10th Annual Top 25 Shmups of All Time - Results

[Rob]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

Mars Matrix charting at all?

Humble request to chain the stages.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

I tried it in epsxe2 and could still hear that sound in my head.

[soupbones]

In my eyes there should be a cave only list and everything else list. It's nearly pointless seeing which few oddball games get mixed up by chance. Seems like anything oldschool or hori just isn't very popular these days. Understandable, but also sad. Sure the honorable mention has some decent non-cave games.. oh why not:

The non-CAVE ver.

1 ) Battle Garegga
2 ) Armed Police Batrider
3 ) Batsugun
4 ) Raiden Fighters Jet
5 ) Mars Matrix
6 ) Gunbird 2
7 ) Radiant Silvergun
8 ) Dragon Blaze
9) Strikers 1945 II
10 ) R-Type
11 ) Ikaruga
12 ) Giga Wing
13 ) Battle Bakraid
14 ) Soukyugurentai
15 ) Gradius Gaiden
16 ) ... crap, I was going to add honorable mentions, in order.. but they aren't ordered by ranking it seems, just alphabetically.

Amazing how much more interesting that list just became to me

Swap Raidant Silvergun for some Super Fantasy Zone or Thunderforce 3 and this would be a near perfect list. (I love me some Cave, but I'm just tired of seeing there game dominate these lists)

[J_Taishu]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

Gradius V does have its faults though, namely the ridiculous play length. I also feel while the new graphics look good, they do lack a lot of the visual charm that Gaiden has.

[Friendly]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

I tried it in epsxe2 and could still hear that sound in my head.

Sorry for the off-topic, but do you mean a click-click-click sound after inserting a disc, before it starts spinning? I have a couple of old optical drives that do this, does anyone know what's causing it? Which part of the drive assembly would need to be replaced to fix it?

[Squire Grooktook]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

Gradius V does have its faults though, namely the ridiculous play length.

I actually find that to be one of the best things about Gradius V. It's not just a game, it's an adventure. An odyssey. A saga.

[Kollision]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

Gradius V does have its faults though, namely the ridiculous play length.

I actually find that to be one of the best things about Gradius V. It's not just a game, it's an adventure. An odyssey. A saga.

I agree, Grooktook.
And let's not forget about the fact that, graphically, all previous entries pale when compared with Gradius V.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

Gradius V still has all of the best ingredients from side-scrollers. People stopped playing it because they were tired of the wood chipper sounds from their PS2s trying to run it.

I tried it in epsxe2 and could still hear that sound in my head.

Sorry for the off-topic, but do you mean a click-click-click sound after inserting a disc, before it starts spinning? I have a couple of old optical drives that do this, does anyone know what's causing it? Which part of the drive assembly would need to be replaced to fix it?

Its the sound of your PS2 spinning the CD for the entire length of the game. So - I'm no hardware expert but for some reason this game has to spin the CD super fast while it's running. -Thats nothing though, I nearly set Gradius Gaiden on fire trying to play it directly from the CD through epsxe (on my shitty old PC).

Gradius V was really good but it's design needed "tightening". Definitely a shmup for the home.

[Mortificator]

For the top-loading PS2s, blue disc noise doesn't sound as noticeable to me if I lay something like a book on top of the console.

I don't see myself playing Gradius V through from start to finish again, but with stage select and score attack, the individual stages can be taken as challenges in their own right.

[EmperorIng]

Also worth noting:

Only 2 horizontals in the top 25

12 horizontals in total (top 25 and honorable mention).

I guess memorizers are just too hardcore for this forum.

[Vyxx]

I guess memorizers are just too hardcore for this forum.

I never understood the whole "memorizer" thing. Many bullet hells are just as "memorizors" as old school shmups like r-type or Gradius games.

How far can you get in Ibara just on random play alone?

[Aleksei]

where the bleep is Darius Gaiden? Huh? WHEEEERRRREEEE???

[ChainsawGuitarSP]

Highest ranking for Batsugun this year, that's pretty neat. Go! Go! Toaplan!

[Squire Grooktook]

I guess memorizers are just too hardcore for this forum.

I never understood the whole "memorizer" thing. Many bullet hells are just as "memorizors" as old school shmups like r-type or Gradius games.

How far can you get in Ibara just on random play alone?

IMO

Memorizer = It's hard because it requires memorization
Regular = It requires memorization because it's hard

Another thing is, in a "memorizer" like R-Type, the correct path through a situation is generally a lot more esoteric and difficult to figure out, and on top of that it's a LOT harder to recover from. If you screw up in R-Type, you basically get backed into a corner with no chance to escape whatsoever (the game might as well flash a "YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD" message 3 seconds before this happens).

Gradius is not a memorizer IMO (except on certain stages) because even when you screw up and take the "wrong" path, you can generally make a come back and survive anyway if your good (for example, accidentally leave several enemy spawners alive and you can still survive with good bullet dodging fundamentals, it's just really really hard). It's just that a whole game full of those kind of stunts is a bit daunting.

Also aside from certain beginner traps (the walkers in Gradius II, for example), the level design in Gradius is generally a lot more intuitive and easy to figure out just by taking a look at with some analytically thought.

Darius on the other hand is a semi memorizer imo, because even though you can recover from mistakes and the level design is pretty intuitive, you still have to carefully know where all the power ups are in order to survive long enough to power up, cause if you don't you'll have no crowd control and you'll just get zerg rushed by a million fast bullet spewing popcorn enemies.

so yeah IMO that's the deal with memorizers.

[ST Dragon]

Ahahah! 3 DoDonPachi games on the same list?!
And what's with Battle Garegga scoring No.1 every single year?! It's an ok game, but come on now, it's not that great!

[Tyranix95]

Thanks Nifty

Yeah, Thanks Nifty.

1-Up for you and incognoscente.

Also worth noting:

Only 2 horizontals in the top 25

12 horizontals in total (top 25 and honorable mention).

I guess memorizers are just too hardcore for this forum.

Ehh, that just means that shmupers don't like 'tating their monitors.

Ahahah! 3 DoDonPachi games on the same list?!
And what's with Battle Garegga scoring No.1 every single year?! It's an ok game, but come on now, it's not that great!

Yeah, I know. The R8ZING game that ought to be on the T25 list is DIMAHOO / GMD. The game is way better than BG and BR. Problem is: there are not as many boards laying around--that and it's hard to rack up monster score. Game should be right up there with MARS MATRIX and GIGA WING.

[louisg]

Ahahah! 3 DoDonPachi games on the same list?!
And what's with Battle Garegga scoring No.1 every single year?! It's an ok game, but come on now, it's not that great!

I couldn't agree more with this entire post. Though, nothing says "vertical shooter with lots of shit blowing up" like DoDonPachi. But I don't know what the deal is with BG always winning the top spot. I'd prefer Dimahoo as well (though maybe not for #1-- it gets a little cheap IMO).

But there was a lot that I liked on the list. I'm happy to see Batsugun doing well, and I enjoy most of the games on the list to some degree or another. I'm baffled by Soukyugurentai doing better than RayForce though. And it would be nice to see more horizontal games as well as some more console releases on the list. I guess they've fallen out of favor as the board has leaned more towards manics, but they're great games nonetheless.

I never understood the whole "memorizer" thing. Many bullet hells are just as "memorizors" as old school shmups like r-type or Gradius games.

Ikaruga's on the list. If you want to play to Max Chain, that thing is definitely a "be in the right pixel at the right time" memorize-fest. I don't like playing it that way, and of course it's not mandatory like it is in R-Type, but it definitely has a strong element of that if you want to "play it right".

[Bloodreign]

Not pleased that only 1 Gradius made the top 25, no Paro's, and no Rayforce. But that's the way the forum flows, one year you're top dog, the next something else is, tastes change from year to year, mine surely do (except Gradius Gaiden and Rayforce, hot damn do I love these 2).

[DEL]

Friendly wrote;

And where the hell is Border Down? For shame!

NOW I'm agreeing with you!

Its too rare I guess. Only on the Dreamcast and Naomi arcade. If it was more readily available on different platforms, then it would be back up there.

[Rex Cavalier]

Number of Games Voted For: 404

Number of games was apparently not found.

On related note yay for Hellsinker getting into Honorable Mentions, i kinda wonder what was the score.

[Nifty]

Settle down, I'm double-checking the list right now

EDIT: Okay here's how this works. Platforms are generally only specified if someone did so in their ballot, same with lesser-known versions or namings (accounting for space limitations). I've added in grouped games or better-known titles (e.g. Astro Invader) in some cases where I felt it significant. The columns from left to right are: Position, game, final score (/10), number of votes, and total weighted score.

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     Top 25:

001. Battle Garegga (AC/SAT)                             : 7.152103  59  3.634484
002. Mushihimesama Futari / 1.5 / Black Label (AC/360)   : 6.722258  57  3.306948
003. Ketsui kizuna jigoku tachi                          : 6.109945  55  2.780461
004. DoDonPachi Dai-Ou-Jou Black Label / White Label     : 6.076982  54  2.815092
005. Armed Police Batrider                               : 5.881272  54  2.601701
006. DoDonPachi (AC/SAT)                                 : 5.150329  50  2.087011
007. Batsugun / Batsugun Special (AC/SAT)                : 3.859324  41  1.314523
008. Raiden Fighters Jet                                 : 3.582141  32  1.647450
009. ESPGaluda                                           : 3.528969  34  1.448330
010. Mars Matrix (DC/AC)                                 : 3.430243  31  1.552401
011. Mushihimesama (AC)                                  : 3.390952  33  1.368415
012. Gunbird 2                                           : 3.295199  31  1.405156
013. ESPGaluda II (AC/X360)                              : 3.276364  32  1.314047
014. Radiant Silvergun (AC)                              : 3.202981  29  1.445752
015. Dragon Blaze                                        : 3.135273  30  1.301355
016. Strikers 1945 II (AC/SAT)                           : 3.103812  32  1.125907
017. R-Type (AC)                                         : 3.091799  31  1.183381
018. Ikaruga (360)                                       : 3.083019  27  1.456097
019. Giga Wing (DC)                                      : 2.961078  28  1.252567
020. Battle Bakraid (AC)                                 : 2.872850  26  1.297512
021. Soukyugurentai / Terra Diver (SAT/AC)               : 2.844942  28  1.125939
022. Ibara                                               : 2.841656  26  1.263501
023. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu / 1.5 / Resurrection         : 2.779814  25  1.266644
024. Muchi Muchi Pork! (AC)                              : 2.624816  24  1.168215
025. Gradius Gaiden                                      : 2.515180  23  1.119247


     Honorable Mention:

026. Dangun Feveron                                      : 2.513282  27  0.834888
027. Strikers 1999 / Strikers 1945 III                   : 2.503420  24  1.035851
028. Gradius V (PS2)                                     : 2.489468  21  1.232357
029. Deathsmiles / Mega Black Label (AC)                 : 2.480599  26  0.869824
030. Darius Gaiden                                       : 2.385729  24  0.907528
031. Cho Ren Sha 68K (PC)                                : 2.307840  24  0.822603
032. RayForce/Layer Section/Galactic Attack/Gunlock      : 2.287047  22  0.941076
033. Under Defeat (DC)                                   : 2.237012  23  0.815947
034. Raiden DX (AC)                                      : 2.196485  19  1.054049
035. Pink Sweets ~Ibara Sorekara~ / Arrange              : 2.175284  19  1.030933
036. Crimzon Clover (PC)                                 : 2.159609  22  0.802125
037. Akai Katana / Shin (360/AC)                         : 1.954697  18  0.860989
038. ESP Ra.De.                                          : 1.918414  21  0.609711
039. Imperishable Night [Touhou 8] (PC)                  : 1.916719  19  0.749008
040. Cyvern: The Dragon Weapons                          : 1.913098  19  0.745060
041. Raiden Fighters 2: Operation Hell Dive              : 1.911649  19  0.743480
042. Thunder Force IV / Lightening Force (MD/GEN)        : 1.895399  19  0.725762
043. Hellsinker                                          : 1.826514  16  0.862371
044. Progear no Arashi                                   : 1.780470  18  0.671022
045. Dimahoo / Great Mahou Daisakusen                    : 1.777383  19  0.597083
046. DonPachi (AC/SAT)                                   : 1.770922  15  0.872329
047. Perfect Cherry Blossom [Touhou 7] (PC)              : 1.691430  16  0.715083
048. Undefined Fantastic Object [Touhou 12]              : 1.629158  12  0.929475
049. DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Black Label (AC)             : 1.616304  14  0.774314
050. Guwange                                             : 1.615667  18  0.491330
051. G-Darius (PS2/PSX)                                  : 1.528283  13  0.748913
052. Gradius II: Gofer no Yabou (AC)                     : 1.514425  15  0.592658
053. R-Type Delta (PSX)                                  : 1.454736  13  0.668722
054. Einhänder (PSX)                                     : 1.450152  15  0.522578
055. Fire Shark / Same! Same! Same! (AC/GEN)             : 1.387942  15  0.454748
056. Eschatos                                            : 1.378137  13  0.585203
057. Blazing Star                                        : 1.327172  15  0.388488
058. Thunder Force III (GEN/MD)                          : 1.326412  13  0.528804
059. Recca [Summer Carnival '92]                         : 1.312776  14  0.443364
060. Twin Cobra / Kyukyoku Tiger (AC)                    : 1.261128  12  0.528195



     The Rest:

061. Sexy Parodius                                       : 1.254035  13  0.449888
062. Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate                  : 1.224688  13  0.417890
063. Zero Gunner 2 (DC)                                  : 1.219904  13  0.412674
064. Raiden IV                                           : 1.215415  12  0.478352
065. Hishouzame / Flying Shark / Sky Shark (AC)          : 1.178490  11  0.508664
066. V-V [V-Five] / Grind Stormer                        : 1.109126  12  0.362460
067. Gradius / Nemesis (AC)                              : 1.085378  12  0.336567
068. Blue Wish Resurrection / Plus (PC)                  : 1.073331  11  0.394004
069. Soldier Blade                                       : 1.070318  11  0.390719
070. Zanac Neo                                           : 1.052563  11  0.371360
071. Mountain of Faith [Touhou 10]                       : 1.028904  10  0.416136
072. Salamander 2                                        : 0.988711  11  0.301739
073. Gokujou Parodius                                    : 0.963227  10  0.344525
074. Sengoku Blade                                       : 0.950950  09  0.401711
075. Twinkle Star Sprites                                : 0.945701  09  0.395987
076. Air Gallet / Akuu Gallet                            : 0.935312  10  0.314088
077. Super Aleste / Space Megaforce (SNES)               : 0.927674  09  0.376333
078. Xexex                                               : 0.920691  09  0.368719
079. Tatsujin / Truxton (AC)                             : 0.905090  09  0.351708
080. Varth: Operation Thunderstorm                       : 0.898930  09  0.344991
081. Shikigami no Shiro II                               : 0.880751  10  0.254598
082. Judgement Silversword                               : 0.874847  09  0.318733
083. Giga Wing 2                                         : 0.870234  09  0.313703
084. Border Down                                         : 0.859900  10  0.231862
085. MUSHA Aleste / M.U.S.H.A. (GEN/MD)                  : 0.828753  08  0.339046
086. DoDonPachi Saidaioujou                              : 0.822854  08  0.332615
087. Thunder Force V / Thunder Force V: Perfect System   : 0.807596  09  0.245406
088. Tatsujin Oh / Truxton II                            : 0.796532  09  0.233343
089. R-Type Leo                                          : 0.788750  09  0.224857
090. Out Zone                                            : 0.788335  08  0.294977
091. R-Type II                                           : 0.718224  07  0.289105
092. Kamui                                               : 0.715975  06  0.357225
093. Mystic Square [Touhou 5]                            : 0.714480  07  0.285023
094. Raiden (AC)                                         : 0.709853  08  0.209404
095. Image Fight                                         : 0.701003  07  0.270328
096. Mahou Daisakusen / Sorcer Striker                   : 0.673273  08  0.169520
097. Viper Phase 1 / New Version (AC)                    : 0.664107  08  0.159526
098. Raiden Fighters                                     : 0.664027  07  0.230011
099. Shippu Mahou Daisakusen / Kingdom Grand Prix        : 0.651164  07  0.215986
100. Embodiment of Scarlet Devil [Touhou 6]              : 0.648585  07  0.213174
101. 19XX: The War Against Destiny                       : 0.648301  06  0.283437
102. X-Multiply                                          : 0.624359  07  0.186759
103. Triggerheart Exelica (DC)                           : 0.606006  05  0.307893
104. Subterranean Animism [Touhou 11]                    : 0.600945  06  0.231803
105. Lords of Thunder / Winds of Thunder (PCE CD)        : 0.593924  06  0.224147
106. Axelay                                              : 0.591640  06  0.221656
107. Gradius IV                                          : 0.570522  06  0.198631
108. Gun.Smoke                                           : 0.566860  07  0.124066
109. Radirgy / Radirgy PreciouS                          : 0.566383  06  0.194118
110. Eden's Aegis                                        : 0.562589  06  0.189981
111. Akashicverse -Malicious Wake-                       : 0.561830  05  0.259726
112. Thunder Dragon 2                                    : 0.558834  05  0.256459
113. Metal Black                                         : 0.556329  06  0.183155
114. Deathsmiles II / Deathsmiles IIX                    : 0.549767  05  0.246573
115. Dogyuun                                             : 0.545934  06  0.171822
116. Homura                                              : 0.539680  05  0.235575
117. Harmful Park (PSX)                                  : 0.539656  05  0.235548
118. TwinBee Yahho!                                      : 0.524092  05  0.218578
119. RefleX                                              : 0.517785  05  0.211702
120. Fantasy Zone II: The Tears of Opa-Opa (System 16C)  : 0.516263  05  0.210043
121. Parodius Da! (AC)                                   : 0.511363  05  0.204700
122. Seisou Kouki Strania                                : 0.510776  05  0.204060
123. Gynoug / Wings of Wor                               : 0.496570  05  0.188571
124. Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream [Touhou 3]              : 0.494396  05  0.186200
125. Robotron 2084                                       : 0.486485  05  0.177574
126. Pulstar                                             : 0.485902  05  0.176938
127. Jamestown                                           : 0.471196  05  0.160904
128. Omega Fighter / Omega Fighter Special               : 0.465087  05  0.154243
129. Great Fairy Wars [Touhou 12.8]                      : 0.463721  03  0.293898
130. Thunder Force II (MD)                               : 0.460465  05  0.149203
131. Gate of Thunder (PCE)                               : 0.459079  05  0.147692
132. Lotus Land Story [Touhou 4]                         : 0.442501  04  0.200189
133. Darius II                                           : 0.437873  05  0.124570
134. Psyvariar Revision / Medium Unit                    : 0.437715  04  0.194971
135. Galaga '88 / Galaga '90                             : 0.433862  04  0.190769
136. Aero Fighters 2 / Sonic Wings 2                     : 0.431040  04  0.187692
137. Strikers 1945 (AC/SAT)                              : 0.416278  05  0.101024
138. Hyper Duel (SAT)                                    : 0.416268  04  0.171586
139. Chaos Field                                         : 0.414708  04  0.169885
140. Salamander (AC) / Life Force (non-JP AC)            : 0.412550  05  0.096959
141. Galaga                                              : 0.412161  04  0.167107
142. Last Resort                                         : 0.409066  04  0.163733
143. Flame Zapper Kotsujin                               : 0.406003  04  0.160393
144. R-Type III: The Third Lightning                     : 0.405796  04  0.160168
145. R-Type Final                                        : 0.399614  04  0.153427
146. P-47 Aces                                           : 0.398769  04  0.152506
147. Gaiares                                             : 0.396963  04  0.150536
148. Apidya                                              : 0.396569  04  0.150107
149. Ether Vapor                                         : 0.387437  04  0.140150
150. Super Star Soldier (PCE)                            : 0.378149  04  0.130023
151. Air Buster / Aero Blasters (AC)                     : 0.369962  04  0.121096
152. Raiden II                                           : 0.366135  04  0.116923
153. Hydorah                                             : 0.358481  04  0.108579
154. Sine Mora                                           : 0.349699  04  0.099003
155. DoDonPachi II: Bee Storm                            : 0.346582  04  0.095604
156. The Guardian Legend / Guardic Gaiden                : 0.343516  03  0.162833
157. Ten Desires [Touhou 13] (PC)                        : 0.342291  04  0.090926
158. Zanac (NES) / Zanac Ex (MSX)                        : 0.339043  04  0.087384
159. Daioh                                               : 0.337562  04  0.085769
160. Brave Blade                                         : 0.328322  04  0.075695
161. U.N. Squadron / Area 88 (AC)                        : 0.328178  04  0.075537
162. Warning Forever                                     : 0.324878  04  0.071939
163. In The Hunt (AC)                                    : 0.323805  04  0.070769
164. Raiden III                                          : 0.323521  04  0.070460
165. Gradius III (AC)                                    : 0.321425  03  0.138747
166. Blazing Lazers / Gunhed (PCE)                       : 0.318867  04  0.065385
167. Satazius                                            : 0.311434  03  0.127853
168. Salamander / Life Force (NES/SFC)                   : 0.304103  04  0.049288
169. Darius                                              : 0.300977  03  0.116451
170. Phantasmagoria of Flower View [Touhou 9]            : 0.295837  03  0.110847
171. Cardinal Sins                                       : 0.291782  03  0.106425
172. Shikigami no Shiro III / Castle of Shikigami III    : 0.291763  03  0.106405
173. Space Bomber                                        : 0.290349  03  0.104863
174. Zed Blade                                           : 0.289695  04  0.033578
175. Trizeal                                             : 0.285248  03  0.099302
176. Aero Fighters 3 / Sonic Wings 3                     : 0.281656  03  0.095385
177. Forgotten Worlds / Lost Worlds (AC)                 : 0.280300  03  0.093906
178. Strikers 1945 Plus                                  : 0.278597  03  0.092050
179. Ibara Kuro / Black Label                            : 0.278403  03  0.091838
180. Exed Exes                                           : 0.274806  02  0.158489
181. Gradius III (SNES)                                  : 0.274688  03  0.087787
182. Darius Burst                                        : 0.272271  03  0.085152
183. Rapid Hero                                          : 0.272195  03  0.085069
184. Karous (DC)                                         : 0.269607  03  0.082247
185. Parsec47                                            : 0.267193  03  0.079615
186. Seihou Banshiryuu                                   : 0.265329  03  0.077582
187. RayStorm                                            : 0.262608  03  0.074615
188. Mad Planets                                         : 0.254599  02  0.136455
189. Dragon Breed (AC)                                   : 0.254142  03  0.065385
190. Power Strike II (SMS)                               : 0.252368  03  0.063450
191. Granada                                             : 0.251015  03  0.061975
192. Advanced Busterhawk Gleylancer (MD/GEN)             : 0.248733  03  0.059487
193. 1941: Counter Attack (AC)                           : 0.247578  03  0.058228
194. Eliminate Down                                      : 0.245023  03  0.055442
195. Air Zonk                                            : 0.242329  02  0.123077
195. GwangeDash                                          : 0.242329  02  0.123077
197. Hitogata Happa                                      : 0.236518  03  0.046169
198. Star Force                                          : 0.235411  03  0.044962
199. Shoot the Bullet [Touhou 9.5]                       : 0.234770  03  0.044262
200. Explosive Breaker / Bakuretsu Breaker               : 0.234003  02  0.113999
201. Score Rush / Score Rush MP                          : 0.230637  03  0.039756
202. Fantasy Zone                                        : 0.230271  02  0.109930
203. Nexzr [Summer Carnival '93]                         : 0.228219  02  0.107692
204. Alltynex 2nd                                        : 0.227464  02  0.106869
205. Gun-Nac                                             : 0.225433  03  0.034082
206. Radio Zonde                                         : 0.222575  02  0.101538
206. Shienryu (SAT)                                      : 0.222575  02  0.101538
208. Dragon Spirit                                       : 0.222490  02  0.101446
209. GundeadliGne                                        : 0.219927  02  0.098651
210. Sonic Wings Special (PSX)                           : 0.212602  02  0.090665
211. Blade Buster                                        : 0.210343  02  0.088202
212. Bio-Hazard Battle                                   : 0.209395  02  0.087168
213. ring^-27                                            : 0.207054  02  0.084615
214. Jikkyo Oshaberi Parodius                            : 0.206584  02  0.084103
215. Space Manbow                                        : 0.205013  02  0.082390
216. Vulgus                                              : 0.204352  02  0.081670
217. Fast Striker (DC)                                   : 0.202847  02  0.080028
218. Super Fantasy Zone                                  : 0.202821  02  0.080000
219. Hacha Mecha Fighter                                 : 0.202116  02  0.079231
219. Star Parodier                                       : 0.202116  02  0.079231
221. GunNail                                             : 0.198652  02  0.075455
222. Mamoru-kun wa Norowarete Shimatta!                  : 0.197205  02  0.073877
223. Guxt                                                : 0.194711  02  0.071157
224. Nomltest                                            : 0.194655  02  0.071096
225. Shikigami no Shiro                                  : 0.193650  02  0.070000
226. Halley's Comet                                      : 0.191533  02  0.067692
226. Radirgy Noa / Radirgy Noa Massive                   : 0.191533  02  0.067692
228. rRootage                                            : 0.190828  02  0.066923
229. Vasara                                              : 0.188711  02  0.064615
230. Zen-Ichi                                            : 0.188149  02  0.064002
231. 1943 Kai (PCE)                                      : 0.187728  02  0.063544
232. Sengeki Striker                                     : 0.185298  02  0.060893
233. XOP Black Ultra                                     : 0.183874  02  0.059341
234. Hellfire                                            : 0.182646  02  0.058002
235. Ketsui Death Label                                  : 0.182278  02  0.057601
236. Andro Dunos                                         : 0.181954  02  0.057248
237. Undeadline (MD)                                     : 0.181680  02  0.056949
238. Zaxxon                                              : 0.180245  02  0.055385
239. Mr. Heli no Daibouken                               : 0.179615  02  0.054698
240. Gundemonium Recollection                            : 0.179583  02  0.054663
241. Space Invaders Extreme 2                            : 0.175372  02  0.050071
242. Bullet Soul                                         : 0.174601  02  0.049231
242. Game Tengoku / The Game Paradise                    : 0.174601  02  0.049231
242. Gekirindan (SAT)                                    : 0.174601  02  0.049231
245. G-Stream G2020                                      : 0.170963  02  0.045263
246. RayCrisis                                           : 0.170247  02  0.044483
247. DoTonPachi Maximum                                  : 0.169898  02  0.044103
248. Wyvern Wings                                        : 0.168252  02  0.042308
249. Samidare                                            : 0.168017  02  0.042051
250. Cybattler                                           : 0.165714  02  0.039541
251. Choplifter (SMS)                                    : 0.165688  02  0.039512
252. Twin Cobra II / Kyukyoku Tiger II                   : 0.165430  02  0.039231
253. Sengoku Ace                                         : 0.165389  02  0.039187
254. Omega Five                                          : 0.165369  02  0.039164
255. Vasara 2 (AC)                                       : 0.163762  02  0.037413
256. Side Arms                                           : 0.162471  02  0.036005
257. Mad Shark                                           : 0.159786  02  0.033077
258. Tempest 3000                                        : 0.159349  02  0.032600
259. Majestic Twelve / Space Invaders '91                : 0.157670  02  0.030769
260. Viewpoint (AC)                                      : 0.157480  02  0.030562
261. BioMetal                                            : 0.156082  02  0.029038
262. Rezon                                               : 0.153443  02  0.026161
263. Dangerous Seed                                      : 0.152427  02  0.025053
264. Change Air Blade                                    : 0.144500  02  0.016410
265. Phantasm Romance                                    : 0.142449  01  0.084746
265. Phantasmagoria Trues                                : 0.142449  01  0.084746
267. Tempest                                             : 0.137979  01  0.079872
268. Darius Burst: Another Chronicle                     : 0.135274  01  0.076923
268. Power Strike (SMS)                                  : 0.135274  01  0.076923
270. U.N. Squadron (SNES)                                : 0.132452  01  0.073846
271. DecimationX3                                        : 0.129086  01  0.070175
272. Gratia - Second Earth                               : 0.127735  01  0.068702
273. Exzisus                                             : 0.126808  01  0.067692
273. Vritra                                              : 0.126808  01  0.067692
275. Senko no Ronde Rev.X                                : 0.125463  01  0.066225
276. Master of Weapon (AC)                               : 0.123986  01  0.064615
277. Bosconian                                           : 0.121164  01  0.061538
277. Geometry Wars 2                                     : 0.121164  01  0.061538
279. Carrier Air Wing                                    : 0.118342  01  0.058462
279. Detana!! TwinBee                                    : 0.118342  01  0.058462
281. Magical Chase                                       : 0.115520  01  0.055385
282. Jets'n'Guns                                         : 0.114678  01  0.054466
282. Super R-Type                                        : 0.114678  01  0.054466
284. Xevious Arrangement                                 : 0.113639  01  0.053333
285. La Soeur de Barrage                                 : 0.112995  01  0.052632
285. Radical Radial                                      : 0.112995  01  0.052632
287. Double Spoiler [Touhou 12.5]                        : 0.111359  01  0.050847
288. Break Thru (AC)                                     : 0.109876  01  0.049231
289. Space Giraffe                                       : 0.108677  01  0.047923
290. Last Breakers                                       : 0.107055  01  0.046154
291. Z-Out                                               : 0.104794  01  0.043689
292. Iridion II                                          : 0.104233  01  0.043077
292. Ocean Commander                                     : 0.104233  01  0.043077
294. Söldner-X                                           : 0.102689  01  0.041394
295. Centipede                                           : 0.102416  01  0.041096
295. Cotton Boomerang                                    : 0.102416  01  0.041096
295. Kiki Kaikai: Nazo no Kuro Manto / Pocky & Rocky     : 0.102416  01  0.041096
298. Aero Fighters / Sonic Wings                         : 0.101411  01  0.040000
298. Gradius Rebirth                                     : 0.101411  01  0.040000
298. Sonic Wings Limited                                 : 0.101411  01  0.040000
298. XII Stag                                            : 0.101411  01  0.040000
302. Ordyne                                              : 0.098589  01  0.036923
303. Kosmo Killer / Kamikaze / Astro Invader             : 0.096905  01  0.035088
304. Zero Wing (MD)                                      : 0.095903  01  0.033994
305. Beamrider                                           : 0.095890  01  0.033981
306. Halley Wars (GameGear)                              : 0.095767  01  0.033846
306. Silk Worm                                           : 0.095767  01  0.033846
308. Bangai-O HD                                         : 0.092945  01  0.030769
308. Gunbird                                             : 0.092945  01  0.030769
308. Super Spacefortress Macross II                      : 0.092945  01  0.030769
311. Bangai-O (DC)                                       : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Fire Barrel                                         : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Fixeight                                            : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Lethal Thunder / Thunder Blaster                    : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Noiz2sa                                             : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Storm Blade                                         : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Titanion                                            : 0.092239  01  0.030000
311. Vimana                                              : 0.092239  01  0.030000
319. Burai Fighter                                       : 0.092102  01  0.029851
319. Section Z (AC)                                      : 0.092102  01  0.029851
321. Mystic Riders                                       : 0.091766  01  0.029484
322. Alpha Mission II                                    : 0.090123  01  0.027692
322. Dragon Saber                                        : 0.090123  01  0.027692
322. Grid Seeker                                         : 0.090123  01  0.027692
322. War of Aero                                         : 0.090123  01  0.027692
326. Papilio                                             : 0.089182  01  0.026667
326. Xeno Fighters R                                     : 0.089182  01  0.026667
328. TwinBee                                             : 0.088003  01  0.025381
329. Tumiki Fighters                                     : 0.087653  01  0.025000
330. Battle Mania 2 (GEN)                                : 0.087301  01  0.024615
330. Elemental Master                                    : 0.087301  01  0.024615
330. Last Duel                                           : 0.087301  01  0.024615
330. Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie                         : 0.087301  01  0.024615
330. Rabio Lepus                                         : 0.087301  01  0.024615
330. Smash TV                                            : 0.087301  01  0.024615
336. PatriotDark                                         : 0.086891  01  0.024169
337. Katakis (C64)                                       : 0.085236  01  0.022364
337. Uridium 2                                           : 0.085236  01  0.022364
339. Illvelo                                             : 0.084663  01  0.021739
340. Darwin 4078                                         : 0.084479  01  0.021538
340. Macross Plus                                        : 0.084479  01  0.021538
340. Sky Kid                                             : 0.084479  01  0.021538
340. Syvalion                                            : 0.084479  01  0.021538
344. Otomedius Excellent                                 : 0.082362  01  0.019231
345. Blaze On                                            : 0.082228  01  0.019084
345. Prehistoric Isle 2                                  : 0.082228  01  0.019084
347. Baryon                                              : 0.081657  01  0.018462
347. Solid State Survivor                                : 0.081657  01  0.018462
349. Lunar Rescue                                        : 0.080815  01  0.017544
350. Geometry Wars                                       : 0.080011  01  0.016667
351. Gun Frontier                                        : 0.079206  01  0.015789
352. Crisis Force                                        : 0.078835  01  0.015385
352. Pink Rose Gaiden Touhou                             : 0.078835  01  0.015385
352. Trigon                                              : 0.078835  01  0.015385
352. Trigonometry Wars 4                                 : 0.078835  01  0.015385
356. Dark Fusion                                         : 0.078017  01  0.014493
356. Xecutor                                             : 0.078017  01  0.014493
358. Every Extend                                        : 0.076953  01  0.013333
358. Suguri                                              : 0.076953  01  0.013333
360. Volcabamba                                          : 0.076483  01  0.012821
361. Cho Aniki Zero                                      : 0.076013  01  0.012308
361. Super Spacefortress Macross                         : 0.076013  01  0.012308
363. Juno First                                          : 0.075267  01  0.011494
363. King & Balloon                                      : 0.075267  01  0.011494
363. The End                                             : 0.075267  01  0.011494
366. Nebulas Ray                                         : 0.074915  01  0.011111
366. Tempest 2000                                        : 0.074915  01  0.011111
368. Sol Divide                                          : 0.074716  01  0.010893
369. Demolition Gunner                                   : 0.074379  01  0.010526
370. Commando                                            : 0.074036  01  0.010152
370. Plus Alpha                                          : 0.074036  01  0.010152
372. Lilian Fourhand                                     : 0.073896  01  0.010000
372. Thunder Force AC                                    : 0.073896  01  0.010000
372. Twinkle Tale                                        : 0.073896  01  0.010000
375. Argus                                               : 0.073191  01  0.009231
375. Fighting Hawk                                       : 0.073191  01  0.009231
375. Guardian Force                                      : 0.073191  01  0.009231
375. Trouble Witches Neo!                                : 0.073191  01  0.009231
379. Silpheed (SCD)                                      : 0.072519  01  0.008499
380. Shienryu 2 / Shienryu Explosion (PS2)               : 0.070719  01  0.006536
381. Defender                                            : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Eco Fighters                                        : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Fire and Forget                                     : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Over Horizon                                        : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Space Invaders                                      : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Three Wonders - Chariot                             : 0.070369  01  0.006154
381. Violent Soldier                                     : 0.070369  01  0.006154
388. TURBO FORCE                                         : 0.069092  01  0.004762
389. Super Stardust HD                                   : 0.068991  01  0.004651
390. eXceed 3rd -Jade Penetrate- Black Package           : 0.068628  01  0.004255
391. River Raid (2600)                                   : 0.068252  01  0.003846
392. Pleiads                                             : 0.067943  01  0.003509
393. Ai Cho Aniki                                        : 0.067674  01  0.003215
393. Cho Aniki                                           : 0.067674  01  0.003215
393. Dikembe Mutombo's 4 1/2 Weeks to Save the World     : 0.067674  01  0.003215
393. Mazinger Z                                          : 0.067674  01  0.003215
393. Space Phallus                                       : 0.067674  01  0.003215
398. Battle Squadron                                     : 0.067547  01  0.003077
398. Earth Defense Force                                 : 0.067547  01  0.003077
398. Mortal Skies                                        : 0.067547  01  0.003077
398. Phoenix                                             : 0.067547  01  0.003077
398. Robot Dinosaurs That Shoot Beams When They Roar     : 0.067547  01  0.003077
398. Twin Hawk                                           : 0.067547  01  0.003077
404. Cho Aniki: Kyuukyoku Muteki Ginga Saikyou Otoko     : 0.067504  01  0.003030

Games receiving a single vote: 140
Total games tied for a position: 113
First tie at position 195
Highest number tied for a single position: 8 @ pos 311

[cools]

Proof that Ibara needs a better modern port, or make it back into normal MAME.

[Pyongyang]

Blast Wind didn't even get a single vote!

[KAI]

Exelica>Radirgy? fraud or stupidity?

[nZero]

Exelica>Radirgy? fraud or stupidity?

Harsh truth Now if only those pesky other hundred or so games would get out of the way of both.

[Kollision]

Chaos Field > Radirgy

[ciox]

List looks good, a ton of Cave but a good lot of my favorites are there so I can't complain.
Noticed only one other person voted for Bio-Hazard Battle, shameful.

Chaos Field > Radirgy

[Some-Mist]

And my IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN BUT I STILL WUV YOU Award goes to:

Kingdom Grandprix

me and you both.

Futari is undoubtably higher due to combining ver. 1.5 and black label - at least when comparing to it's ranking in the previous year's lists.

[AntiFritz]

And my IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN BUT I STILL WUV YOU Award goes to:

Kingdom Grandprix

me and you both.

Futari is undoubtably higher due to combining ver. 1.5 and black label - at least when comparing to it's ranking in the previous year's lists.

The same thing happened with daioujou last time. It was a bit further down before they decided to merge them (although their alot more similar then futari 1.5/bl anyway) though.

[MadScientist]

Sorry for the off-topic, but do you mean a click-click-click sound after inserting a disc, before it starts spinning? I have a couple of old optical drives that do this, does anyone know what's causing it? Which part of the drive assembly would need to be replaced to fix it?

I think I read that it happens because the CDs are lighter than DVDs and they slip around in the disk tray. I used the tape trick on games that were making grinding noises or giving disk read errors - it's worked for me so far without any problems;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/ ... eTrick.jpg