game. I can't take them seriously if their only justification for limited themselves to Nintendo platforms is that "NINTENDO IS OUR LIFE!!!" Talk about fanboyism.

And the "game concept" on the website says "best shooter ever created." Yeah, right. Come on. Have they even studied Gradius, Thunderforce and R-Type? Doubtful.

COLOR ME SKEPTICAL, CHUMS

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:31 pm

Best ____ created is always going to be a misnomer. I mean to most teenagers (i.e., the majority of people spending money on games/having money spent on them) in the US "shooter" means "Halo" or "Quake."

It's just easier than them to say "Best Jungle Strike-alike with a dash of Captain Skyhawk)."

BenT · Post by **BenT** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:48 pm

It takes a lot of cheek to say that. And I don't like undeserved cheek! Roar!

Neo Rasa · Post by **Neo Rasa** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:54 pm

Heh, it's like how Marc Ecko continually touts Marc Ecko's Gettin' Up: Contents Under Pressure as the most revolutionary game ever because you avoid cops while tagging other gang members' turf.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:06 pm

Super Laydock wrote:
dave4shmups wrote: And so what about the Rev's downloads?? I could purchase a NES, SNES, and N64,
...sell them once again for a redicilous low price shortly after...

Sorry, just had to say that.

"Laaaugh it up fuzzball!"

*shrugs* All I'm saying is Nintendo's policy on this issue makes absolutely no sense. Region-locking consoles due to piracy-that I can understand, but what's the risk here? The Super Famicom may well be the most owned import system in the US, so if anything, Nintendo would probably gain more money by allowing import downloads on the Revolution. Yeah, the Revolution will be VERY small, but this would help save a good deal of space.

At any rate, I wouldn't put too much stock into that game until there is a definate release date, which, with the way Nintendo's handling information about the Revolution, is gonna be a while. Remember how excited some of us were when we first heard about, and saw screenshots of, XBOX Xyanide.