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 Post subject: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:13 pm 


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Hey everyone!

So I'm organizing a second stg tourney since the first one was a great success and this next one is shaping up to be much bigger.

This is a team based tournament and there is a draft to create the teams. There is an effort to make the teams as balanced as we possibly can. The event is for players of ALL skill level, from true casuals to some of the very best players in the genre. That's very dear to me.. it's actually the main reason I've decided to organize it (with the great help of my buddy snowcrash, the webwizard). I'm aiming for a tourney that can be enjoyed by players of all skill level, where everyone rivals against players around their skill level, always having a close target to aim for and improve their scores knowing that every PB will help their team. I'm emphasizing about this and putting it in the forefront because I'm looking for players who will contribute and won't be shy to submit their scores early. Now, I can't literally force anyone to do so but I'm hoping you don't blame me for giving it my best shot.

We're playing 12 games that players will be voting on once the signup process is over. I know it's a lot.. and it's absolutely intentional. The idea is to offer a lot of variety so there's always a game you'll feel like playing at any time during the month. It's also to create some sort of a dance on the leaderboards.. so that players can keep an eye on where everyone else stands and decide which game they should be focusing on to further improve their team's rank and their own individual rank. It's to create an illusion or a "false" sense of pride for a player to MAYBE outrank someone who's clearly better than they are at one game or two. We all know there's no way I could beat Erppo or Eaglet or many of the players who have already joined the tourney at any game if time wasn't part of the equation. So it's most likely a different format than what you've normally seen before.. In short, outstanding performances are not expected for each of the games we play.. but it is expected that at least 1 respectable credit is submitted on every game since every score matters. Why does every score matter you might ask? Because if there is a cut somewhere, the casuals are the ones taking the hit. And like I said before, I'm creating this so that players of all skill levels can have fun in a shmup tourney.

Here is the website we use to submit our scores https://calice.snowcrash.fun/tournaments/1
You can see the results of the first tourney. You'll probably notice that some players didn't submit on every game. I wasn't so insistent about this when I advertised the tourney. reason being, I needed people to get on board.. so people who were on the fence joined. I'm thankful they did because it helped the event to get going. The amount of people in the Discord has nearly tripled since last event. And if the farm has an interest for it, well.. it could be much much bigger. That said, I have never opened the doors like this. So again, nothing I can do about it if you sign up and can't contribute but I politely ask that you be considerate and sign up if you believe that you'll be submitting a score for every game. Can be only 1 credit per game.. so long as there was an effort put in the credit, that's perfectly fine. That's all I ask.

All Mame (no forced versions.. PCB are obviously allowed and so are accurate ports)
Signups open on Sept 1st and will last until Sept 14th or so (not exactly determined, could end a bit sooner.. not later).
We warm up with the 12 games during the month of October.
Tourney starts on November 1st and will end on December 1st included.
The tourney relies on the honor system. Screenshot only unless you're submitting a top 3 score (what this means is, if you're going for a score that you believe to be on the top 3, you should be recording your runs). Accepted video format is Youtube (unlisted is fine) or a Twitch highlight. Players can submit with an INP but they'll be required to "convert" it to a video of YT within the first week of submission. Video proof isn't necessarily to prevent cheating. It's to give other players something to watch, learn and discuss to improve their own scores. They could search on Youtube but I find it so much more interesting and personal if videos made for the tourney are available for this. Helps creating bonds and such.. Also, there will be a stream of the best runs the tourney had to offer on my Twitch as a closing celebration.


You can contact me directly on Discord for an invite if we are on a same channel (I'm on Elixir's, Icarus, Aquas and a couple others as DenT4F or post in this thread. You can find me on Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/dent4f and whisper at me. Or you can DM me here but that last option might take me longer to get back at you since I'm not always logged in. Thanks!


List of potential games
Spoiler: show
1- My Dad loves this game:
Star Force ~ Tecmo
Vulgus ~ Capcom
Juno First ~ Konami
Donkey Kong 3 ~ Nintendo

2- My Dad loves this game too:
Image Fight ~ Irem
Battlantis ~ Konami
Armed Formation F ~ Nichibutsu
Gun.Smoke (100K for every extra life remaining on clear - 500K max) ~ Capcom

3- Les Années Four x Twenty + Ten:
V-V ~ Toaplan
Strikers 1945 II ~ Psikyo
Strikers 1999 ~ Psikyo
Mahou Daisakusen ~ Raizing

4- It's Over 2000!!!:
Dodonpachi II: Bee Storm ~ IGS
Mars Matrix ~ Takumi
Espgaluda ~ Cave
Dimahoo ~ Raizing

5- Should I be tilting my head?:
Darius Gaiden ~ Taito
R-Type LEO ~ Irem
Sengoku Blade ~ Psikyo
Gokujyou Parodius ~ Konami

6- It's a stretch but.. War Zone themed:
Fire Shark ~ Toaplan
Raiden Fighters Jet ~ Seibu Kaihatsu
Battle Garegga (M2 port allowed - Default bullets, No HUD) ~ Raizing
Ketsui: Kizuna Jigoku Tachi ~ Cave

7- If There's a Rumor then it must be True!:
MACROSS II Choujikuu Yousai ~ NMK
Valtric ~ NMK
Rapid Hero ~ NMK
Super X ~ N.T.C

8- Disco Possessed Sonic Dragon :
Dangun Feveron ~ Cave
Guwange ~ Cave
Sonic Wings Limited ~ Video System
Dragon Blaze ~ Psikyo

9- Meme'em Ups:
Bermuda Triangle ~ SNK
Sky Adventure ~ Alpha Denshi
Dr. Toppel Tankentai ~ Kaneko
Ultra X Weapons ~ Seta/Banpresto

10- Unfair matchup - Na3co vs Konam1:
Twin Bee Yahho! ~ Konami
Galaga '88 ~ Namco
Tank Force ~ Namco
Tenkomori Shooting (Medium Course) ~ Namco

11- One... Person Army:
Thunder Zone ~ Data East
Shock Troopers ~ SNK
Total Carnage ~ Midway
Gundhara ~ Banpresto

12- Cabal Jones and the Clones:
Blood Bros ~ TAD Corporation
Cabal ~ TAD Corporation
NAM 1975 ~ SNK
Pirates ~ Nix


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:15 pm 



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I'd like to participate!

I'm not down with discord servers though, can you link me? I'll try DMing as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:38 pm 


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I'm in!
The list of games look varied enough, I think I should find some fun stuff to try to get decent scores in, and maybe discover some cool ones I didn't know about beforehand.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:03 pm 


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I'm in! Wish I'd joined in last time, it looked really fun.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:37 am 


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Having participated in the first edition, I can confirm it was a lot of fun. Managed to burn out on Detana TwinBee though... :P

Not sure yet whether I'll want to participate this time around, but the possibilities of Battlantis, Gokujou Parodius, and Dragon Blaze are tempting...

Edit: Oh geez the list of candidates even has Dr. Toppel Tankentai, you've really thought of everything.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:07 pm 


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Shepardus wrote:
Having participated in the first edition, I can confirm it was a lot of fun. Managed to burn out on Detana TwinBee though... :P

Not sure yet whether I'll want to participate this time around, but the possibilities of Battlantis, Gokujou Parodius, and Dragon Blaze are tempting...

Edit: Oh geez the list of candidates even has Dr. Toppel Tankentai, you've really thought of everything.


Haha, to be honest I've never played Dr. Toppel Tankentai but I was browsing through my games looking for meme games and when I saw the title, it jumped out of my monitor lol. Played it a bit, looks like a nice game.. not exactly memey but the title is, so it works for me :lol:

Also, the poll changed "a bit" since yesterday :wink:

Had to make some tweaks because I need an NMK game to win. So I made sure it would happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
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DenT4F wrote:
Haha, to be honest I've never played Dr. Toppel Tankentai but I was browsing through my games looking for meme games and when I saw the title, it jumped out of my monitor lol. Played it a bit, looks like a nice game.. not exactly memey but the title is, so it works for me :lol:

It stood out to me because I've hardly seen anyone mention the game at all, I only heard of the game thanks to a random YouTube recommendation. Seems like a decent enough game.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:34 pm 


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it's the Cup Cup yall. Let's get in there and vote Fire Shark
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
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Quick update..

We're now 133 in the server, 93 of them joined in August. I'm estimating at least 70% of the people who joined the Discord will sign up for the tourney. It's a safe estimation, I'd be very surprised if the percentage doesn't exceed 70.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:47 am 


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I'd be interested in an invite! I'm not absolutely sure I'll have the time to compete, but I'm interested.
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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
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Awesome stuff! I'll join in :-D
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Very glad to hear you'll be back Mark and Myco!


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 Post subject: Re: Shmup Tourney - La Calice Cup Cup Winter 2019
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Signups have been open officially for 8hres.

We just hit 50 participants.


Signups end on Sept 14th.


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Sounds fun. Hit me up with an invite, please.


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81 players have officially signed up 8)


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For games that have relatively accurate arcade ports, such as Darius Gaiden (Saturn and Switch, for example), could we play those versions, or is it strictly arcade PCBs and/or ROMs only? I'm very tempted to jump in this time.
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Hey yoo Guru, that's decided once the games are selected as a group. We have an open discussion throughout the warmup season (October). In other words, everyone has a say on the validity of the ports and I make the final decision based on the intel and knowledge people provided.

For example, in the case of Darius Gaiden.. I'm fairly sure that if it gets in, there will be a restriction on the autofire rate. And the autofire cheat of the port wouldn't be allowed. So it's a case by case and everyone is involved when it comes to game specific rules.

It ain't SUPER strict, the port doesn't have to be absolutely identical as the rom but it does have to be close enough and it depends on the discrepancies. No simple answer to this one.. other than sometimes ports are allowed, sometimes they aren't for "reasons".


EDIT: You can reach me directly on Discord if interested. We're on same servers :wink:

EDIT 2: We're 90 players now.. which means we doubled the amount of players on the second event 8)


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Saw djTatsujin respond to the tweet about this, looks like lot of fun. I haven't played even half the games listed but I do love some examples of the genre (Mushihimesama, Touhou, the NES Gun.Smoke [which is way better then the arcade in my humble opinion] and TwinBee) so I'm down to see how far I can get in this

Please sign me up!
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Bumping this since there's a little less than 1 week left to signups.

103 participants so far.


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A list of actually good games? Would like to join!
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Been hesitating long enough. Sign me up.
Here's hoping I can get past the second level in at least some games. :wink:
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12 spots remaining.

signups are going to close at 120 players


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DenT4F wrote:
12 spots remaining.

signups are going to close at 120 players

Hey DenT4F, sorry to contact you here, but every other place is blocked by my work.

Was the email verification thing sorted? I tried to sign up like a month ago but couldn't verify my email as there was no link attached. I just tried again, but I can't sign up until it verifies my email.
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Hey, you need to get on Discord to actually sign up. We can deal with that issue but you gotta get on Discord first


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Should probably post in the Discord from now on, but I'm concerned about bandwidth atm (I've less than 1/3 GB left for next few days).

Just wanted to assure people (particularly DenT4F) that I'm fully hyped for the tourney, as a way to get more involved in the community. I'll be more active on Discord once things ramp up.
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First step in maybe going full shmup. :P
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Been a few problems so far though (my Wii is temperamental), wish me luck. :D
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